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I’ve recently had a great time cycling several Amp in a Box pedals through my collection of gear. I have an old, single channel solid state practice amp behind the sofa in the living room that I use every day for chops / scales stuff. Just about everything I have tried sounds ‘good’ through that little amp - a couple have sounded really good. For more serious playing, I feed my AIB pedals through my old reliable 73 non-master Marshall. I have posted about that head before - it has a super warm, dark, almost Federish clean tone that really works well with AIB stuff. I’ve never played another Marshall that sounds quite like it. Up until now, the 2 very best sounding AIB pedals that I have found are the Pinnacle Deluxe and the BE OD deluxe.

A few weeks back, I scored a Suhr Eclips from a fellow forum member. I had tried one at the local music story and thought it sounded ‘OK‘ but also thought I could find better sounds through one with my own gear. Through my silly little solid state pracky amp, it sounds decent, but not as good as the Pinnacle or the BE pedal. But - feeding the Marshall is a totally different thing. The Eclipse is now no. 1 on my depth chart. It is SO dynamic and ‘touch sensitive’ through the Marshall. I’m sure that‘s because I’m winding the Marshall up enough to get the power tubes working and to get a bit of speaker compression from the 20 watt GBs In my 4x12. Back to back, the BE sounds noticeably more compressed and almost ‘fizzy’ compared to the Eclipse. Of course, you can dial some of that out of the BE - and its still a killer sounding pedal - but definitely more modern sounding. The Eclipse just sounds so dam good through the Marshall. Even with the gain all the way up on the pedal (which is more than you need for a gorgeous lead tone) you can still get beautiful ‘edge of breakup’ cleans with the volume knob on the guitar. That’s a really hard trick to accomplish with a solid state AIB pedal. But the Eclipse nails it in spades.

My takeaway is this: if you have a so-so amp to work with, you want an AIB pedal that does more on the front end - like the BE. (That’s why I love the BE feeding that silly little solid state pracky amp I keep in the living room) The better sounding amp you have to work with, the less you want going on in front of it. So a pedal with less gain and compression like the Suhr really lets a good sounding clean amp shine.

Anyway - that‘s what I’ve got today. Grab an Eclipse - feed a loud, clean tube amp pushing 4 of your favorite speakers and have a great weekend!
 
Always thought the Eclipse is one of the better ones.. this is a cool comparison. Of course it is going through the power section of said amp which goes to your point about these preamps feeding tubes.

 
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I'm not a big fan of amp in a box pedals, but if I had to pick one I had and liked most, it would be the Bogner Blue.
 
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I'm not a big fan of amp in a box pedals, but if I had to pick one I had and liked most, it would be the Bogner Blue.
Haven’t tried any of the Bogner pedals yet, but most who praise them really dig the blue. I had a 6L6 Ecstasy that I (foolishly) sold a while back. Killer amp. Loved the Blue channel with various mild boosts out front.
 
Sansamp GT-2 into a ss power amp into a cab of choice. That worked well for me for many years
 
If you like the Suhr stuff, you'll love Lawrence Petross for MIAB stuff.

It's more "amp like" in its response and feel, with similar sound quality.
 
Cool post. I dig these pedals. I also have a 4 holer I used in this way. I got a Bassman and pretty much use that now for this type of rig. Have u tried a Suhr Riot? Really good pedal. Love my Pussy Melter, Triple Wreck and the old Marshall Shredmaster. I need tobtry a Friedman BE.
 
If you like the Suhr stuff, you'll love Lawrence Petross for MIAB stuff.

It's more "amp like" in its response and feel, with similar sound quality.
The LPD Eighty 7 is pretty much the only distortion pedal left on my radar.
 
The LPD Eighty 7 is pretty much the only distortion pedal left on my radar.

Everything Lawrence makes is phenomenal, eighty 7 included

The sixty 8, seventy 4, and eighty 7 are all absolutely fantastic
 
I've tried some nice pedals that I borrowed from a forum member, into my 72 Supertremolo. They all sounded cool; but none matched the tone I get from stacking an OD1X and a cheap Joyo Ultimate Drive. Quiet, saturated and tight sounding, a very clear gain not unlike a Wizard when pushed. But I've been curious about pedals like the ones you mention. Might have to give one a spin.
One thing to mention; I have to have my 86 SD1 in the chain, off, to get my tone. If I remove it the signal becomes too 'overwhelming' and it doesn't sound as good....no amount of re dialing the pedals will solve it. SD1 stays.
 
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