Micro Johnson shut down Congress to avoid Epstein vote...

[JTyson]

Funny thing about lies if you tell the truth you don't have to cover all the lies

It’s so hilarious to see you post that Mr “Go spend a year in Vietnam and then talk to me”
You and JD are the 2 biggest shit talking liars on the forum, although he might be slightly ahead of you, he never committed stolen valor so I at least have to give him that.
I guess you win by default

 

[JDs Couch]

 

[shar-vell Dan]

Thats b/c they're guilty as charged & complicit.
If you got nothing to hide you don't hide anything.

 

[Robostyle]

Thats b/c they're guilty as charged & complicit.
If you got nothing to hide you don't hide anything.

Post proof then.

 

[shar-vell Dan]

 

[JDs Couch]

Behind every pedo man is a pedo woman...

 

[JDs Couch]

 

[Robostyle]

What are you going to cry about once "the list" is released and DJT isn't on it?

 

[scottosan]

Adelita Grijalva won her election to Congress over two weeks ago, but Mike Johnson still hasn't sworn her in.

Why the delay?

Perhaps it's because Grijalva would cast the final vote needed to release the Epstein files.

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Congress is averaging 147 days per year under Johnson and 112 under pelosi. Stop. You’re looking like a meme muppet

 

[scottosan]

If you listened to any testimony, it was exposed that the investigation under the Obama administration purposefully limited the scope of the investigation and evidence to only be able to prosecute Epstein. The investigators were hindered. Why would the Dems have sat on this for 4 years while the were trying fabricate real estate cases that they themselves were more guilty of?

 

[JDs Couch]

It’s been three weeks since Adelita Grijalva won her election, but Mike Johnson is refusing to swear her in — all because she would be the final signature needed on the discharge petition to release the Epstein files.

 

[Robostyle]

Which area of new zealand does she represent
US government is shut down in case you haven't heard

 

[Geo]

 

[NoHassle]

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This reeks of RIGGED.

How anyone could dispute this is either insane or complicit.

As a plane traveller you have to show ID but as a voter you show nothing...Why aren't the Dems bitching about air travel requirements.

 

[JDs Couch]

Which area of new zealand does she represent
US government is shut down in case you haven't heard

As I explained before, The government shutdown has nothing to do with swearing in a new Congresswoman. Micro Grindr Johnson could do it at any moment.
He is delaying because she will be the final vote to release the Epstein Files.

 

[JDs Couch]

A U.S. government shutdown does *not*** prevent a newly elected member of Congress from being **sworn in**.

Here’s why:

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### 1. **Congress operates independently of executive branch funding**

A government shutdown happens when Congress fails to pass appropriations bills to fund parts of the **executive branch** (federal agencies, departments, etc.).
But members of Congress — including new ones — are part of the **legislative branch**, which manages its own internal operations and payroll through separate, “permanent” appropriations.

That means:

* The **House and Senate** can still meet, vote, and swear in members even during a shutdown.
* Congressional salaries and official duties are **not immediately halted**, since their funding is not subject to the same short-term appropriations process.

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### 2. **Constitutional duty**

The Constitution (Article VI and the 20th Amendment) requires that duly elected members be seated at the start of a new session or when they win a special election.
A funding lapse doesn’t override that — the government can’t block a member’s constitutional right to take office.

---

### 3. **Historical precedent**

During past shutdowns (e.g. 1995–96, 2013, 2018–19), new members and replacements were sworn in without delay. Congressional proceedings, votes, and floor sessions all continued. Only some **non-essential staff** were furloughed.

---

**In short:**
Even if the government is shut down, a congresswoman (or any new member) **will still be sworn in**. Congress remains in session and retains its constitutional functions, including admitting new members.

 

[The Blazing Saddle]

Phoney Iommi the cunt loves to copy and paste from WIKI. What a faggot!

 

[JDs Couch]

Here’s what the reporting currently suggests about why **Speaker Mike Johnson** is delaying the swearing-in of **Adelita Grijalva**, plus the controversies and counterarguments. (Note: this is a developing story, so some things may shift.)

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## What is happening

* Adelita Grijalva won a **special election** on September 23, 2025, for Arizona’s 7th congressional district. ([AP News][1])
* Despite the certification of her election by the state (governor, secretary of state, etc.), she has not yet been sworn in and officially seated. ([Axios][2])
* Johnson’s main public justification: he says the House is not in regular session (due to a government shutdown and recess), and that he will swear her in when the House returns to session. ([AP News][1])
* Johnson and his office claim it's standard practice (in his view) to wait until members are sworn in during legislative sessions, not during recess or shutdowns. ([Axios][2])
* But critics and Democrats argue that this is inconsistent with past practice (including under Johnson himself, when new Republicans were sworn in during pro forma sessions earlier in the year) and accuse Johnson of **politically motivated** delay. ([AP News][1])
* The political stakes are high: Grijalva’s swearing-in gives her the ability to sign a **discharge petition** that would force a floor vote to **release Justice Department / Epstein-related files**. Her signature would be the 218th (i.e. decisive) one needed in the House to trigger that vote. ([TIME][3])
* Some see the delay as Johnson (and Republicans more broadly) seeking to prevent or at least delay that discharge vote, which they oppose. ([Axios][4])
* The Arizona Attorney General, Kris Mayes, has publicly threatened legal action, calling Johnson’s excuse “ever-shifting, unsatisfactory, and sometimes absurd,” arguing the delay denies Arizona constituents representation and possibly violates constitutional principles. ([Axios][2])
* Johnson has responded by citing precedent (e.g. a 2021 case where a newly elected member was sworn in some weeks later) and denying that Epstein is the cause. ([The Daily Beast][5])

