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Aynirar27 said:
Extremely. It’s a hypothetical scenario with no real data that I know of to back it up, which I know is kind of your bread and butter lol, but yes it’s an outlier
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I don’t know if there’s data or not. I am confident it’s happened though. But “Believe all women!” (Unless Joe Biden or Bill Clinton raped them).
 
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acceptance said:
I don’t know if there’s data or not. I am confident it’s happened though. But “Believe all women!” (Unless Joe Biden or Bill Clinton raped them).
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Not sure what that has to do anything, but sure why not. Did you forget about the Clinton trial though? Most people do so that they can make the Trump trials out to be a witch hunt.
 
Aynirar27 said:
Extremely. It’s a hypothetical scenario with no real data that I know of to back it up, which I know is kind of your bread and butter lol, but yes it’s an outlier
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There is theoretical physics and applied physics. Thought experiments are still important.
 
Aynirar27 said:
Not sure what that has to do anything, but sure why not. Did you forget about the Clinton trial though? Most people do so that they can make the Trump trials out to be a witch hunt.
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What trial?
 
Aynirar27 said:
men can make the same case though. Rape goes both ways. Since you like statistics, around 3% of men have reported to have been raped. Thats like 1 in 30, so you probably know one. Plus over 3/4 of reported cases stated the female as the perpetrator. Given societal standards, I reckon most incidences do not even go reported.
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well not surprising given the levels of soy in many young men today (I recall a study of several 20 something men who had less testosterone than a group of 70 year olds). 3% isn't much tho. There are also false claims of rape as well.

Doesn't change the fact that in 95%+ instances of intercourse between men and women are consensual; and that women control access to consensual sex. :thumbsup:
 
rsm said:
Doesn't change the fact that in 95%+ instances of intercourse between men and women are consensual; and that women control access to consensual sex. :thumbsup:
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It doesn’t make that true either
 
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rsm said:
95%+ is sufficient proof for most of us who believe women have agency.
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Feel free to prove me wrong, but if a 20 year old study of a small population that concluded that rape is a serious issue, is your reasoning for women being in the driver’s seat, then I suppose there isn’t much else to say
 
Aynirar27 said:
Feel free to prove me wrong, but if a 20 year old study of a small population that concluded that rape is a serious issue, is your reasoning for women being in the driver’s seat, then I suppose there isn’t much else to say
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you keep talking rape; I'm talking about consensual sex between a man and woman; where the woman controls access to sex; and decides who she lets inside her, how she allows it, and what birth control she uses or none at all resulting in the woman having more responsibility for any outcome of intercourse. Same point I've been making for a few pages now, that you disagree with.

edit: and the study I posted (5% of pregnancies are a result of rape; 1 in 20 = 5%) was from January, 2024; not 20 years ago; you may want to go back and check that out, maybe read it?
 
rsm said:
you keep talking rape; I'm talking about consensual sex between a man and woman; where the woman controls access to sex; and decides who she lets inside her, how she allows it, and what birth control she uses or none at all resulting in the woman having more responsibility for any outcome of intercourse. Same point I've been making for a few pages now, that you disagree with.
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Thats because your interpretation of the data goes against the actual conclusion of the actual study
 
Aynirar27 said:
Thats because your interpretation of the data goes against the actual conclusion of the actual study
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not the study I posted. 1 in 20 pregnancies (5%) are due to rape; that means 95%+ are consensual; and women control access to consensual sex.

95%+ makes it obvious that women control the factors that can lead to pregnancy: who they allow inside, if they take birth control, and if they require a condom or not... pretty basic; again, if you believe women have agency.
 
rsm said:
not the study I posted. 1 in 20 pregnancies (5%) are due to rape; that means 95%+ are consensual; and women control access to consensual sex.

95%+ makes it obvious that women control the factors that can lead to pregnancy: who they allow inside, if they take birth control, and if they require a condom or not... pretty basic; again, if you believe women have agency.
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Which goes against the study

. CONCLUSIONS:Rape-related pregnancy occurs with significant frequency. It is a cause of many unwanted pregnancies and is closely linked with family and domestic violence. As we address the epidemic of unintended pregnancies in the United States, greater attention and effort should be aimed at preventing and identifying unwanted pregnancies that result from sexual victimization.
 
Aynirar27 said:
Which goes against the study

. CONCLUSIONS:Rape-related pregnancy occurs with significant frequency. It is a cause of many unwanted pregnancies and is closely linked with family and domestic violence. As we address the epidemic of unintended pregnancies in the United States, greater attention and effort should be aimed at preventing and identifying unwanted pregnancies that result from sexual victimization.
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which study? 5% of rapes result in pregnancy (1 in 20) is hardly significant percentage. At 20%+ you'd have a point regarding significant, but that is still less than half of all rapes; that means 95%+ of all rapes don't result in pregnancy. Maths is simple
 
rsm said:
which study? 5% of rapes result in pregnancy (1 in 20) is hardly significant percentage. At 20%+ you'd have a point regarding significant, but that is still less than half of all rapes; that means 95%+ of all rapes don't result in pregnancy. Maths is simple
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I think 5% is significant but I also think in reality it’s probably a fraction of that. Still not good though.
 
acceptance said:
I think 5% is significant but I also think in reality it’s probably a fraction of that. Still not good though.
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5% vs 95% isn't significant. If we split $1M, you can take 5%, and I'll take 95%; who gets the significant amount, you or me?
 
rsm said:
5% vs 95% isn't significant. If we split $1M, you can take 5%, and I'll take 95%; who gets the significant amount, you or me?
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A 5% miscarriage of justice may not be significant as a statistic but it's certainly overwhelmingly significant to the person that cops the consequences of it. The miscarriage of justice is 100% to them as an individual.
 
rsm said:
5% vs 95% isn't significant. If we split $1M, you can take 5%, and I'll take 95%; who gets the significant amount, you or me?
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Significant = meaningful or notable and it is relative. So for me 50k is significant. In the case of millions of rapes, yeah, I think it’s significant. On the other hand, we can fortunately say the overwhelming majority of pregnancies arise from consensual sex.
 
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