Confirmed: Maxine has graphene in her vaccine

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It's all fun and games till the truth slowly comes out ?

EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZED !
Except none of your 'truth' regarding anything vax related has been proven. You simply post links to bullshit fake news conspiratarded sites. Only takes a few minutes to see what these clowns do.
Take a legit heading, from a legit COVID virus study, and change the wording to include VACCINE.
Then, repost.
Pretty obvious.
 
I've determined that all vaccines are bad. People pull the polio card, but look into it and it's full of holes. Tetanus for example was already decreasing thanks to better wound care. So it's kind of like covid. Claim there is a huge problem among the medical mainstream and media, offer a solution, and stack that paper for yourself and the other big pharma dope dealers. It's all graft.
I'm ok with vaccines in general. I think the theory of why they are helpful is sound and that as a whole they have done far greater good than bad, especially in children. Tetanus is one of the ones I make sure I keep up on. I work around rust, filth and shit everyday so for me, it's worth a sore arm one afternoon every 10 years. The flu I can take or leave. It may change as I get older, but I just really don't get sick. Everyone in my house is sick as all get out today, between my wife and my kids one of them has been sick everyday for like 2 weeks, yet I haven't even had a sniffle. It's not in the cards for me to ever have a day off in bed lol.
 
Like what fake news?
The fake news that includes, for instance, a study that 'might' suggest something, but hasn't been replicated yet. See, in real science, you have to have a REPEATABLE study and then the medical community will recognize whatever conclusions are drawn.
 
There are different reported rates of adverse event reports per lot, the analysis has been done. It's also known that the mrna needs to be stored at proper temp. I do agree it's good to read the studies, not simply sensationalistic headlines. My point was that it's intentional to not investigate these matters conclusively when there is so much suggestive evidence.
What analysis? Pray tell?
 
It's all fun and games till the truth slowly comes out ?

EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZED !
I think it's still pretty early to get butthurt over the "emergency use", because a PANDEMIC is literally a world wide health emergency. It's about the best possible case for "emergency authorization". They don't happen very often and it's a pretty big deal when the do.

If you are convinced it was all a plan, then I guess there isn't really much to discuss, but I think it is very plausible that this vaccine became available as quick as it did because SARS is not new, they've been working on various SARS vaccines for quite some time now. Sure the actual testing period was brief, but the manufacturing period makes sense to me.
 
The fake news that includes, for instance, a study that 'might' suggest something, but hasn't been replicated yet. See, in real science, you have to have a REPEATABLE study and then the medical community will recognize whatever conclusions are drawn.
Just because a study hasn't been replicated, or peer-reviewed for that matter, doesn't mean the finding is "Fake news." How much significance one attributes to the finding is debatable, sure, and replication obviously bolsters a finding. And it could be the study was poorly designed, fraudulent, etc.
 
Just because a study hasn't been replicated, or peer-reviewed for that matter, doesn't mean the finding is "Fake news." How much significance one gives to the finding is debatable, sure. And it could be the study was poorly designed, fraudulent, etc.
Right; maybe fake news is too strong but the anti vax crowd just latches on to anything and everything, without actually checking into
A. What does the study say
B. Has it been replicated
C. Who did the study?
Sometimes, studies that are linked here lead to nowhere. Like, no website/organization of that name. Not in this thread, but others.

But, in this thread we have someone quoting a study by the U of Madison, that suggests carditis related to the vaccine.
Except, when you look at the actual study, it's not at all related to the vaccine, but Covid itself.
Pretty obvious then, that anything posted by "Igor" is going to be straight up bullshit.
 
But, in this thread we have someone quoting a study by the U of Madison, that suggests carditis related to the vaccine.
Except, when you look at the actual study, it's not at all related to the vaccine, but Covid itself.
I posted the Igor Chudov link. What are you talking about exactly?
 
Right; maybe fake news is too strong but the anti vax crowd just latches on to anything and everything, without actually checking into
A. What does the study say
B. Has it been replicated
C. Who did the study?
Sometimes, studies that are linked here lead to nowhere. Like, no website/organization of that name. Not in this thread, but others.

But, in this thread we have someone quoting a study by the U of Madison, that suggests carditis related to the vaccine.
Except, when you look at the actual study, it's not at all related to the vaccine, but Covid itself.
Pretty obvious then, that anything posted by "Igor" is going to be straight up bullshit.

In this is what is so upsetting. It goes against the very nature of scientific discovery. This dude clearly went in to his “research” trying to link myocarditis to covid/vaccine. That is not the way to do it. Scientist may have hopes for results, but they do not base their research and tests on getting a desired result. And if they do get the desired result, they do everything they can to essentially, prove themselves wrong. That is the only way to empirically prove anything.
 
In this is what is so upsetting. It goes against the very nature of scientific discovery. This dude clearly went in to his “research” trying to link myocarditis to covid/vaccine. That is not the way to do it. Scientist may have hopes for results, but they do not base their research and tests on getting a desired result. And if they do get the desired result, they do everything they can to essentially, prove themselves wrong. That is the only way to empirically prove anything.
Where are you guys talking about? The potential for myocarditis is established and acknowledged by the CDC.
 
Pretty obvious then, that anything posted by "Igor" is going to be straight up bullshit.
Did you not see this?
It's linked in the first sentence of the article: https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.230743 They measured 18F-FDG uptake and found it was higher across the board in the vaccinated cohort. The significance is debatable perhaps, but at the very least it shows the heart is being affected. However, this paper concludes: Focal myocardial 18F-FDG uptake seen on oncologic PET/CT indicates a significantly increased risk for multiple myocardial abnormalities.
 
