A cheap Suhr guitar?????

[metalmaniac93]

If you like fender strats as much as Suhrs, congratulations, you just saved yourself $1000. To me, my Suhrs destroy all the fenders I have had in the past. In particular, my Suhr tele is miles better than my 97 fender American standard was. It's really not even close. To me, I hear and feel a massive difference.

But if you've already played Suhrs and determined they aren't worth it to you, then what is the point of this thread? Enjoy the extra cash you have laying around as a result on something else and call it a day.

Same way I feel. "For $1,600, I could get blah, blah, blah..." Well, then go do it already! Sounds to me like he just wanted to start a thread to bad-mouth Suhr. "I won't spend $2K+ for a bolt on!"....I can't tell you how STUPID that sounds every time I hear someone say that. I'd take a bolt on over a neck thru ANYDAY. It's all a matter of preference. But, to assume that a guitar isn't worth that price, just because it's a bolt on....how lame. And, I've actually got a $1,000 Rasmus guitar....and while it's not as nice as my Suhrs, it actually sounds and plays somewhat close to the real thing. Not a bad guitar whatsoever, but definitely not for some CORK SNIFFER. Richedie's posts remind of someone from the TGP board.

richedie's posts makes me want to punch babies and kick puppies.

They leave me scratching my head

AGREED!

Same here in addition to my signature quote below!!!

 

[metalmaniac93]

If you like fender strats as much as Suhrs, congratulations, you just saved yourself $1000. To me, my Suhrs destroy all the fenders I have had in the past. In particular, my Suhr tele is miles better than my 97 fender American standard was. It's really not even close. To me, I hear and feel a massive difference.

But if you've already played Suhrs and determined they aren't worth it to you, then what is the point of this thread? Enjoy the extra cash you have laying around as a result on something else and call it a day.

Agreed!!

I play Suhr's (Pro Series S2's) because I know the quality under the paint(2 piece bodies), necks and bodies fitted together.... and workmanship! You never know what you're going to get with Fender these days (3 to 4 pieces of wood)....

That's why I don't mind paying for and owning SLO's! They are quality inside and out, the company is small and original, and the tones are killer and low volumes and high volumes.

When people are always looking for a "deal" on cheaper gear and not so much centered on quality and longevity, then that's why there is Peavey, EVH, Fender, Jet City....Hyundai etc. That is the target market. These are great products for the short term....but not really a LONG TERM investment item like Rolex, Soldano, Suhr, Anderson, Diezel...etc.

Just my .002 cents, but thats how i look at it.

Wait a minute!!! How did Hyundai get into this conversation?

 

[steve_k]

His guitar tech said so.....

 

[DarrenX]

@richedie, get back on the meds then go back and read all of your inane schizophrenic posts. You're all over the freakin' place with your questions and observations.

 

[Zachman]

 

[racerevlon]

I have played Suhr guitars and don't find them any better than a USA Fender.

Not to start world war three or anything but i agree here - I picked up a USA and MIJ charvel after playing a few suhr maple neck/rosewood combinations and was shocked that if i were blind folded i would not be able to tell the difference between either of them for tone, neck quality, finish, sound, etc.

Suhr's are great guitars but i have not picked one up that has come close to a TA. The Charvel's are worth their weight in gold. And no - i do not own one.

Now that's weird because I have the exact opposite experience with Suhr and TA. I can feel the resonance of a Suhr blindfolded but I've never been impressed by any TA guitar, and I've played plenty.

 

[glpg80]

I had the opposite - felt the resonance of the TA unplugged. Hell there was even a thread created about a particular TA that i played in NC. Suhr's just have not had that same quality unplugged in my experience.

I also prefer TA neck profiles - they have character and feel more comfortable whereas Suhr neck profiles have always felt like high quality fender or warmoth standard shapes.

Of course these guitars are highly customizable so all of this is said in light of personal experience. If i had to choose my choice would be easy.

 

[jcj]

Dude.....the gear is fucking up the blood flow to your brain...you're too pumped

2k for a "bolt on guitar" is nothing, assuming it works for your needs, and provides the sound/feel you're looking for; what are you playing currently?

I personally prefer Anderson, but either can be had had (used) in the $1200-$1500 range.

I'd suggest trying one of each, and forming your own opinion.

 

[Lublin]

@richedie, get back on the meds then go back and read all of your inane schizophrenic posts. You're all over the freakin' place with your questions and observations.

BRAVO!

 

[Bronco]

If you like fender strats as much as Suhrs, congratulations, you just saved yourself $1000. To me, my Suhrs destroy all the fenders I have had in the past. In particular, my Suhr tele is miles better than my 97 fender American standard was. It's really not even close. To me, I hear and feel a massive difference.

But if you've already played Suhrs and determined they aren't worth it to you, then what is the point of this thread? Enjoy the extra cash you have laying around as a result on something else and call it a day.

Agreed!!

I play Suhr's (Pro Series S2's) because I know the quality under the paint(2 piece bodies), necks and bodies fitted together.... and workmanship! You never know what you're going to get with Fender these days (3 to 4 pieces of wood)....

