Pedal Porn….. you heard me

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On a pedal kick recently and been relatively underwhelmed with many on the over hyped pedals and what they’re costing

Street prices for the clones:
Vemeram Jan Ray - $350
Landgraff Dynamic Overdrive - $800 -$1200
Prince of Tone - $250

The Jan Ray is basically a modded Timmy. Hard to describe, but it’s Timmy with “special sauce”

The PoT is 1/2 of the Analogman King of Tone

The Landgraff of basically a hot rodded 808 with a 3 way switch for asymmetric, LED, and no clipping


I used Japanese Takman REX resistors for signal and REY for power. Mostly Nichicon
Film with some Panasonic caps. Nichicon Gold Audio Grade electrolytic. Burr Brown opamp I’m the Jan Ray, JRC4580D for the PoT and I just put a vintage 83 JRC4558D in the Landgraff clone. I also used vintage MA150 diodes in most build, vintage Hitachi 2SC1815s in the Landgraff. These are really over built, but all premium and maybe $140 but could have done it for maybe $80 with standard parts.




 
I learned the original Timmy with bread board sounds very different from the ones with the switch in the center and later models. My original breadboard Timmy is more compressed, yet open sounding. Years ago I bought a Timmy with the center switch and was really disappointed how shitty it sounded. Wonder if Jan Ray looked at the breadboard version?
 
psychodave said:
I learned the original Timmy with bread board sounds very different from the ones with the switch in the center and later models. My original breadboard Timmy is more compressed, yet open sounding. Years ago I bought a Timmy with the center switch and was really disappointed how shitty it sounded. Wonder if Jan Ray looked at the breadboard version?
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I’m sure. Many people call is a copy. It shares the same topology. There are about 11 component difference. But people still call it a clone and a rip off and complain about the price. They are made in Japan by hand so they’re going to cost more, like everything else in Japan. I A/B’d it with @LPMojoGL ‘s Timmy and they are audibly different. The Jan Ray seems to be a little thicker, tighter and more push. To be fair, it’s not a clone, it’s a modded Timmy.
 
psychodave said:
I learned the original Timmy with bread board sounds very different from the ones with the switch in the center and later models. My original breadboard Timmy is more compressed, yet open sounding. Years ago I bought a Timmy with the center switch and was really disappointed how shitty it sounded. Wonder if Jan Ray looked at the breadboard version?
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I had an old Tim, a couple the purple Timmys, and then a white Timmy with the switch. They all sounded kind of different. The white one, switch set to middle position, is my preference. It could be down to op amp.
 
Timmy work with a jcm800? Running a SD1 currently.
 
Pedals... all the wonderful pedals. Last year alone I probably bought 10. I have to believe I'm all set with OD pedals though. My front of amp board is filled with what has become my favorites for my Marshall JCM800 2204. Right now it's the Carl Martin PlexiRanger I'm having a love affair with. ? ? ? But also includes a VFE DRAGON , Boss SD-1 and a Cusack Screamer V2 (The orange one)...Any one of these can get the job done but I enjoy having them all there for if I feel like changing it up.
 

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Pedals... all the wonderful pedals. Last year alone I probably bought 10. I have to believe I'm all set with OD pedals though. My front of amp board is filled with what has become my favorites for my Marshall JCM800 2204. Right now it's the Carl Martin PlexiRanger I'm having a love affair with. ? ? ? But also includes a VFE DRAGON , Boss SD-1 and a Cusack Screamer V2 (The orange one)...Any one of these can get the job done but I enjoy having them all there for if I feel like changing it up.
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I’m really digging the Landgraff clone in LED mode. It’s got alot more gain on tap than a TS so the clarity and punch of the LEDs and gain are nice.
 
Fret-Shredder said:
Pedals... all the wonderful pedals. Last year alone I probably bought 10. I have to believe I'm all set with OD pedals though. My front of amp board is filled with what has become my favorites for my Marshall JCM800 2204. Right now it's the Carl Martin PlexiRanger I'm having a love affair with. ? ? ? But also includes a VFE DRAGON , Boss SD-1 and a Cusack Screamer V2 (The orange one)...Any one of these can get the job done but I enjoy having them all there for if I feel like changing it up.
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You've got me looking everyday at the ranger...what the difference in the ranger versus the Plexi tone? I got a early silver screamer, sd1 and now?
 
I love overdrives. I also learned that depending on the room I am in, my love for whichever I think is my number 1 changes. In my old house I wasn't crazy about the orange Cusack screamer I had. What's so special about this thing anyway? Yet in my new house, I dig it ! Bonsai is my go to at the moment. Plexi Ranger intrigues me but I don't use the naga vyper treble booster I have now so I wonder if it would be wasted on me.

One thing for sure, you can't go wrong with an SD-1. You just can't. Also, when you circle back to one after years of using more expensive pedals, it still makes you think " did I waste X amount on all these other pedals??!!" ( I have a box full of pedals. Has to be thousands of dollars worth of pedals now. I think that is most of us here though.)

SD-1 and TS-808/9 .. that's Adam & Eve right there!
 
So what’s THE Timmy to get if I were to get one
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
I love overdrives. I also learned that depending on the room I am in, my love for whichever I think is my number 1 changes. In my old house I wasn't crazy about the orange Cusack screamer I had. What's so special about this thing anyway? Yet in my new house, I dig it ! Bonsai is my go to at the moment. Plexi Ranger intrigues me but I don't use the naga vyper treble booster I have now so I wonder if it would be wasted on me.

One thing for sure, you can't go wrong with an SD-1. You just can't. Also, when you circle back to one after years of using more expensive pedals, it still makes you think " did I waste X amount on all these other pedals??!!" ( I have a box full of pedals. Has to be thousands of dollars worth of pedals now. I think that is most of us here though.)

SD-1 and TS-808/9 .. that's Adam & Eve right there!
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I find myself coming back to pedals I used to hate. I think a big part of that was not having a great pedal platform before. Since I picked up my 64 Vibroverb, it’s been like seeing pedals in a new light. The Landgraff circuit is like the the best of all of those variants. It’s got the smoother buffer of the 808, asymmetric clipping of the SD1 but can go much cleaner and much higher gain and capable of pushing an amp much harder.
 
psychodave said:
I learned the original Timmy with bread board sounds very different from the ones with the switch in the center and later models. My original breadboard Timmy is more compressed, yet open sounding. Years ago I bought a Timmy with the center switch and was really disappointed how shitty it sounded. Wonder if Jan Ray looked at the breadboard version?
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The latest version Timmy I bought a couple years ago was shitty sounding. A muddy mess. I've never had the pleasure of having a "real" one.
 
Jeff Hilligan said:
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Good choice. Can’t beat that price for hand wired. I have one. I wanted multiple for different setting, LoL. Here’s the gut shot of the DCW
 

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