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acceptance said:
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I understand there is video after video of him saying he supports them. But when push comes to shove he stabbed them in the back, so all those video's just prove what a lying POS he is. Anybody can be onboard when it's easy. Its when its not easy that it really matters and he has failed miserably. And it was purely for political reasons. What did everyone think was gonna happen when they attacked Israel? Israel is smart enough to have learned the hard way you cannot reason with these ass clowns, you have to kill them or they will kill you at their first opportunity. They have proven this a hundred times over, yet people just cannot seem to connect the dots. When it comes to doing the right thing, you do it before anyone ask's you. If you wait till they ask you, you waited too long and it counts far less.
Surely you don't believe a word that comes out of that idiots mouth, do you? When he gave that speech 2 days earlier about his "unwavering" support for Israel, he already knew they would be announcing they would cut off needed offensive weapons if they went into Raffa, so that was also a lie. Every foreign policy decision he has ever made has been wrong for the past 40 years.
I realize none of this will change your mind, we will have to agree to disagree. The Palestinians have already stated a hundred times that their attack on them on the 7th will happen 10 thousand more times, and that they themselves will never accept a 2 state solution. The only solution they will accept is to kill every last Jew. They have stated this a hundred times over. If you were an Israeli, what would you do that the Israeli's have not already done? They have no choice
 
Thumbpicker said:
I'm just glad you said "couldn't care less" instead of that stupid American "could care less" bullshit they get completely wrong which doesn't even make sense.

You are dead right about their craziness affecting us though. Pisses me off. They go off the rails and it infects us all. Yet apparently we can't say anything about because it has nothing to do with us. That's the biggest lie of all. Of course it affects us.
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I could care less…?
 
JTyson said:
The only solution they will accept is to kill every last Jew. They have stated this a hundred times over. If you were an Israeli, what would you do that the Israeli's have not already done? They have no choice
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First, I'm not saying that Biden is a diehard Israel supporter for some principled or virtuous reason. I agree that it is politically expedient and even required as I previously alluded to. But not sending weapons which could criminally implicate him personally is hardy "Stabbing Israel in the back." And to the above, it's simply not true, at least for the vast majority of Palestinians. Jews have coexisted among Arabs for millenia. It wasn't toxic until the state of Israel was formed and the arabs living in then Palestine were run off, persecuted, occupied and oppressed. You have it backwards — the genocide, the ethnic cleansing, has been perpetrated by the Jews towards the Palestinians, not the other way around. I believe the Palestinians could have been politically satisfied some time ago but that would probably mean the end of the Jewish ethno-state, not the end of the Jews themselves. Unfortunately, anglo-zionist propaganda has totally warped the average onlookers view of this matter.
 
acceptance said:
Unfortunately, anglo-zionist propaganda has totally warped the average onlookers view of this matter.
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including yourself.
The Palestinians chose to put a terrorist group funded and armed by the Iranians into control of their situation. Nobody that wants to co-exist peacefully would have done that. If you don't think they have openly said that, you should look further.
Again, we will have to agree to disagree. I'm never gonna change your mind and your not gonna change mine. It is what it is..
 
JTyson said:
If you don't think they have openly said that, you should look further
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I don’t challenge that this sort of thing has ever been articulated, I just don’t think that it is some kind of widely held, foundational and motivating view among Muslims worldwide. If you have evidence otherwise I’m interested to see it.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Almost true. The senators are the bitch of banks who are really pulling the strings.
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Solid point ?

Floyd Eye said:
supporting civilian disarmament and dangerously believing there is zero need for you to retain the ability to defend yourself against a tyrannical government or be in charge of your own personal destinies.
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We don’t need armed civilians here and don’t want guns.
I have zero issue with the USA’s 2A, even though the NRA and senators warped its meaning to generate millions in membership and license fees, but prioritising the giving of everyone comparatively unfettered access to weapons over mental health support means everyone needs guns in the USA against their fellow citizen. What a way to divide a nation.

Also you can own handguns and assault rifles galore and even a 3rd World government can neutralise you with drones, missiles and chem weapons. Guns are pea shooters in comparison and designed to extend an illusion of safety and freedom.
 
jdel77 said:
Solid point ?



We don’t need armed civilians here and don’t want guns.
I have zero issue with the USA’s 2A, even though the NRA and senators warped its meaning to generate millions in membership and license fees, but prioritising the giving of everyone comparatively unfettered access to weapons over mental health support means everyone needs guns in the USA against their fellow citizen. What a way to divide a nation.

Also you can own handguns and assault rifles galore and even a 3rd World government can neutralise you with drones, missiles and chem weapons. Guns are pea shooters in comparison and designed to extend an illusion of safety and freedom.
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You missed the concept of the 2A brother.
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As far as an invasion from another country the Japanese knew that wasn’t feasible in the 1930’s…because of the 2A….
 
jdel77 said:
Solid point ?



We don’t need armed civilians here and don’t want guns.
I have zero issue with the USA’s 2A, even though the NRA and senators warped its meaning to generate millions in membership and license fees, but prioritising the giving of everyone comparatively unfettered access to weapons over mental health support means everyone needs guns in the USA against their fellow citizen. What a way to divide a nation.

