101b Red vs 20th Shiva Modern mode

[Bxlxaxkxe]

Thoughts? Does one suit a certain style more than the other?

More modern of the two?

Jerry Cantrell tones?

 

[GOHOINC]

I haven't had a regular 101b but I have a 20th and the classic xtc and I have had the 20th shiva. My take is that they are different animals. When I was in the honeymoon phase with the Shiva I thought it was a good match but that wore off. The Shiva is fantastic at more classic tones but the higher gain settings are fizzy compared to the xtc, imo.

 

[scottosan]

the Shiva with Kt88's has lots of gain and very open unlike the 101b's compressed red channel. I think the 20th shiva is better for high gain rhythm, and the 101b for high gail leads.

 

[the4thlast1]

I'm wondering the same thing...I've never tried a Shiva, I would imagine the 20th with KT88s would work well for Metal but I can't say. I've played the 101B several times and the red channel does a really good thick somewhat dark high gain. Rhythm and lead. That channel sounds a lot like the red channel on a EVH 5153 to me but the XTC can be thicker , have more low end in comparison. The voicing is very similar though.

I wonder if the KT88 Shiva does a similar type of high gain rhythm / lead but a bit more present and in your face. That could be cool.

 

[Bxlxaxkxe]

I'm wondering the same thing...I've never tried a Shiva, I would imagine the 20th with KT88s would work well for Metal but I can't say. I've played the 101B several times and the red channel does a really good thick somewhat dark high gain. Rhythm and lead. That channel sounds a lot like the red channel on a EVH 5153 to me but the XTC can be thicker , have more low end in comparison. The voicing is very similar though.

I wonder if the KT88 Shiva does a similar type of high gain rhythm / lead but a bit more present and in your face. That could be cool.

I spent some time with a 20th Shiva last weekend- it certainly wasn't dark, but I didn't find it to be very thick like I was hoping.


I have a line on a classic for a great price, so that's another animal I need to consider. I just feel from reading that the 101b would suit my higher gain needs better, but it's a guessing game. Will probably give it a test run this weekend-

 

[Rdodson]

20th Shiva/KT88 is by far the most modern-sounding with the mode and EQ switches. So modern that I never used them. Next would be the 101b post '04, then the 101b pre '04, then the Classic.

 

[Bxlxaxkxe]

20th Shiva/KT88 is by far the most modern-sounding with the mode and EQ switches. So modern that I never used them. Next would be the 101b post '04, then the 101b pre '04, then the Classic.

Good info Ron. What makes the classic less modern than a current 101b? Bass? Gain? Aggression?