4104 vs Phil X, SLO, Mezzabarba Mzero, Roccaforte C80, Splawn QR

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Had all of these at my house a couple of times. Someone on TGP asked me how they compared. Thought I'd share what I wrote. @scottosan @Junk Yard Dog and @Shredsmcgee might have more or varying input.

"JCM did the Marshall thing, sounded great with an SD1 pushing it. Rowdy and raw, fun.
The rest have more gain = no boost required, and effects loops that are handy for post gain delay, and using an eq pedal for tone shaping and overall volume control.

Phil X, more refined, best master volume. Reminds me of Zakk NRFTW or Dokken BFTA tone on the hi gain setting, can sound more JMPish on lower settings, without the bloated bass and skreechy highs.

SLO, more modern voicing, decent cleans on clean channel, JCMish crunch channel, all the smooth singing gain you want on the od channel, effects loop volume super handy. Gorgeous.

Mezza, like an upgraded SLO with Marshall EL34 power section, meatier mids, bigger lows, negative feedback knob to adjust overall feel and brightness, more versatile with ability to boost clean and crunch channels giving 5 sounds instead of 3, more gain on the crunch channel would be enough for many folks, OD channel rips. Versatile, punchy, mean Beast. Would like to side by side it with a Wizard MTL.

Rocca C80, this one is modded by @scottosan (who also makes ToneNerd pickups, best handwired pups for the $, check em em out). I believe it is a Jose mod with 5 way diode switch, metro effects loop, 3 way bright switch that's kind of Bogner XTC like in that it changes gain, punch knob with pull bass boost...the best feeling modded Marshall for my playing style. Scott won't sell it to me, so I've been looking for another one to mod. They've doubled in price the past couple years ( like everything). I wouldn't like it near as much stock.

Splawn QR, another beast, different levels of gain cover a big range, broad mids that will always be heard in a mix, huge bang for buck on used market. Hangs right there with the other amps, but we preferred the clarity of the SLO, punch of the Mezza and tight responsive saturation of the Rocca.

Emplexador, played in the amp room at GC for 15 minutes. GC Arlington TX has it for $1700. I'd much rather have the Splawn."

Adding, we also compared the Friedman 2x12 and Bogner OS2X12. The Friedman sounds good, a bit bigger and more modern than the Bogner. Kind of in between a Mesa Recto cab and the Bogner. Probably closest to the 4x12s. The Bogner sounded maybe more vintage. I won't be flipping my Bogner to get a Friedman, but if I were shopping for one right now, I'd go with the best deal.
 
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"Splawn QR, another beast, different levels of gain cover a big range, broad mids that will always be heard in a mix, huge bang for buck on used market. Hangs right there with the other amps, but we preferred the clarity of the SLO, punch of the Mezza and tight responsive saturation of the Rocca."

I cannot compare it to the others, but I have had two and you are spot on. My Splawns never got buried in a mix.
 
Wow, all sound killer! I think the Rocca is #1 for me..then 4104 then Mezza. But, Any/all are great sounding rigs. Can't go wrong with any of them.
 
DUDE! they all sound pretty freaking good. I think that may have something to do with your pickups too. :cool:

1. Rocca
2. Mezza
3. Splawn
4. Marshall
 
SLO, more modern voicing, decent cleans on clean channel, JCMish crunch channel, all the smooth singing gain you want on the od channel, effects loop volume super handy. Gorgeous.

Mezza, like an upgraded SLO with Marshall EL34 power section, meatier mids, bigger lows, negative feedback knob to adjust overall feel and brightness, more versatile with ability to boost clean and crunch channels giving 5 sounds instead of 3, more gain on the crunch channel would be enough for many folks, OD channel rips. Versatile, punchy, mean Beast. Would like to side by side it with a Wizard MTL.

Two amps enter, one amp leaves...which one is the winner..SLO or Mzero?

I'm wondering if you'd say Mzero...since you describe as an upgraded SLO
 
Great write up. All the amps are killer. I’d be happy with any of them at home and on stage.

Note: When we played the Splawn you’re hearing in those clips., it was on half power by accident, so I could tell it was sounding slightly different from when I played it at home right before.

It would be hard to pick one bc they are different enough.
 
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Two amps enter, one amp leaves...which one is the winner..SLO or Mzero?

I'm wondering if you'd say Mzero...since you describe as an upgraded SLO
It’s a tough call. We debated it after we were done yesterday. I’d be happy with either.

MZero has a bit more flexibility. I don’t find it darker, rather; the mids sit differently. Both cut and can get plenty bright. Im not good at articulating the differences between the two that I hear. The Drive channel on the MZero has slightly more gain on tap.

I said yesterday I really would be ecstatic to have either the SLO or MZero.

MZero more modern for sure, SLO is “that” sound.

Scott’s Rocca is on par with both. Equally as awesome to play.
 
"Splawn QR, another beast, different levels of gain cover a big range, broad mids that will always be heard in a mix, huge bang for buck on used market. Hangs right there with the other amps, but we preferred the clarity of the SLO, punch of the Mezza and tight responsive saturation of the Rocca."

I cannot compare it to the others, but I have had two and you are spot on. My Splawns never got buried in a mix.
No question. I Gigged a Pro Stock for years ago. Went to Friedman. Then back to Splawn with fully loaded Comp, which I preferred that over the JJ100 I was gigging with before, and I loved that JJ100.
 
I love that roccaforte

Mezzabarba mzero sounds killer too

Marshall sounds good, but I would use something besides an sd1

The splawn is really not my thing at all
 
I love that roccaforte

Mezzabarba mzero sounds killer too

Marshall sounds good, but I would use something besides an sd1

The splawn is really not my thing at all
That Splawn is pretty tight. Need to shoot out with the X. I have the Rocca for a while. Wanna know how I feel about it. Like a kid on Christmas. First thing this morning:

Two amps enter, one amp leaves...which one is the winner..SLO or Mzero?

I'm wondering if you'd say Mzero...since you describe as an upgraded SLO

Tough choice that could go either way. I'm pretty attached to the SLO, so difficult to be objective.

SLO a bit smoother sweeter, Mezza way more versatile, meatier and has a clank in the mids that growls when you dig in. Can dial them in close, but the Mezza can do more.

If I didnt have the SLO...I'd go nuts if you put both in front of me and had my pick for same price. Wish the SLO had a negative fb knob, and the Mezza had an effects loop volume.

I say.....
Scottaforte
 
That Splawn is pretty tight. Need to shoot out with the X. I have the Rocca for a while. Wanna know how I feel about it. Like a kid on Christmas. First thing this morning:



Tough choice that could go either way. I'm pretty attached to the SLO, so difficult to be objective.

SLO a bit smoother sweeter, Mezza way more versatile, meatier and has a clank in the mids that growls when you dig in. Can dial them in close, but the Mezza can do more.

If I didnt have the SLO...I'd go nuts if you put both in front of me and had my pick for same price. Wish the SLO had a negative fb knob, and the Mezza had an effects loop volume.

I say.....
Scottaforte

Agree with all this …and the Scottaforte.
 
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