VFE pedal run

[ClintN667]

VFE has a run of pedals coming out this month. I was commenting on how much I liked the Standout earlier this week so I wanted to see what they went for these days (I paid a good bit for mine a few years ago and sold it for a loss). I have regretted it a bit so I was thinking of replacing it. So I've ordered the pinball pedal which from the description does the Standout thing too.

I haven't tried any of their other pedals and but I haven't really found a need for any other pedals except maybe some sort of eq thanks to watching all the shit Lambchopper does.

 

[cardinal]

I think the new Empress EQ has similar functionality (plus a lot more). You can set the knee frequency of high and low shelf filters and their respective gain/attenuation. And then boost the remaining midrange. But you can also sweep the mid frequency and adjust the Q. The Empress doesn't have a dry blend though.

But of course none of the features matter if it doesn't sound good. Presumably the Empress does. The old model was popular.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Pinball is a cool pedal. Much more controllable than the old Dod tilt pedal I'd been using for years..
Also have the VFE Pale Horse (TS), White Horse (comp), and Fiery Red Horse (Muff).
Each is an absolutely great evolution of a classic effect.
All are well built and great sounding.
I love Peter's stuff.

 

[napalmdeath]

I like the Dragon. I absolutely hated the Standout. I don't know if I got a dud, or what, but it was a muddy mess. Dave raves about them, as does others, my experience was much like the V2 Timmy. Mud City.

 

[itsgoodnow]

I have a dragon and a standout. I enjoy both, just for different applications. As Cardinal pointed out the empress EQ is fantastic (and one of my all time favorite pedals). The Dragon and Standout are a bit more set it and forget it and you don't have to go through the effort of finding your frequency curves (which is simpler but more limiting).

 

[LPMojoGL]

I like the Dragon. I absolutely hated the Standout. I don't know if I got a dud, or what, but it was a muddy mess. Dave raves about them, as does others, my experience was much like the V2 Timmy. Mud City.

Something not right there.
Have had the Timmy V2 for years, had the Standout. Neither muddy.

The Timmy is a superb pedal, clear, loud and transparent as you like, a great mid boost, and standalone overdrive. One of the guys offered to buy it off me the other day when we had all the amps here. It was hitting the amps just right.

 

[MetalHeadMike]

Something not right there.
Have had the Timmy V2 for years, had the Standout. Neither muddy.

The Timmy is a superb pedal, clear, loud and transparent as you like, a great mid boost, and standalone overdrive. One of the guys offered to buy it off me the other day when we had all the amps here. It was hitting the amps just right.

I've read several say the newer Timmy is mud but mine is clear, articulate, sounds great...not sure version but I bought it new in 2018. Also have a Standout with is no where near mud. Might not be quite my thing, but it can be tight as hell if set that way.

 

[harddriver]

I like my first run Standout but that EQ from Hell that Lambchopper demo'd sounds pretty killer if you are looking for a parametric as similar to a Furman PQ3 out there near as I can tell.

I preferred the Standout to my Empress Para EQ but it didn't suck by any means, it was a killer pedal with great features with that extra DB boost on top of the EQ'd boost, just killer IMHO. I use the Standout into my Splawn modded Marshall to tighten it up into a modern Dime kinda sound and it does exactly that for me.

 

[RaceU4her]

I bought my standout after all the hype and it was the biggest waste of money I’ve spent on gear ever. I’m not even sure wtf it does

 

[errrrrl]

I bought my standout after all the hype and it was the biggest waste of money I’ve spent on gear ever. I’m not even sure wtf it does

Dude, you have to adjust the hype trim pot thats located inside the pedal. Previous owner may have set it to mediocre ?

I have a few VFE pedals, Standout v1, v2, Dragon and a Pinball. I prefer v1 standout over v2.

 

[RaceU4her]

Dude, you have to adjust the hype trim pot thats located inside the pedal. Previous owner may have set it to mediocre ?

I have a few VFE pedals, Standout v1, v2, Dragon and a Pinball. I prefer v1 standout over v2.

I tried that. i made a thread a while back asking what was up with it cause i honestly thought it was broke, i guess v1 is supposed to be better from what i read, mines actually a henning one so its definitely v2. i guess ill give it one last try

 

[eclecticsynergy]

I like the Dragon. I absolutely hated the Standout. I don't know if I got a dud, or what, but it was a muddy mess. Dave raves about them, as does others, my experience was much like the V2 Timmy. Mud City.

Mid boost might sweeten one amp yet be too much for another that's mid-heavy. Same applies to drive pedals too, of course.
I've swapped ODs on my boards depending on which amp - and which guitars - I'll be using.

As with any aspect of tone, one man's meat is another's poison.

 

[LPMojoGL]

I've read several say the newer Timmy is mud but mine is clear, articulate, sounds great...not sure version but I bought it new in 2018. Also have a Standout with is no where near mud. Might not be quite my thing, but it can be tight as hell if set that way.

Haven't heard a new Timmy. V2 has the 3 way switch and the tone knobs work backwards. I have the new Tim, nothing muddy about it. I think it mat be sharper than the Timmy.

 

[psychodave]

Absolutely nothing muddy about the standout. Sure it can be set to sound like crap...like every other pedal made. lol

 

[Wayniac3]

Absolutely nothing muddy about the standout. Sure it can be set to sound like crap...like every other pedal made. lol

Stock Marshall sounds like that? Great tone & those pedals sound great.
Was that riff Helloween, BTW?

 

[psychodave]

Stock Marshall sounds like that? Great tone & those pedals sound great.
Was that riff Helloween, BTW?

That Marshall is bone stock. Nothing done to it at all. Yeah, that was Helloween. lol

 

[napalmdeath]

Absolutely nothing muddy about the standout. Sure it can be set to sound like crap...like every other pedal made. lol

I don't know.. I sold the Standout right here, and the buyer also hated it. We must be boneheads, or maybe it was a certain version/revision or something.. Kinda like the Airis Savage Drive. Each "revision" after V3 made it worse and worse.

As for the Timmy, I can't be certain it was a V2, but it was horrible.

 

[DanTravis62]

I don't know.. I sold the Standout right here, and the buyer also hated it. We must be boneheads, or maybe it was a certain version/revision or something.. Kinda like the Airis Savage Drive. Each "revision" after V3 made it worse and worse.

As for the Timmy, I can't be certain it was a V2, but it was horrible.

There was probably something wrong with it, because Timmy's are by nature INCREDIBLY clear and "hi fi" sounding, by design

Like, that's literally the appeal of the Timmy - its the clang of the high mids - sounds much more organic and clear than an sd1, 808, or klon

I can't even imagine how a stock Timmy could sound muddy? Tone on zero, gain on 10, stacked with another drive into an amp with already too much gain?

It honestly sounds like yours had something wrong with it

 

[Kordoba]

Absolutely nothing muddy about the standout. Sure it can be set to sound like crap...like every other pedal made. lol

Are you using a variac or brown box?

 

[ClintN667]

I used the Standout with a Splawn Nitro and a KSR Orthos. I really enjoyed it with both. I sold it cause I was finding myself using the deadweald Duality most of the time. Not sure which version I had. To me it was killer but I think any pedal you should lower your expectations if it's hyped. No pedal is worth 4-500 IMHO unless it's something like a preamp or multi effect.

I also enjoyed the friedman buxom boost with the splawn Amps I had. Just worked great but I didn't dig it with the Orthos. The Savage drive was a big let down as well.

I'm really trying to streamline my pedals and then use midi after getting the atla and the h90. I'm waiting on a Duality dx midi pedal then once that is here pedals like the VFE, Rat, etc will just be on another pedal board for occasional use.