What makes a GUITAR CAB sound GREAT? (with Steven Fryette)

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that was pretty awesome man, thanks for posting that. Makes sense now why tightening up those old Marshall 1960 cabs makes such an improvement. :cheers:
 
Steven is such a wealth of information. Tone is such a complex, interactive journey that can be humbling and frustrating. Like many, I started out thinking the guitar had to be the most important - because that's all I could afford to care about. I then became obsessed with amps and thought I had it all solved - until multiple amp techs confided that the most impactful piece of the signal is, in fact, the speaker. After having multiple cabs and experimenting with myriad speakers, I now know how many amps and guitars I hated because I had them going through the wrong speakers.

But of course, I thought the actual cabs themselves couldn't possibly have an impact - it's just freakin plywood! But unfortunately, it does, and nice to see Steven explain why. I have eight 4x12s to experiment with. I can put the exact same speakers in two different builders' cabs, through the same amp and guitar, and it will sound different in each. And one usually sounds much better than the other. Ugggh. The quest continues.
 
bierbuddy said:
Steven is such a wealth of information. Tone is such a complex, interactive journey that can be humbling and frustrating. Like many, I started out thinking the guitar had to be the most important - because that's all I could afford to care about. I then became obsessed with amps and thought I had it all solved - until multiple amp techs confided that the most impactful piece of the signal is, in fact, the speaker. After having multiple cabs and experimenting with myriad speakers, I now know how many amps and guitars I hated because I had them going through the wrong speakers.

But of course, I thought the actual cabs themselves couldn't possibly have an impact - it's just freakin plywood! But unfortunately, it does, and nice to see Steven explain why. I have eight 4x12s to experiment with. I can put the exact same speakers in two different builders' cabs, through the same amp and guitar, and it will sound different in each. And one usually sounds much better than the other. Ugggh. The quest continues.
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I would go so far and say: No 1960B Cab (for example) sounds the same. Actually nothing sounds the same. It's a bit different i every case.
 
Simon Dorn said:
So the Clip isn't useful to you. Fair enough. Why do you comment?
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Because it's weird to me that people need videos to tell them what sounds good but I guess if your company is making cabs it's a great way to sell someone something. *shrugs
 
Simon Dorn said:
Is it that bad? I tried a SigX. That doesn't count i guess?
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Well they're got their fans but I'm not one of them. Even with good Celestions I find them very sterile and blunt (no bloom at all). Sure they're very tight but at the expense virtually all warmth. And a nice Marshall cab is tight enough for 99% of applications. Put it this way, if the VHT FatBottom 4x12 is 50% tighter than a Marshall cab, it's also 75% less warm and woody at the same time. So the trade off ends up in the negative IMO.
 
VonBonfire said:
Because it's weird to me that people need videos to tell them what sounds good but I guess if your company is making cabs it's a great way to sell someone something. *shrugs
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The technical/constructional side of things can be interesting for some. No one has to agree with what they are telling.
 
thegame said:
Well they're got their fans but I'm not one of them. Even with good Celestions I find them very sterile and blunt (no bloom at all). Sure they're very tight but at the expense virtually all warmth. And a nice Marshall cab is tight enough for 99% of applications. Put it this way, if the VHT FatBottom 4x12 is 50% tighter than a Marshall cab, it's also 75% less warm and woody at the same time. So the trade off ends up in the negative IMO.
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Makes sense. The Sig X is also a bit stiff and dry. And not saturated at all.
 
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