IIC++ Reissue vs JP2C?

I played a JP when they first came out, and I had my C+ Coli at home. The JP is a cool amp, lots of cool features but it isn't even remotely a C+. No feel, the clarity isn't the same and no punch in comparison(to the SRG, HRG C+s I owned previously). It falls WAY short to a vintage C+.

Guys that I know and trust their opinions have played the reissue and admit it's VERY close to a vintage C+. If you want to try a C+, the reissue will get you mostly there without paying 5K for a vintage version.
The JP won't. You might like the JP, but it's not a C+.
I'd go with a reissue. Return it if it isn't your thing.
 
A player who owns both the C++ and the MarkV recently said he can get the C++ tones from the MarkIV setting on the MarkV.
 
D-Rock said:
A player who owns both the C++ and the MarkV recently said he can get the C++ tones from the MarkIV setting on the MarkV.
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Funny you say this; the store that I tried the JP in also had a Mk IV. It definitely sounded closer to my C+ than the JP did. But, still not the same.
 
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So I have a guy on a Mesa FB group that says his JP is for sure in the ballpark of his reissue.

I think there’s some confirmation bias for sure that’s inherently gonna happen regardless. There are definitely going to be differences. More “things” for the tone to pass through on the JP, etc. as well as no input gain control and all.

I DO know, I get all the Mark sounds I want out of the JP but I’d love to try the IIC+ reissue to compare.
 
I own a JP2C and a IIC++ reissue, both are nice amps, to my ears the JP sounds darker, tighter, more gain, the mids are different, and its sounds more modern than the reissue ++, i will say i like the feel of the ++ better, i like the where the mids sit better, and has more of the classic vibe, brighter, more crunch, less compressed. I was jamming on both earlier and i like both amps alot, ive owned the JP since day 1, its been one of my favorite amps. But if i can only own one of them then my choice is the reissue ++, i like the tone and feel better. So i guess the ++ is my favorite now because it gets closer to the tone in my head. I tried to dial in the JP to sound more like my reissue but so far i havent been able to get it to sound close enough.

JP has advantages if you wanna use it live, dedicated clean ch and the cleans sound really good although they dont have too much breakup, they are clean cleans, i love having dual EQ on the JP. So if i was playing live then the JP would be my choice if i needed something with more options and channels.
 
Les Zombie said:
I own a JP2C and a IIC++ reissue, both are nice amps, to my ears the JP sounds darker, tighter, more gain, the mids are different, and its sounds more modern than the reissue ++, i will say i like the feel of the ++ better, i like the where the mids sit better, and has more of the classic vibe, brighter, more crunch, less compressed. I was jamming on both earlier and i like both amps alot, ive owned the JP since day 1, its been one of my favorite amps. But if i can only own one of them then my choice is the reissue ++, i like the tone and feel better. So i guess the ++ is my favorite now because it gets closer to the tone in my head. I tried to dial in the JP to sound more like my reissue but so far i havent been able to get it to sound close enough.

JP has advantages if you wanna use it live, dedicated clean ch and the cleans sound really good although they dont have too much breakup, they are clean cleans, i love having dual EQ on the JP. So if i was playing live then the JP would be my choice if i needed something with more options and channels.
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Any way to make a comparison clip?
 
JerEvil said:
Any way to make a comparison clip?
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Im not really a recording guy, i dont even have a computer that works, but i have a few iphone clips, i can message you some clips if you have instagram.
 
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