So if Trump introduces digital ID's will conservatives be cool with it?

[NoHassle]

The dude borrows heavily from Zitchin, who is a debunked fraud. What did you expect?

Have you actually read the English transcription of the Old Testament?

Biglino has 100% only transcribed it word for word with no slant or interpretation and you say he's a fake. He even says, YOU make of it what you will.

You sound like a Dem on steroids right now...why is that?

If you think he's a fuckin' lying cunt power to you. I see it different and that IS the end of it.

 

[VonBonfire]

Have you actually read the English transcription of the Old Testament?

Biglino has 100% only transcribed it word for word with no slant or interpretation and you say he's a fake. He even says, YOU make of it what you will.

You sound like a Dem on steroids right now...why is that?

If you think he a fuckin' lying cunt power to you. I see it different and that IS the end of it.

Many times, yes. They are called Torah portions and if you read them each week, in a year you've covered the whole OT. He was debunked by pretty much every other biblical scholar, and Zitchin, who all those ideas stem from originally, has been debunked by actual scholars of sumerian history. Your translation is like 15 years old man, it's not anything taken seriously unless you are into sensationalism.

That you resort to insulting me and using foul language tells me you are unable to defend anything you've posted. Cryptically alluding to holding a secret truth turns out you are just rehashing pop culture new age stuff sold in your local B. Dalton for many decades, now seeing renewed popularity thanks to "ancient aliens" and other for-entertainment-only tv shows on Discovery channel re-re-packaging it. I've had and read Urantia books, Sitchin books, the Mormon bible, even Dianetics and all these are completely heretical garbage with similar lies spun slightly differently.

 

[NoHassle]

Many times, yes. They are called Torah portions and if you read them each week, in a year you've covered the whole OT. He was debunked by pretty much every other biblical scholar, and Zitchin, who all those ideas stem from originally, has been debunked by actual scholars of sumerian history. Your translation is like 15 years old man, it's not anything taken seriously unless you are into sensationalism.

That you resort to insulting me and using foul language tells me you are unable to defend anything you've posted. Cryptically alluding to holding a secret truth turns out you are just rehashing pop culture new age stuff sold in your local B. Dalton for many decades, now seeing renewed popularity thanks to "ancient aliens" and other for-entertainment-only tv shows on Discovery channel re-re-packaging it. I've had and read Urantia books, Sitchin books, the Mormon bible, even Dianetics and all these are completely heretical garbage with similar lies spun slightly differently.

Still kicking and screaming I see.

Democrat mentality is strong with you.

Debunked by who? Are the debunkers always to be believed because it's convenient for you.

You STILL don't get it, I'm NOT talking about Biglino and his other thoughts as I could care less, I'm focusing on a verbatim translation, plain and simple. If 2+2=4 there is no argument from ANYONE.

If you believe history is accurate the way it's been recorded and repeated you're entrenched in a narrative. Kept records, cultural difference and interpretations, language, social standards, communication levels etc etc all play a big part in what is passed forward. THAT doesn't make them accurate and right as they're not the pure source.

The most important and telling question in this exchange is...Organised religion started because?

The 3 great pyramids and sphinx in Cairo have zero hieroglyphics or any evidence of buried remains in them and seriously predate the pyramids the Egyptians built where THEY did write hieroglyphics and store mummies and those pyramids are all a crumbling mess and yet the 3 great pyramids are still standing strong and today's honest nobodies don't have a clue how they were built. So, as you can see the history you thought you knew isn't exactly as it was taught to you.

Your religious readings? How do YOU know they're accurate with no agenda being involved? If you know the human condition, minus social standards, it will prompt many questions of what you've been taught and believe today.

Everything I've written above is pointless as it's you who needs to seek, find and confirm what you believe is the actual truth or most likely truth knowing the old world and how humans behaved, controlled and survived back then. Look at politics in any country today and what they're all capable of regarding lies and evil and understand they weren't ANY different in the ancient world.

Speaking with me is you wasting your time and energy, spend all of that on your search.

 

[VonBonfire]

Democrat mentality is strong with you.

Insult #2. Why? Can't you defend your viewpoint with sound reasoning?

Debunked by who? Are the debunkers always to be believed because it's convenient for you.

Pretty much no biblical scholar and no sumerian scholar agree with your preferred translation or the ideas it's borrowed from Zitchin. Mainly because they lack any historical context.

