Friedman 100 Head with the least amount of upper mids?

  • Thread starter Thread starter thedimwitt
  • Start date Start date
Aynirar27 said:
I’m in the “try some other spreakers first” camp as well. I’ve always found the BE to be lacking high mids and cut. I’ve felt the same about Creambacks too so maybe try them lol.

Have you tried living with the tone knob on your guitar down a little?
Click to expand...
This. Creambacks sound great, and really warm up a bright amp. But, I've found Friedmans to have an extremely responsive EQ, so I found that dialing out excessive high end was never an issue.
 
For speakers I’d try Redbacks, Alnico Creams or Creambacks. If you can afford it ‘60’s Alnico Blues are in top tier territory and very silky sounding, but very rare. The recent blues aren’t great imo
 
I appreciate all the replies and suggestions. I will try speakers and see what happens!
Thanks!
 
I agree with speaker change. Going to assume you guys are talking about the m65 creamback as a warmer speaker option? I have a quad of h75's here in a 1960 cab and they have plenty of bite. The warmest speakers I have here are the Avatar Fane m65s.

thedimwitt said:
I'm looking for the Friedman Head with the least amount of upper mids, if I'm describing it correctly or the least amount of ear fatigue. I had the BE100 Deluxe and I couldn't seem to dial out the ear fatigue. I have lots of treble in my hands, as a friend noticed, so I need a really warm/ dark amp.
Click to expand...
I only have experience with the Smallbox, BE and Twin Sister/Dirty Shirley and I own the last two now. I listed those from brightest to warmest. I hear the JJ is a darker amp. My 'warmest' amps are a Mark III and an Orange OR50.
 
I didn’t think Friedmans had a raw high end, like a Marshall. I thought they were more smooth, like an Egnater. Scooping the high mids would basically neuter the tone

I stay away from those type of amps now because you can’t dial in bite.
 
I have the BE100 Deluxe and it sounds great with Alnico Creambacks and the 65 Watt Creambacks.
 
If you want to try 65s, stay away from the Marshall labelled 3120s as they are much brighter than the early 80s versions. A cheaper way to try that tone out would be the WGS ET65....pretty good clone of a darker 65. They just wilt a little at super high volume.
 
Could try a EQ pedal in the loop or out front. Could be a small slider bump from glory.
 
Having owned the newer Creamback M65 and still owning a few G12-65's, the latter are definitely smoother and need proper volume to truly shine.
I found the Creamback to have more mid crunch and they sound a tad more stiff.
 
braintheory said:
I find vs most amps almost all the Friedman models besides the JEL are pretty smooth and dark leaning. If the BE100 Deluxe is still too much, the only other models I found darker were the BE’s made before 2016 and the SS model. If those don’t work for you either maybe check out a Bogner XTC 101B

Maybe darker, smoother sounding speakers can help too with getting what you want like the Redbacks. The SS I tried was also modded, so maybe a stock SS would differ in darkness. I found Friedman’s to be less fatiguing than most other amps. That always seemed like what they were going for imo
Click to expand...


This is the friedman i would and almost got before i got the mgl. This thing is right up my alley
 
Smashedguitaris⸸ said:


This is the friedman i would and almost got before i got the mgl. This thing is right up my alley
Click to expand...

I tried Dirty Shirley's many times. There are some good things about them, but have played other amps in a similar ballpark that I'd consider a lot better, although also more expensive. They still also IME had the overall Friedman sound and feel
 
DanTravis62 said:
Some people have "bright" hands/technique that influence what amps they like - I have "low midrange" sounding hands/technique, so I prefer brighter amps

But it's definitely a technique thing that influences tone and amp choice

One person's hands/style may be the difference between "present in the mix" and "obnoxious"

I've never gotten along with rectos for this reason - my technique already accentuates the low mids and rectos have a TON of it, so when I play them it sounds like crap
Click to expand...
One thing I’ll add is people really underrate what kind of pick they use making a huge difference. There’s producers out there who legit make guitar players use certain picks because of the difference it makes in a mix. Like BIG metal producers. Typically sharper picks are brighter.
 
Bram576 said:
One thing I’ll add is people really underrate what kind of pick they use making a huge difference. There’s producers out there who legit make guitar players use certain picks because of the difference it makes in a mix. Like BIG metal producers. Typically sharper picks are brighter.
Click to expand...
So true. I use a .77 pick and it’s definitely brighter, plinky sounding. If I go to a 1.0 or thicker pick its definitely a fatter tone.
 
Bram576 said:
One thing I’ll add is people really underrate what kind of pick they use making a huge difference. There’s producers out there who legit make guitar players use certain picks because of the difference it makes in a mix. Like BIG metal producers. Typically sharper picks are brighter.
Click to expand...

This is actually why I use jazz III xls for leads

my normal pick technique (trailing edge upward pickslanting) is very smooth and round sounding, and I use Dunlop nylon 1.0s, which are fairly dark, so that's why I gravitate towards bright sounding gear, to compensate

But sometimes it's not enough

Especially with digital gear, which seems to remove high end information sometimes
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top