I posted the Igor Chudov link. What are you talking about exactly?
My mistake, this is the actual study Igor mentions.....

https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.232244

Couple points of interest; as I read this....

"Unfortunately, in routine clinical practice, 18F FDG PET/CT is a terrible tracer with which to evaluate myocardial inflammation. This is because glucose is the normal source of energy for the myocardium—almost all patients have high myocardial uptake. Typical disease processes of interest (infection or inflammatory disease) also result in high myocardial uptake. Routine PET/CT cannot help to reliably identify higher activity due to inflammation on an already high background of normal myocardium. Special steps need to be taken."

This is in reference to the other study, from a Japanese physician. Also...

"The main results are asymptomatic patients vaccinated for COVID-19 before PET had about 40% greater radiotracer activity in the myocardium than unvaccinated individuals. The P value was low, less than .001. This translates to only one time out of 1000 that these results would occur by chance.

These results are compelling, but we should remain suspicious without further analysis. There are simply too many things that can still go wrong with this comparison. Patients with cancer who get vaccinated tend to be older and perhaps at greater risk for being immunocompromised or needing chemotherapy. We do not know the full characteristics of vaccinated versus unvaccinated patients (including the course and nature of chemotherapy treatments). Prior studies showed that younger male individuals had more reports of vaccine-related myocarditis after their second dose of vaccine. Standardized uptake values are quantitative and useful, but metabolic derangements might also cause the same differences. In short, other differences besides vaccination could be responsible for differences between the two patient groups."

In summary he states:

"The investigators understood their first result was only the starting point. They next performed extensive sensitivity analyses (ie, looking at the same data from multiple different directions). What if we account for age differences between groups and the number of vaccinations? If mRNA vaccinations do cause asymptomatic myocardial inflammation, wouldn’t the effect be more likely shortly after vaccination rather than 6 months later? Many of us who had COVID-19 vaccines had flulike symptoms immediately after vaccination—perhaps those of us with common flulike reactions would have more myocardial inflammation as well? Could trained readers identify the differences visually? Or were the differences seen only after placing regions of interest on the heart that could be accidentally mispositioned? The list goes on. Great researchers are also skeptics—they need to prove the results to themselves.

Notably, the authors’ interrogation of their results held up to all these secondary ways of looking at their data. The authors were careful to conclude that in a subset of patients undergoing PET/CT and with low glucose levels and fasting, myocardial activity was greater in patients who received an mRNA vaccine than in those who did not. Greater myocardial activity after administration of an mRNA vaccine was present regardless of sex, age, or type of mRNA vaccine. Unfortunately, no myocardial enzyme analysis was available, and cardiac function was not available. In addition, the authors did not scrutinize the oncologic histories and treatments of their patient groups. Finally, in retrospective studies, there are always unknown factors that may lead to bias. Some patients get vaccinated, and some do not. In a retrospective study, we do not know if the reason individuals were vaccinated and had a PET/CT scan shortly thereafter has caused bias, potentially causing spurious results. The results are intriguing but unfortunately incomplete.

Vaccine manufacturers are aware of the adverse effects of mRNA vaccines. These adverse effects lead to vaccine hesitancy. The study results by Nakahara et al suggest that mild asymptomatic myocardial inflammation could be more common than we ever expected. This in turn would support a hypothesis of more severe systemic inflammation related to mRNA vaccination in some patients who present with symptomatic myocarditis. Fortunately, even with symptomatic myocarditis, most patients experience resolution of their symptoms within several days, most without permanent sequelae (6). The next steps may involve manipulation of the mRNA vaccine or delivery system in an effort to reduce these adverse events."

It's a lot, and feel free to read the whole article but the bottom line for Dr Bloemke is we just don't know enough yet, and if someone does get Myocarditis as a result of the vaccine most times it will be minor and resolve quickly without permanent damage.
 
the bottom line for Dr Bloemke is we just don't know enough yet
Fine, but that's been the point for many of us — all the while people's livelihoods, ability to participate in society, travel, etc.was conditioned on taking it. And THEY'RE STILL PUSHING IT!
 
Ivermectin works in some cases. Last time we had it I got a bottle. Wound up giving it to a buddy whose elderly parents got it they followed the dosage directions and both cases were super mild. I assume you’re talking about the iv treatment….the one that Biden summarily ordered a unilateral stop to because reasons….and since when will they not provide the president preferential treatment? He’s the president. Doesn’t matter who is in office. As far as every man for himself, when has it ever been any other way?
Why should he?... because he carried on about bullshit unscientific cures and then had to be bailed out by the medical profession by using something no-one except him could get. So what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander so to speak. Should have let him choke for promoting lies. Also have you ever heard of leading by example. Let him take his horse medicine and let him drop dead.
 
Community COVID-19 Respiratory Illness is Not Associated with Myopericarditis

Joy et al performed a detailed prospective cohort study with troponin and multimodality cardiac imaging in healthcare workers who contracted COVID-19 and no evidence of heart damage was found.[ii] Yet, messaging persisted in the medical community that “COVID-19 causes more myocarditis than the vaccines.”[iii] This was based on flawed inpatient studies of acute severe COVID-19 where troponin levels are commonly elevated due to critical illness without adjudicated myocarditis.
 
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