Also you can own handguns and assault rifles galore and even a 3rd World government can neutralise you with drones, missiles and chem weapons. Guns are pea shooters in comparison and designed to extend an illusion of safety and freedom.
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Actually, like the senators and politicians, you here in this very thread have warped the meaning of the 2A. Not that I expect you to actually understand the meaning or to have done the research to understand the meaning. If you cared to actually look instead of parroting what other morons tell you, you'd realize that anything the government can own, we should be able to own. THAT is the actual point of the 2A.

Also, 2.5 million times a year someone defends themselves in this country with a firearm. I'm sure they don't think it's an illusion.
 
I will also point out while it is true that you and TP don't want guns, there are a great many of your countrymen who don't feel the way you do. I know because I have talked to them. Then you add in the fact that when your overlords decided to disarm you after the Port Arthur thing ( or whatever it was) they mandated that everyone turn over their guns. As of right now there is something like a 30% compliance rate. That means 70% of those people clearly wanted their guns. Wanted them enough to presumably bury them somewhere your benevolent rulers couldn't get their fascist paws on them.
 
Seems to me you've already been invaded. How did your guns stop it?
 
Thumbpicker said:
Seems to me you've already been invaded. How did your guns stop it?
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No more than you’ve been invaded. What, you thought tens of thousands of armed citizens would go down to the border and start shooting Mexicans ?
 
Floyd Eye said:
No more than you’ve been invaded.
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Yes but did your guns help you?
Floyd Eye said:
What, you thought tens of thousands of armed citizens would go down to the border and start shooting Mexicans ?
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Why not? It's an invasion. Can you just invade a country if you do it without arms? Apparently you can. Absurd. Do you shoot unarmed looters? Why not shoot an invader?
 
Floyd Eye said:
If it affects you it’s only because your government allows it to. You’re on the entire other side of the god damn planet. If you don’t want to be affected by the most powerful political force in the global community then stay out of the global community. Simple.

We are not affected by Australian politics because what you do pretty much only matters to you.
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And we have 1/13 of your population, and social problems.

Floyd Eye said:
I will also point out while it is true that you and TP don't want guns, there are a great many of your countrymen who don't feel the way you do. I know because I have talked to them. Then you add in the fact that when your overlords decided to disarm you after the Port Arthur thing ( or whatever it was) they mandated that everyone turn over their guns. As of right now there is something like a 30% compliance rate. That means 70% of those people clearly wanted their guns. Wanted them enough to presumably bury them somewhere your benevolent rulers couldn't get their fascist paws on them.
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Mate, if they wanted to keep them so bad after Port Arthur there would’ve been a major shitshow about it. Protests, refusals, arrests. But common sense prevailed.

I grew up with guns as my old man culled and hunted invasive species through New Zealand’s state forests. It was normal to see shotguns, .308’s, .303’s etc… being disassembled and cleaned in the house and on top of learning to load and shoot from a young age I was also taught exactly what guns are and are not.

I’m pro gun but don’t want them as I’m even more pro-keeping guns away from lunatics who will shoot up schools. But pro-gun Americans will always prioritise their legal rights over their responsibilities to keeping others safe, so fuck ‘em, right?

The 2A was clearly written in the context for citizens to stand WITH their government AGAINST revolution, internal or external. Again, no amount of Matrix-level weaponry would last 15 minutes against a coordinated and concerted Government strike. It’d be like trying to fight a nuke with a cigarette lighter, something more Americans need to wake up to. Your government spends $780 BILLION per year of your taxes on defense, more than the next 10 countries combined!

You reckon you and your handguns are a government check or threat? That’s funny as hell. Your government could reduce your entire state to a smoking ruin before you or anyone else had their hand out of their pants and were reaching for their AR. You wouldn’t even be aware until you saw the light coming through your walls.
 
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jdel77 said:
And we have 1/13 of your population, and social problems.



Mate, if they wanted to keep them so bad after Port Arthur there would’ve been a major shitshow about it. Protests, refusals, arrests. But common sense prevailed.

I grew up with guns as my old man culled and hunted invasive species through New Zealand’s state forests. It was normal to see shotguns, .308’s, .303’s etc… being disassembled and cleaned in the house and on top of learning to load and shoot from a young age I was also taught exactly what guns are and are not.

I’m pro gun but don’t want them as I’m even more pro-keeping guns away from lunatics who will shoot up schools. But pro-gun Americans will always prioritise their legal rights over their responsibilities to keeping others safe, so fuck ‘em, right?

The 2A was clearly written in the context for citizens to stand WITH their government AGAINST revolution, internal or external. Again, no amount of Matrix-level weaponry would last 15 minutes against a coordinated and concerted Government strike. It’d be like trying to fight a nuke with a cigarette lighter, something more Americans need to wake up to. Your government spends $780 BILLION per year of your taxes on defense, more than the next 10 countries combined!

You reckon you and your handguns are a government check or threat? That’s funny as hell. Your government could reduce your entire state to a smoking ruin before you or anyone else had their hand out of their pants and were reaching for their AR. You wouldn’t even be aware until you saw the light coming through your walls.
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Clearly you don't know jack shit about American history.
 
Thumbpicker said:
Yes but did your guns help you?

Why not? It's an invasion. Can you just invade a country if you do it without arms? Apparently you can. Absurd. Do you shoot unarmed looters? Why not shoot an invader?
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Did my car help me ? No. Guess we better get rid of cars. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't shoot any unarmed person unless there were extreme circumstances.
 
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