MSNBC's Rick Santelli finally figures out globalist slave labor cheap goods is bad for American workers and economy.....

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The only person that seems confused here is Rick Santelli. He seems to completely miss the point that globalism is deflationary and allows the average Amercian worker to afford things like an 80" flat screen TV for $400, shoes for < $50, everyday appliances for <$30 and so on. Not everybody has an AmEx Black Card that they can drop on the counter at checkout.
 
JackTripper said:
The only person that seems confused here is Rick Santelli. He seems to completely miss the point that globalism is deflationary and allows the average Amercian worker to afford things like an 80" flat screen TV for $400, shoes for < $50, everyday appliances for <$30 and so on. Not everybody has an AmEx Black Card that they can drop on the counter at checkout.
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You don't understand that demographic of people that can afford 80" flat screen TVs and $400 dollar shoes is shrinking as a result of free trade globalism. What happens when no one can afford these things?
 
Laputan Machine said:
You don't understand that demographic of people that can afford 80" flat screen TVs and $400 dollar shoes is shrinking as a result of free trade globalism. What happens when no one can afford these things?
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No, it's not shrinking, it's called Walmart, the largest retailer in the world. That's where they shop.

Once you reshore all of those products at labor costs 8x, then who will be able to afford $3,200 TVs, $200 shoes, and $200 coffee makers?
 
JackTripper said:
No, it's not shrinking, it's called Walmart, the largest retailer in the world. That's where they shop.

Once you reshore all of those products at labor costs 8x, then who will be able to afford $3,200 TVs, $200 shoes, and $200 coffee makers?
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Maybe people will start to appreciate, take care of, and be more selective about what they buy instead of mass consuming and treating everything like throwaway trash built off of the backs of what might as well be slaves.
 
I'm pretty sure most that could go back in time and then given a decision again between cheap shit from China and other parts of the world vs good paying jobs with a decent wage to afford a house and car would pick good paying jobs for a house and car vs being able to afford cheap shit from China on Amazon Prime.......


All day, everyday and that is a part of what people voted for in 2025.
 
The~Kid said:
I'm pretty sure most that could go back in time and then given a decision again between cheap shit from China and other parts of the world vs good paying jobs with a decent wage to afford a house and car would pick good paying jobs for a house and car vs being able to afford cheap shit from China on Amazon Prime.......


All day, everyday and that is a part of what people voted for in 2025.
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JackTripper said:
The only person that seems confused here is Rick Santelli. He seems to completely miss the point that globalism is deflationary and allows the average Amercian worker to afford things like an 80" flat screen TV for $400, shoes for < $50, everyday appliances for <$30 and so on. Not everybody has an AmEx Black Card that they can drop on the counter at checkout.
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It seems you missed his point. If you had good paying jobs that had wages that indexed with inflation with a healthy job market instead of a 100% financialized economy that only benefits the upper 10% and 1% who own 90% of stocks..... the cost of American made goods would be a non issue.

When American wages are deflating against inflation and Americans no longer have good paying jobs, healthcare or a pension plan because all the corporations are using slave labor in China and other countries so those TV's , Shoes and Walmart Costco goods are cheaper. That's so the dollar that's been devalued isn't as obvious while in the process of printing DEBT out of thin air because the GDP doesn't cover what the politicians steal and hand out all over the world(USAID anyone), this is bankrupting the USA.... The US doesn't have a revenue problem, the USA has a SPENDING PROBLEM and overall this does have a deleterious effect on the average American life. When your country doesn't make steel, aluminum, or other support industries because the corporations have chose pure profit that is a national security issue. But these same corporations still want access the American market with no tariff penalty for moving their manufacturing overseas where labor and environmental cost are nil... meanwhile every foreign country in the world tariffs US products that we still do manufacture.

In the 60's 70's and 80's people could afford a life, a family and all the trappings of the so called American dream on one good salary with benefits and a penison to retire on.....

The Elites are forcing serfdom on the masses............That is the so called Great Reset where there is no middle class just wealthy elite and the poor.
 