You STILL don't get it, I'm NOT talking about Biglino and his other thoughts as I could care less, I'm focusing on a verbatim translation, plain and simple. If 2+2=4 there is no argument from ANYONE.

Except in language there are very few verbatims when translating from any language to another.

If you believe history is accurate the way it's been recorded and repeated you're entrenched in a narrative. Kept records, cultural difference and interpretations, language, social standards, communication levels etc etc all play a big part in what is passed forward. THAT doesn't make them accurate and right as they're not the pure source.

I trust the men who walked with Christ and the early church fathers who knew the men who walked with Christ, the 70, and their disciples, and expounded volumes on biblical texts over people who published a self translated edition in 2013. If we go to distrusting all recorded history, then anything goes I guess.

The most important and telling question in this exchange is...Organised religion started because?

Not relevant to the discussion. Christ founded orthodoxy out of love for mankind.

The 3 great pyramids and sphinx in Cairo have zero hieroglyphics or any evidence of buried remains in them and seriously predate the pyramids the Egyptians built where THEY did write hieroglyphics and store mummies and those pyramids are all a crumbling mess and yet the 3 great pyramids are still standing strong and today's honest nobodies don't have a clue how they were built. So, as you can see the history you thought you knew isn't exactly as it was taught to you.

You're going off topic to try to prove a point about the subject matter. I've owned and read those "pyramids were for power generation" books too. I was an avid man in the B Dalton new age/occult and religion section for many years. There is more credibility to those books than to a bible translation spun a dozen years ago. And to be fair, I have also read newer translations like the Everett Fox bible and even he isn't taking the same liberties your boy took because it's completely off the wall stuff with no precedent in the real world other than a re-spin of Zitchin's sensationalism which has been debunked. I suggest looking up some of the Michael Heiser lectures.

Your religious readings? How do YOU know they're accurate with no agenda being involved? If you know the human condition, minus social standards, it will prompt many questions of what you've been taught and believe today.

They are thousands of years old, written by early church fathers who gave their life for the faith. Your translation lacks any context at all, including sumerian history and the pantheon of gods it draws from. The agenda behind Zitchin was selling books and so too your author with even his book titles. He's selling stuff using sensationalism, just like Zitchin. But what he is selling are just old heresies repackaged for the modern era. The end.

Speaking with me is you wasting your time and energy, spend all of that on your search.

The search ended at my local orthodox mission parish.

 

[NoHassle]

Insult #2. Why? Can't you defend your viewpoint with sound reasoning?


Pretty much no biblical scholar and no sumerian scholar agree with your preferred translation or the ideas it's borrowed from Zitchin. Mainly because they lack any historical context.


Except in language there are very few verbatims when translating from any language to another.


I trust the men who walked with Christ and the early church fathers who knew the men who walked with Christ, the 70, and their disciples, and expounded volumes on biblical texts over people who published a self translated edition in 2013. If we go to distrusting all recorded history, then anything goes I guess.


Not relevant to the discussion. Christ founded orthodoxy out of love for mankind.


You're going off topic to try to prove a point about the subject matter. I've owned and read those "pyramids were for power generation" books too. I was an avid man in the B Dalton new age/occult and religion section for many years. There is more credibility to those books than to a bible translation spun a dozen years ago. And to be fair, I have also read newer translations like the Everett Fox bible and even he isn't taking the same liberties your boy took because it's completely off the wall stuff with no precedent in the real world other than a re-spin of Zitchin's sensationalism which has been debunked. I suggest looking up some of the Michael Heiser lectures.


They are thousands of years old, written by early church fathers who gave their life for the faith. Your translation lacks any context at all, including sumerian history and the pantheon of gods it draws from. The agenda behind Zitchin was selling books and so too your author with even his book titles. He's selling stuff using sensationalism, just like Zitchin. But what he is selling are just old heresies repackaged for the modern era. The end.


The search ended at my local orthodox mission parish.

Yes, I'm a total uncouth ignorant cunt and not worth speaking with so you should put me on ignore as I really deserve it.

It was good knowing you for the short time we had.

 

[VonBonfire]

Yes, I'm a total uncouth ignorant cunt and not worth speaking with so you should put me on ignore as I really deserve it.

You said that, not me.

It was good knowing you for the short time we had.

Not sure what you are so upset by tbh.

 

[NoHassle]

You said that, not me.


Not sure what you are so upset by tbh.

I did say it and I did mean it.

