Terrorist Attack At The Crocus Concert Hall In Moscow

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So innocent Ukrainians haven’t been killed ?
Of course they have. And I don’t condone it. I oppose war on principle because of this. The thing you guys are missing is that what Russia is doing is no different than what the US does. You don’t think innocent civilians died in Iraq? What did Iraq even do to the US anyways? Russia’s invasion of Ukraine appears eminently more justifiable than most, if not all of the US’s many wars of aggression.
 
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Of course they have. And I don’t condone it. I oppose war on principle because of this. The thing you guys are missing is that what Russia is doing is no different than what the US does. You don’t think innocent civilians died in Iraq? What did Iraq even do to the US anyways? Russia’s invasion of Ukraine appears eminently more justifiable than most, if not all of the US’s many wars of aggression.
I was just reading an article this morning about how the CIA went after Bob Marley because he supported a socialist candidate for Jamaica instead of the US backed one. Let's not forget our "support our troops" who taught torture techniques to other foreign shitbags down at the school of the Americas.

Our government is a wolf masquerading as a sheep. A two faced beast whose days have been numbered. The Lord will avenge those who she has wronged from the coal miners, to the jews, to people from any number of nations whose will was subverted by the wicked pedophiles running this place.

They are ALL gonna get what is coming to them and no crony, no pile of cash, none of their "brothers" or anyone else will be able to protect them. They will be naked and ashamed and quivering in fear. I keep my arms strong for that day because perhaps the Lord will need volunteers to help toss them into the pits of hell since it seems quite apparent they aren't interested in changing their ways and I have had my fill, twenty years ago!!!
 
So I guess you believe that it's ok for an Imperialist Russia to do whatever they want? Just because Russia is a 'sovereign nation' that it is fine when they bomb another country, on a made up bullshit premise, where the reality is Putin wants a 'do over' regarding the fall of the USSR?

I got news for all you American citizens on this forum.....if we don't continue to help Ukraine fight off Russia by arming them, war will come to us FAR FASTER than if we sit here and ignore it. It's only a matter of time. This current situation reminds me of what I learned about the years prior to Pearl Harbor. The attitude in the USA was 'stay out of it! Not our business!!' by a large percentage of people. Yet, what did that get us?
Attacked in 1941. History always repeats itself, and if we 'stay out of it' ie stop helping Ukraine then it is simply a matter of time before we are attacked.
This is what disgusts me about a portion of the Republiclown party...a small number of them want to derail the aid we give Ukraine. For the first time ever, a political party (or a small portion of) supports a murderous Russian dictator.
I understand the attitude of the VATNIKS on this forum, that's why they joined since they for the most part don't ever post SHIT about gear. But US citizens? All of you need to take a history class/Geopolitics so you can really understand what's going on, and what's at stake.
You don't want your kids fighting in Europe? Grandkids? Then suck it up buttercup and support arming Ukraine now.
Or else, I'm afraid you'll realize "I told you so" and it'll be far too late.
For the record, I cant stand Russia or Ukraine, Putin should be taken out as soon as the Russian people can make it happen. Having said that, I think a lot of the Americans having problems with us helping Ukraine has more to do with the fact that billions of dollars we sent them for military aid has been put into private accounts and spent on personal enrichment items rather than its intended purpose, and they keep asking for more no matter what because we have not put any stipulations of accountability into place. They are even asking us to fund their entire economy and infrastructure rebuilding effort with no regard to specifics whatsoever.
The information regarding the spending of war funding on personal items and bank accounts from high-ups in the Ukrainian regime is readily available, and also that Ukraine took part in the whole trump/russia collusion hoax when asked to by the current crop of liars that are in office just to give it some street cred, but luckily it was proven to be a hoax. All of it. And of course nobody on the Ukraine end stepped up and said so because the people giving them funding are the very ones who made the whole thing up in the first place.
So half the country has a very bitter taste in their mouth regarding the whole scenario, it doesn't really mean they support that shithead Putin or even like the asshole. I seriously doubt anyone in here gives a shit about Russia.. Those who think we should continue to help fund Ukraine's war effort should at least be sensible enough to demand accountability by the people giving billions of our tax dollars to them...
Just my 2 cents... ;)
 
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The Ukrainians should not have started shelling residential neighborhoods in Donbas and Luhansk. They did it for years before Russia retaliated.

Don't start a fight if you're not prepared for the response.
Was that before or after the “annexation” of Crimea ?
 
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For the record, I cant stand Russia or Ukraine, Putin should be taken out as soon as the Russian people can make it happen. Having said that, I think a lot of the Americans having problems with us helping Ukraine has more to do with the fact that billions of dollars we sent them for military aid has been put into private accounts and spent on personal enrichment items rather than its intended purpose, and they keep asking for more no matter what because we have not put any stipulations of accountability into place. They are even asking us to fund their entire economy and infrastructure rebuilding effort with no regard to specifics whatsoever.
The information regarding the spending of war funding on personal items and bank accounts from high-ups in the Ukrainian regime is readily available, and also that Ukraine took part in the whole trump/russia collusion hoax when asked to by the current crop of liars that are in office just to give it some street cred, but luckily it was proven to be a hoax. All of it. And of course nobody on the Ukraine end stepped up and said so because the people giving them funding are the very ones who made the whole thing up in the first place.
So half the country has a very bitter taste in their mouth regarding the whole scenario, it doesn't really mean they support that shithead Putin or even like the asshole. I seriously doubt anyone in here gives a shit about Russia.. Those who think we should continue to help fund Ukraine's war effort should at least be sensible enough to demand accountability by the people giving billions of our tax dollars to them...
Just my 2 cents... ;)
You didn't read his post. He says it's worth billions to arm Ukraine otherwise your kids will have to fight and die. You need to be more fearful.
 