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Maybe people will start to appreciate, take care of, and be more selective about what they buy instead of mass consuming and treating everything like throwaway trash built off of the backs of what might as well be slaves.
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I buy USA made at every chance that arises, it's not cheap, but I can afford it. Not everyone can and I wouldn't make the assumption that everyone can or should.
 
harddriver said:
When American wages are deflating against inflation and Americans no longer have good paying jobs, healthcare or a pension plan because all the corporations are using slave labor in China and other countries so those TV's , Shoes and Walmart Costco goods are cheaper. That's so the dollar that's been devalued isn't as obvious while in the process of printing DEBT out of thin air because the GDP doesn't cover what the politicians steal and hand out all over the world(USAID anyone), this is bankrupting the USA.... The US doesn't have a revenue problem, the USA has a SPENDING PROBLEM and overall this does have a deleterious effect on the average American life. When your country doesn't make steel, aluminum, or other support industries because the corporations have chose pure profit that is a national security issue. But these same corporations still want access the American market with no tariff penalty for moving their manufacturing overseas where labor and environmental cost are nil... meanwhile every foreign country in the world tariffs US products that we still do manufacture.
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Elites, slave labor? That's kind of funny. I'm remember a billionaire once stating, in reference to cheap foreign labor, "they have to work too."

In case you missed that one....

 
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Not everyone can and I wouldn't make the assumption that everyone can or should.
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Why not? Do they need to buy multiple phones a year or multiple cars a decade or junk they buy over and over when it ends up being more expensive in the long run? I'm not going to pretend like everyone just can automatically afford to replace everything in their lives with quality things, but 9/10 people probably don't even know what quality is and over consume to a point where they spend a lot more in the end. Part of my point was that people should stop mass consuming garbage and they can afford nicer things that last.
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Why not? Do they need to buy multiple phones a year or multiple cars a decade or junk they buy over and over when it ends up being more expensive in the long run?
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You probably just described everyone on this forum.

Tell that to the people here that have 17 amps, 87 pedals and 14 guitars on any given day of the week:LOL:.
 
Just by reading through this thread, I can tell who has a BLM sign in their yard and wears an Ukraine pin. :ROFLMAO:
 
dRumps tariffs just mean the rest of the world will enjoy a good supply of relitively low cost goods and everyone in this country will
enjoy overpriced goods in short supply b/c dRump is a delusional washed up reality TV star w/an over-inflated sense of self importance thats never had a real job of any type.
 
shar-vell Dan said:
dRumps tariffs just mean the rest of the world will enjoy a good supply of relitively low cost goods and everyone in this country will
enjoy overpriced goods in short supply b/c dRump is a delusional washed up reality TV star w/an over-inflated sense of self importance thats never had a real job of any type.
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That's not what it means at all Dan, but hey, you never let facts or truth get in the way of your narrative before so why start now.
 
Until people stop wasting every penny they make on shit they don't need, and going into endless debt cycles, nothing will change. I know people who make high six figures who can't afford to miss a couple days work without being broke.
 
JackTripper said:
I buy USA made at every chance that arises, it's not cheap, but I can afford it........
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Must be nice...... other Americans on average would like a nice job too so they can say the same........


Unfortunately that isn't the case today thanks to Globalization and the export of good and decent jobs to other countries for the import of shity ones most on average have thanks to this.
 
All that Globalist Kumbaya shit sounded nice on paper after the Cold War ended.....

But look at the results 30 some odd years after NAFTA and all the other dumbass shit....

No one is happy with the results, no one can say they are happy with the results other than Amazon Prime Members happy to buy cheap Chinese goods on wholesale and not even Democrats are happy given Dem 27% approval rating nation wide.

I'm thankful for the President taking initiative to set things right again to bring back good jobs to the States vs subpar ones and IMO future generations will be thankful too.
 
Notice a pattern with all the BS....... how the only people happy with it like with Globalization for example are the ones who have a decent standard of living...... and who's lives really aren't affected by it......

Like most of the people happy with NYC becoming a toll road effectively. Most people happy with that were just well...... Well to do people. Even here with the tariffs the only people who seem to have an issue with it are the well to do people for the most part......


So I mean we are all supposed to just follow along with what the well to do people say because they somehow have some "moral highground" and are Chief PC Woke Gurus.....because all of the PC Woke Certified "experts" say so, same "experts" that mishandled the pandemic and led us to where we are today...... um no and mostly everyone is tired of the noise and BS and the noise and BS stops with the Tariffs.
 
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