1986 charvel model 4

[zepplin490]

I do dig it, Im still wondering about its origins and as the Charvel logo is not real i am wondering why someone would put that on there.. are 80's charvels commonly faked with other guitars? ive looked up the model 4's and they dont seem to be going for huge money so why would someone make a fake? and go to the extent of sanding off the original finish and cutting a charvelish headstock? and then throwing in a set of duncans?.. Im just wondering what guitar this may have started out as... I cant find a S/N anywhere on it but i havent looked in the trem cavity on the back.. when i do ill post some shot of it..
-mp-
At least I diddnt get ripped off in the trade i made to acquire it a pod xt pro only goes for 150-$200 used and I got the pod i traded for it for $100 and ive got about $100 into it for repairs and new handmade parts..

 

[charveldan]

Seeing how alot of MIK Jacksons from the 90's were Poplar bodies wouldn't be surprised if this was too.

 

[zepplin490]

Any way i can tell what the wood is?
-mp-
without cutting it to pieces

 

[charveldan]

Any way i can tell what the wood is?
-mp-
without cutting it to pieces

Open the electronics cavity and scrape off paint on the inside. From there its a guessing game.

 

[Chris6870]

The Floyd nut is a deal breaker. All of the Charvels of the era had a separate nut and string lock.

Starting the early 90's they went to the regular floyd nut.

Look at the Model 4 picture I posted above. 1987 with a regular Floyd nut.

Steve

The blue one? That does not look like a standard floyd nut. It has a regular nut with a locking nut bolted to the headstock ala Kahler. Standard floyd nut would sit on a routed shelf. The 90's bodies were more sculpted like a soloist body. They made so many models for foreign markets it's hard to say

 

[Anonymous]

The Floyd nut is a deal breaker. All of the Charvels of the era had a separate nut and string lock.

Starting the early 90's they went to the regular floyd nut.

Look at the Model 4 picture I posted above. 1987 with a regular Floyd nut.

Steve

The blue one? That does not look like a standard floyd nut. It has a regular nut with a locking nut bolted to the headstock ala Kahler. Standard floyd nut would sit on a routed shelf. The 90's bodies were more sculpted like a soloist body. They made so many models for foreign markets it's hard to say

Yup, you're right. Can't even gt my own picture evidence right!

 

[Chris6870]

The Floyd nut is a deal breaker. All of the Charvels of the era had a separate nut and string lock.

Starting the early 90's they went to the regular floyd nut.

Look at the Model 4 picture I posted above. 1987 with a regular Floyd nut.

Steve

The blue one? That does not look like a standard floyd nut. It has a regular nut with a locking nut bolted to the headstock ala Kahler. Standard floyd nut would sit on a routed shelf. The 90's bodies were more sculpted like a soloist body. They made so many models for foreign markets it's hard to say

Yup, you're right. Can't even gt my own picture evidence right!

Don't sweat it.

 

[Shawn Lutz]

You know it may not be a Model 4 but still may be a Charvel. Can you find any serial #? Maybe on the end of fretboard. Charvel made a slew of imported models in every configuration you can imagine on through the mid 90's.Take a look at this site and see if you can match it up-
http://www.charvelusa.com/photos.html

this guitar is NOT a Charvel, not before the refin not ever

Ans yes people slap Chavel logos on other makes. My guess this is some kind of Hondo of other copy with a Charvel logo added to make it look like a Charvel.

Take a picture for the back so we can see the control route which might help ID what this really is.

 

[zepplin490]

Definatly not a hondo... Ive never seen a neck through hondo and this is a fairly decent quality instrument.. May not be a charvel but whatever it started its life as it was a fairly good guitar.
-mp-

 

[Shawn Lutz]

Definatly not a hondo... Ive never seen a neck through hondo and this is a fairly decent quality instrument.. May not be a charvel but whatever it started its life as it was a fairly good guitar.
-mp-

Hondo built neck thrus back then. They even were owned by the same company (IMC) as Chavel for a bit back then too. I remember playing a RR copy one time and it really wasnt a PoS like most Hondos.

If you have a picture of the back and a better one of the headstock we could probably tell you what it is if you're curious. If it plays and sound goods and you like it may not matter.

 

[baron55]

Charvel Models 5 and 6 were neck through and had that body style (Jackson Soloist style). So you may indeed have a Charvel 5 or 6 series. Looks like it to me.

Also the Floyd nut could have been added later. I have a 1986 Model 2 and added a recessed Original Floyd Rose and a Floyd nut. The Luther I had do it did a killer hob with the routing, looks factory.

 

[Chris6870]

Charvel Models 5 and 6 were neck through and had that body style (Jackson Soloist style). So you may indeed have a Charvel 5 or 6 series. Looks like it to me.

Also the Floyd nut could have been added later. I have a 1986 Model 2 and added a recessed Original Floyd Rose and a Floyd nut. The Luther I had do it did a killer hob with the routing, looks factory.

Model 6's had shark inlays. Model 5 had dots.There was also the neck thru 475 model too.

 

[jlbaxe]

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=89902&hilit=Charvel+model+4

1986 model 4 I got about $300 i think

 

[Enjolras56]

Charvel Models 5 and 6 were neck through and had that body style (Jackson Soloist style). So you may indeed have a Charvel 5 or 6 series. Looks like it to me.

Also the Floyd nut could have been added later. I have a 1986 Model 2 and added a recessed Original Floyd Rose and a Floyd nut. The Luther I had do it did a killer hob with the routing, looks factory.

Hate to keep drilling it in there that it's not part of the Japanese Model series, but the Model 5 and Model 6 both had 3 knobs (volume, tone, and mid-boost). This guitar clearly has two knobs. Additionally, the Model 5 has a 5-way blade type pickup selector while the Model 6 has the 3 mini toggles.

Is the top on this guitar flat? From the pics it kinda looks slightly curved?

 

[rupe]

The control cavity rout would likely tell a lot...if the OP truly gives a shit he should post a pic of the back of the guitar.

 

[Shawn Lutz]

The control cavity rout would likely tell a lot...if the OP truly gives a shit he should post a pic of the back of the guitar.

seems like OP doesn't care as he likes teh guitar. Nonetheless he is being somewhat defensive and questioning what it is when multiple people state that this guitar aint a Charvel model of any kind.

I'm wondering if it was advertised as a Model 4 or if the previous owner really thought it was a model 4. He traded a POD XT for it so not glaring dollar value mismatch between the two...just bugs me when people misrepresent things...regardless of costs

 

[zepplin490]

I know that its not charvel im not disputing that at all, in fact im grateful that the locals on here set me straight. I only questioned a couple of comment not misrepresenting myself or the guitar at all..
-mp-

 

[riffermadness]

Yeah its neck through and has a jackson licensed trem.
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Model 5's and 6's were the neck through models..I had a bright red Model 5 neck through with dot inlays,the Kahler tremelo and 2 active Jackson pickups. I bought mine new in 87..I am not an expert on them but my friends Model 6 had the shark tooth inlays and the HSS pickup configuration..so if you are saying yours is a neck through you may want to see what info you can find..yours looks really nice though.

 

[IndyWS6]

Yeah its neck through and has a jackson licensed trem.
=mp-

Model 5's and 6's were the neck through models..I had a bright red Model 5 neck through with dot inlays,the Kahler tremelo and 2 active Jackson pickups. I bought mine new in 87..I am not an expert on them but my friends Model 6 had the shark tooth inlays and the HSS pickup configuration..so if you are saying yours is a neck through you may want to see what info you can find..yours looks really nice though.

Dude, this is a nearly 5 year old thread. Pretty sure all the questions have been answered by now...