That's why I don't mind paying for and owning SLO's! They are quality inside and out, the company is small and original, and the tones are killer and low volumes and high volumes.

I was just going to basically say the same thing...totally agree.

 

[cardinal]

Thing I've noticed about Suhrs (and TAGs, too if you just grab one off the rack at a store, the action is crazy low. It shows how amazing the fretwork is because there's no buzzing or fretting out, but the fact is the action that low doesn't let the strings "breathe" IMHO. Suhr's actually mentioned this too, but it's easier for him to set the action low and let the buyer raise it up a bit.

Moral of the story: if you're really interested in one and don't need/want the action super ridiculously low, try to have the store raise the action to a more sane level. I think you'll then be very impressed with their resonance and feel compared to Fenders, once the strings can breathe just a bit.

 

[dfrattaroli]

I won't spend $2000 for a bolt on guitar!

I don't understand. Why do some people thing that bolt-ons are inherently inferior instruments and therefore should cost less? Do you think it's "easier" to build a bolt-on? I just don't get comments like this.

And for someone who is quick to let everyone know that you have a "Bogner Shiva and PWE Event Horizon", etc., etc., I'm shocked you don't know about Suhr guitars.

 

[RG955TT]

I'm sorry but this thread is just retarded...if you don't get it we cant help you. Buy your fender (or whatever neckthru made in Korea or wherever) and be done with it. Useless dumb statements with no basis in fact or experience with the guitars in question and then bashing the same, why??? I usually am not so forceful on here but some of the posting latley have been kind of pointless if the OP with no real experience has already made up their mind. This is the same guy with endless posts and choice problems with Lynchbacks and creambacks and whatever? Must have heard 9 million times about his PWE and Shiva...jeeze, just go play yer guitar already and refrain from insulting U.S premium builders whether guitar or amps etc etc. JS and TA build some of the finest bolt on guitars (and others) available today at very fair price points for USA made instruments with unbelievably great consistency and quality. Rant over!

 

[RockStarNick]

I think people are quick to assume that because they themselves can physically screw together two pieces of wood with ease, that it "can't be that hard" and that ANYTHING without a set neck is a "glorified parts-o-caster".

Sizzler cooks steaks. So does Smith & Wollensky. If you can't tell the difference, you shouldn't be eating at the latter.

 

[Lublin]

I think people are quick to assume that because they themselves can physically screw together two pieces of wood with ease, that it "can't be that hard" and that ANYTHING without a set neck is a "glorified parts-o-caster".

Sizzler cooks steaks. So does Smith & Wollensky. If you can't tell the difference, you shouldn't be eating at the latter.

 

[dfrattaroli]

Bitches be trippin' yo!!!

 

[rlord1974]

Richedie's posts remind of someone from the TGP board.

FYI, his username is 'papersoul' on TGP.

 

[Lublin]

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I have tried over 20 pickups in my 2003 LP and ended back with Burstbucker Pros.

Also ordering a Shredder from Jim, an Iron Man for my PRS and Crossroads or Darkburst for my SG. Goodwood for my McCarty.

Got the Goodwood installed but I prefer the Duncan 59/Custom hybrid, better clarity and bigger sounding.

After more play time, the GW is kicking some butt! Reminds me more of a custom shop Duncan Brobucker.

The WCR 9.4K Cherrybucker Goodwood really woke up this LP along with the 500K pot. More life, presence, feel, articulation and tone. I felt a better connection to the instrument. I will be doing business with Jim going forward. I am now a WCR man, for sure.

I like the Godwood and Goodwood, but prefer the Goodwood (9.4K) so having Jim make me another.

I much prefer the stock Gibson HB-L and HB-R and CTS 500K audio taper pots!

I just think people get carried away with pickups, they make such a small difference. There are so many more variables that are vastly more important than pickups. What is it that people think they hear or feel inm WCR pickups? Just buy a Duncan, and save your money if you must.

 

[gibson5413]

Rich tries but I see what you all are saying. I think he just needs constant validation from forum members. He used to do this years ago on the Institute of Noise (Line 6) forum. Thread after thread about the Vetta and how to make it sound more realistic, which cabs to use, etc.

I try to cut a little slack and usually don't like to get involved here but some of the comments are just strange. I agree with Dave about neck thru vs bolt on. My Andersons are just as if not more acoustically resonant than any neck thru I have played. There are going to be some inconsistencies with mass produced guitars (Fender and Gibson) but there are some really good ones out there. I am not saying that every guitar that Anderson, Suhr, GMW or any other smaller builder makes won't have a dud but they are few and far between IMO.

Rich, I know it is your opinion but make sure you truly research and thoughtfully post your comments. If you can get a few guitars (like you mentioned above) for the same price as a Suhr then it sounds like you answered your own question. If you are seeking validation here then save your money. It doesn't sound like you will ever be satisfied. All of my Andersons were thoughtfully spec'ed by my own research based on tones and feel that I wanted. Opinions on forums like Rig Talk are just that, opinion. Form your own and take others comments as a starting point.

Rant off.

 

[Lublin]

Got awfully quiet in here!