5150 III 50 watt users

[Petrucci]

I know, it's been discussed before, but..,

What about the volume jump between ch1 and ch2?
Is that bad the shared EQ for ch1 & ch2?
How's in the live situation / shared EQ/?

Really thanks an advance and have a nice day.

 

[ejecta]

"What about the volume jump between ch1 and ch2?"

Yes.. it's there depending on where you set the gain. You can set the gain around noon and there isn't a volume jump but if you find you like the gain set to where there is a volume jump it is fixable with an effects unit upping the volume on your clean patches.

"Is that bad the shared EQ for ch1 & ch2?"

IHMO not at all. Again with an effects unit you can have more flexibility with an EQ in the loop.

How's in the live situation / shared EQ/?

I have had no issues either having the amps gain set where there is no volume jump or using a PODHD500 four cable method to fix the volume jump. It's been great using it in a band for me.

 

[Crunchtime]

This may interest you.

http://www.guitarampboard.com/forum/vie ... =5&t=16570

 

[billboogie]

In live situations I don't notice the volume jump at all.......I switch between green and blue all night and use the red as my lead channel.....Having the volume up lessens the jump as well as the aforementioned gain setting.......

Gain is past noon..........around 1 O'clock

 

[4406cuda]

I also use a hd pod 500 with 4 cable method. Works perfect with the midi capability of the 5150 for channel switching.

 

[shred-o-holic]

Jens Kruse fixes the channel volume issue at Kruse Control in CA. I only use Channel 3 in my metal band and it kills live. I prefer it over my Engl Fireball 100 in a mix fwiw...

 

[Orvillain]

Sold mine because of it. Wont buy another. It's not fixable, not to my satisfaction. Pod didn't cure it, 4-cable method with various processors just introduced cracks, pops, and loud spikes of volume when the processor didn't change quick enough. I think if you keep it as analog as possible, with no midi switching, you may be fine. But fuck it... plenty - PLENTY - of 3 and 4 channel amps out there. I ended up with a Diezel D-Moll and I LOVE it.

 

[shred-o-holic]

Sold mine because of it. Wont buy another. It's not fixable, not to my satisfaction.

Like I said....Jens Kruse can fix the issue if needed at his shop in SoCal...it is fixable.....not saying people need to pay or want to pay for the mod......but it's fixable...

http://www.krusekontrol.com/evh_iii_mod/b-2_stealth_mod_50w

 

[Petrucci]

Thanks for all the input!

I've heard so many positives about this amp, so what are the main "disadvantages"?
Ex users - why did you sell the amp?
Any user's experience is highly appreciated.
Thanks again.

 

[tech21man]

For some weird reason there is the rumor that EVH himself insisted on the shared gain tonestack etc between green and blue and that any attempt to balance them ruined what he wanted. So ok, I'd just put another chorus pedal with a level to just even out the volume and be done with it.

 

[ejecta]

IHMO the volume thing is way overblown and gets used a lot as an excuse to sell the head and continue the gear whoring.

 

[billboogie]

doesn't clean up well with the guitar volume knob blue or red channel is the only complaint I have ......Not for my taste anyway, but then again I seem to be the only one who doesn't have a problem with the volume difference....I'll specify by saying I don't have a problem with it at gig volumes, home at lower volumes there is a big difference.....No biggie, I bought this amp to make money with........My .02

 

[billboogie]

IHMO the volume thing is way overblown and gets used a lot as an excuse to sell the head and continue the gear whoring.

That could be,I could be wrong....... I believe it's a bedroom players problem.....
No offense to the stay at home players here on the forum......

 

[stompboxfreak72]

I have the 50 watt and the Stealth. I had the standard 100 watt but sold it when I got the 100s. Anyway, the shared eq does suck but at gig volumes I forget about it entirely. I prefer the 50 watt to the 100 watt bc the blue channel on the 50 has more gain than the 100 watt.

The stealth has the blue channel of the 50 watt and no shared eq so its perfect imo. If I had to sell the stealth and gig with the 50 watt it would be fine. Its a mean little amp. Find a used one for $650'or so if you can and have at it.

 

[jsp]

IHMO the volume thing is way overblown and gets used a lot as an excuse to sell the head and continue the gear whoring.

I haven't played this particular amp, but, how is a volume jump between channels not a real problem? Bedroom or gig, I wouldn't be able to tolerate that at all.

 

[ejecta]

IHMO the volume thing is way overblown and gets used a lot as an excuse to sell the head and continue the gear whoring.

I haven't played this particular amp, but, how is a volume jump between channels not a real problem? Bedroom or gig, I wouldn't be able to tolerate that at all.

I have no volume jump on my 5153 rig so no.... it's no problem. And even if you set the gain to where there is a minor jump then you can fix it with an effects unit. Like I said people having a problem with these ways of addressing it are blowing it way out of proportion. All IMHO.

 

[billboogie]

At gig levels (volume between 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock) it is no different than turning your guitar volume pot down to clean up......

 

[Tuckerbomb]

I use the 50 watt live with my hard rock band. The funny thing is that to me, the volume jump is noticeable - on the green channel! I run the blue channel most of the time and set the gain where I like it - around 1:00, but if I switch the the clean channel, it's loud as fuck! So I have to switch channels AND volume down together.
So I end up staying on the blue and voluming down without switching. Red channel is great for bedroom volume. Full gain & volume cracked, it's awesome.

 

[Orvillain]

IHMO the volume thing is way overblown and gets used a lot as an excuse to sell the head and continue the gear whoring.

Sorry, but that's absolute bollocks. The amp has a very clear design flaw. It is touted as a 3 channel amp, but it can only be used as a 2 channel, which is why so many people sell them.

 

[ejecta]

IHMO the volume thing is way overblown and gets used a lot as an excuse to sell the head and continue the gear whoring.

Sorry, but that's absolute bollocks. The amp has a very clear design flaw. It is touted as a 3 channel amp, but it can only be used as a 2 channel, which is why so many people sell them.

Design flaw? You can only use it as a two channel amp??? I use all three channels with no problem so..... yeah I see your "bollocks" and raise you with your opinion being total bullshit.