I'm not upset but life is too short to argue with people who want to argue even though I requested a few times to drop it.

We have different views and that's fine but because it's a core fundamental difference you should ignore me.

 

[VonBonfire]

I'm not upset but life is too short to argue with people who want to argue even though I requested a few times to drop it.

Debate is normal in OT. You can request all you want to drop it, but you chose to engage anyhow.

We have different views and that's fine but because it's a core fundamental difference you should ignore me.

I ignore that bad translation you presented, absolutely. I don't generally use the ignore feature just cause I disagree with someone though. You seem way to sensitive about this, which leads me to conclude that your modernist bible interpretation has failed to bring any peace to you. It's a secularists translation and very Urantia like, which might help soothe the scientific mind, but doesn't bring refreshment to a thirsty spirit.

 

[Robostyle]

Digital ID is a bullshit idea

 

[JDs Couch]

Just wondering. Dude's been meeting with Bill Gates who says we all need digital ID by 2028 or we get left behind in society. Both tied to Epstein and it looks like Gates has been a regular visitor to the island per the news. Epstein in touch with prominent figures like Gates, Musk, Thiel, Bannon and others per partial Epstein files release. Why would Trump meet with a kiddie toucher? Maybe they are old party pals from brighter days on Little Saint James.

This is pretty much why I think Trump is just another controlled character playing a role and never voted for the guy. I think a lot of conservatives still think he's a great dude meanwhile he's meeting with scum like Gates. I think like his shots a bunch of conservatives will accept digital ID's because hE's c0nSeRvAtIve. People and their partisan politics always get played I guess.

Conservatives abandon all their principles as soon as Trumpler orders them to.

Free speech? Nope
Morality? Nope
Protect the children? Nope
Fiscal Discipline? Nope

What exactly do they stand for? Authoritarian rule and kicking down at minorities, apparently.

 

[JDs Couch]

Who the fuck elected Gates? He can shove his digital ID requirement up his ass.

Him and Trump were on the Epstein Isle together.

 

[JDs Couch]

The world obviously has a billionaire problem IMHO, they all seem to be eugenicist's, sociopaths, psychopaths, or just plain greedy control freaks. It also seems they no longer hide their views from the public and people still don't hear what they say. Being that the UK just rammed digital ID's into place to work I imagine all western nations aren't far behind, they seem to be in a hurry to achieve something by 2030.

Exactly. Kill all billionaires. They are the true enemy, dividing the population against itself for profit.

Lemmy had it right. Eat the rich.

 

[rsm]

 

[VonBonfire]

Kill all billionaires.

You're bashing Magas as immoral and then advocating for murder based on a person's dollar value. smh this is why the left is being abandoned.

 

[JDs Couch]

You're bashing Magas as immoral and then advocating for murder based on a person's dollar value. smh this is why the left is being abandoned.

Being a billionaire is inherently immoral. One doesn't hoard that much wealth at the expense of others without a heavy dose of psychopathy.
In hunter gatherer cultures those types would have been ostracized as soon as they were identified. Because they prioritize their own wealth accumulation at the expense of the tribe. Only in recent years has such degenerate selfishness been lionized.

 

[JDs Couch]

You're bashing Magas as immoral and then advocating for murder based on a person's dollar value. smh this is why the left is being abandoned.

I do love you bro.

 

[VonBonfire]

Being a billionaire is inherently immoral. One doesn't hoard that much wealth at the expense of others without a heavy dose of psychopathy.

I guess it never crossed your mind someone could've inherited that wealth.

 

[JDs Couch]

I guess it never crossed your mind someone could've inherited that wealth.

Then there should be an inheritance tax that leaves them with $100,000,000. Still far more than one person could ever need.

 

[JDs Couch]

I guess it never crossed your mind someone could've inherited that wealth.

I spoke rashly. Of course, we should not kill anyone. Simply tax them in a manner that they wind up with around $100 million. Still far more than any one person could reasonably spend in many lifetimes. Meanwhile their excess wealth goes to the greater good of all.

 

[VonBonfire]

Then there should be an inheritance tax that leaves them with $100,000,000. Still far more than one person could ever need.

Though I am in general agreement that having a billion bucks is kind of like someone with 50 cats in a small home, I don't really believe in anything outside of sales taxes. There is little or no constitutional precedent for it. I think we could come up with a better idea than more taxes or outright murder when dealing with billionaires.