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## Analysis & plausibility

From what’s reported, here’s a breakdown of the arguments, counterarguments, and what seems likely:

| Argument / Explanation | Supporting points | Weaknesses or counterpoints |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| **Johnson’s procedural / institutional claim**: He delays because the House is not in full session, due to the shutdown, and he prefers to swear in during regular sessions. | He repeatedly cites the shutdown, recess, and tradition. ([Axios][2]) | Critics point out he has sworn in members in past “pro forma” or out-of-session situations (e.g. Republicans earlier this year) ([AP News][1]) |
| **Political motivation / obstruction**: The delay is intended to block or delay the discharge petition to force a vote on Epstein-related files, since Grijalva’s signature is critical. | Timing aligns, the vote is contentious, the margin is narrow, and delay favors opponents. ([The Times][6]) | Johnson flatly denies it is about Epstein, calls that notion “absurd.” ([The Daily Beast][7]) |
| **Constitutional / representational concern**: Even during recess or shutdown, delaying swearing-in deprives constituents of representation, and House cannot constitutionally exclude a duly elected member. | Legal precedents and constitutional norms suggest the chamber can’t block seating of qualified members; AG Mayes threatens court action. ([Axios][2]) | House rules do not always mandate a time for swearing in, and speakership has discretion over when to administer oaths. Also, operational disruption (shutdowns) creates ambiguities. |
| **Precedent arguments**: Johnson and allies say there’s precedent (e.g. delays in earlier swearing-ins, procedural norms) to justify the hold. | He cites a 2021 example for a delayed swearing-in under Speaker Pelosi. ([The Daily Beast][5]) | Critics say those precedents are weak or selectively applied, and point to past examples when Johnson himself swore in Republicans out-of-session. ([AP News][1]) |

Given the available evidence, many observers believe **political motives** are a strong factor. The close margin in the House and the importance of Grijalva’s signature on the Epstein files vote make the delay highly consequential, and the inconsistencies in past practice (especially for Republicans) raise red flags about whether this delay is purely procedural.

However, Johnson’s procedural claims are not obviously implausible—shutdowns and recesses do complicate scheduling of legislative business—and the Speaker does have significant control over when to administer oaths. But the contrast between how he handled swearing in Republicans in similar circumstances and how he is handling Grijalva’s case undermines the purely procedural defense in many eyes.

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* [AP News](https://apnews.com/article/d52af4b1471a3ed6cd9f0803f711ed64?utm_source=chatgpt.com)
* [TIME](https://time.com/7323800/adelita-grijalva-congress-swearing-in-delay-mike-johnson-shutdown-epstein/?utm_source=chatgpt.com)
* [Axios](https://www.axios.com/local/phoenix/2025/10/14/arizona-mayes-threatens-lawsuit-johnson-grijalva-swearing-in?utm_source=chatgpt.com)
* [The Daily Beast](https://www.thedailybeast.com/johnson-cornered-on-claims-hes-snubbing-democrat-to-avoid-epstein-files-vote/?utm_source=chatgpt.com)

[1]: https://apnews.com/article/d52af4b1471a3ed6cd9f0803f711ed64?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Newly elected Arizona lawmaker has yet to be sworn into office, as House Democrats welcome her"
[2]: https://www.axios.com/local/phoenix...n-grijalva-swearing-in?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Arizona AG threatens lawsuit as Speaker Johnson delays Grijalva swearing-in"
[3]: https://time.com/7323800/adelita-gr...nson-shutdown-epstein/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "What to Know About Adelita Grijalva, Her Stalled Swearing-In, and Her Crucial Epstein Vote"
[4]: https://www.axios.com/2025/09/29/mike-johnson-epstein-files-grijalva-clark?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Democrats turn up heat on Johnson over Epstein files vote delay"
[5]: https://www.thedailybeast.com/mike-...ed-about-epstein-vote/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Johnson Patronizes Rep.-Elect When Cornered on Epstein Vote"
[6]: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...frey-epstein-gnxk6wct9?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Democrat pledges to release Epstein files - and has swearing-in delayed"
[7]: https://www.thedailybeast.com/johns...id-epstein-files-vote/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Johnson Cornered on Claims He's Snubbing Dem to Avoid Epstein Vote"

 

[Findthetone1]

As I explained before, The government shutdown has nothing to do with swearing in a new Congresswoman. Micro Grindr Johnson could do it at any moment.
He is delaying because she will be the final vote to release the Epstein Files.

A U.S. government shutdown does *not*** prevent a newly elected member of Congress from being **sworn in**.

Here’s why:

---

### 1. **Congress operates independently of executive branch funding**

A government shutdown happens when Congress fails to pass appropriations bills to fund parts of the **executive branch** (federal agencies, departments, etc.).
But members of Congress — including new ones — are part of the **legislative branch**, which manages its own internal operations and payroll through separate, “permanent” appropriations.

That means:

* The **House and Senate** can still meet, vote, and swear in members even during a shutdown.
* Congressional salaries and official duties are **not immediately halted**, since their funding is not subject to the same short-term appropriations process.

---

### 2. **Constitutional duty**

The Constitution (Article VI and the 20th Amendment) requires that duly elected members be seated at the start of a new session or when they win a special election.
A funding lapse doesn’t override that — the government can’t block a member’s constitutional right to take office.

---

### 3. **Historical precedent**

During past shutdowns (e.g. 1995–96, 2013, 2018–19), new members and replacements were sworn in without delay. Congressional proceedings, votes, and floor sessions all continued. Only some **non-essential staff** were furloughed.

---

**In short:**
Even if the government is shut down, a congresswoman (or any new member) **will still be sworn in**. Congress remains in session and retains its constitutional functions, including admitting new members.

 

[Robostyle]