Putin should be taken out as soon as the Russian people can make it happen.
Do you have any idea how popular he is there? It’s painful to hear so many people spout off based entirely on western propaganda, and then claim anything contrary is Russian propaganda.
 
Do you have any idea how popular he is there? It’s painful to hear so many people spout off based entirely on western propaganda, and then claim anything contrary is Russian propaganda.
His clutch play was restoring orthodoxy, since it is far and away the biggest denomination and is an inseparable part of Russian history. He has poured many many millions into restoring churches and monasteries there. Valaam, for starters.
 
Do you have any idea how popular he is there? It’s painful to hear so many people spout off based entirely on western propaganda, and then claim anything contrary is Russian propaganda.
Understanding is also necessary when watching very limited news from Russia. His public appearances are attended by pro-Putin crowds that are extremely vetted.
And in spite of that, brave people still demonstrate against him and protest his policies at risk of being imprisoned.
We can only guess what the results would be if elections were legit, but I’m thinking he wouldn’t get 85%.
 
That’s one of his policies we could definitely use here.
Democrats and most of the Republicans could take a lesson from him on pretty much every issue. Borders, patriotism, religion, preserving nuclear families. He's more American than most of the democrat party.
 
Understanding is also necessary when watching very limited news from Russia. His public appearances are attended by pro-Putin crowds that are extremely vetted.
And in spite of that, brave people still demonstrate against him and protest his policies at risk of being imprisoned.
We can only guess what the results would be if elections were legit, but I’m thinking he wouldn’t get 85%.
You don’t think appearances are vetted here too? I think one of the reasons so many here fear him is because he truly is popular, same with, or at least used to be with Trump. I have never seen any credible data that suggests the elections there were rigged like they were here. But sure, some people there don’t like them, and they probably have less freedom to speak out against him than we do here.
 
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Looks like a typical Jihadist zipperhead. Just be glad he's in Russia and not your city. The Rooskies know what to do with that.


https://www.aol.com/news/russia-mourns-concert-hall-attack-084305997.html
 
You don’t think appearances are vetted here too? I think one of the reasons so many here fear him is because he truly is popular, same with, or at least used to be with Trump. I have never seen any credible data that suggests the elections there were rigged like they were here. But sure, some people there don’t like them, and they probably have less freedom to speak out against him than we do here.
And you call others a clown ??? ??????
 
You don’t think appearances are vetted here too? I think one of the reasons so many here fear him is because he truly is popular, same with, or at least used to be with Trump. I have never seen any credible data that suggests the elections there were rigged like they were here. But sure, some people there don’t like them, and they probably have less freedom to speak out against him than we do here.
That’s putting it lightly.
I find myself in the conservative camp much more so than liberal here but have strong feelings either way and cannot support Putin. He kills his rivals, or sends them off to Siberia to suffer before dying. I truly believe that if he conquers Ukraine, the baltics will be next until the old USSR is complete. And a true comparison? Gorbechov or Yeltsin and how they managed to maintain a “democracy” for their years in office. Maybe involved in payola (especially Yeltsin) but the population had the freedom to demonstrate or air their opposing views without the threat of arrest or imprisonment.
Putin wrested democracy away and is now a dictator with unlimited powers.
 
And you call others a clown ??? ??????
Yeah but you're just saying the word "clown." I have substantiated over and over, from a geopolitical and rational perspective why @Racerxrated is a clown. Unlike @Racerxrated , If you think I'm wrong and provide sufficient evidence to back up your views, I'll change my mind, or at least respect how you've come to your conclusions. There is more to geopolitical analysis than US vs THEM, GOOD GUY vs BAD GUY name calling.
 
That’s putting it lightly.
I find myself in the conservative camp much more so than liberal here but have strong feelings either way and cannot support Putin. He kills his rivals, or sends them off to Siberia to suffer before dying. I truly believe that if he conquers Ukraine, the baltics will be next until the old USSR is complete. And a true comparison? Gorbechov or Yeltsin and how they managed to maintain a “democracy” for their years in office. Maybe involved in payola (especially Yeltsin) but the population had the freedom to demonstrate or air their opposing views without the threat of arrest or imprisonment.
Putin wrested democracy away and is now a dictator with unlimited powers.
I never said I supported Putin. It's just idiots here on this board that think if you don't hate him and think he's "Hitler" then you support him. And for that matter, I don't think it's unreasonable to support him, I don't though. But what leads you to believe:
  1. He kills his rivals or Navalny
  2. If he conquerers Ukraine (Which Russia will), then they will go for the Baltics in order to recreate the USSR
  3. That Putin is an unelected dictator with unlimited power
 
Yeah but you're just saying the word "clown." I have substantiated over and over, from a geopolitical and rational perspective why @Racerxrated is a clown. Unlike @Racerxrated , If you think I'm wrong and provide sufficient evidence to back up your views, I'll change my mind, or at least respect how you've come to your conclusions. There is more to geopolitical analysis than US vs THEM, GOOD GUY vs BAD GUY name calling.
Oh ok Bobo
 
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