??-A little Friday- Fortin Cali - Metal test ??

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So..... I Got off work early today...... and tried my Fortin Cali with my big Friedman 412:15 cab.
Holy shit balls! Might be my favorite combo to date.
I’ve been playing the fortin through my Front load creamback 75/V30 4x12 cab. It’s just as amazing. I also tried the fortin through my 2 other cabs, but like a dodo, I never plugged it into the Friedman cab.
Well today I did, and I had to share with my rig talk bros and sistas.
Damn brutal. Still has a little warmth to it also. I love experimenting :rock:
I will get some torpedo studio tracks soon. I’ve got it dialed in, just need to get some drums going.
So for now, it’s in room with my iPhone XR. Still sounds decent me thinks.



Love to hear your comments and questions :rock:
 
Sick! Violence/Jose on? You’re saying that the Cali is taking number 1, how does it compare to the slax from a. Metal standpoint? Im debating selling my butterslax to get one of these in the next batch, I reallllly like my Meshuggah, I prefer it soundwise for metal to my Slax and thinking that this would pair nicely
 
DeathbyButterslax":3h2msxgi said:
Sick! Violence/Jose on? You’re saying that the Cali is taking number 1, how does it compare to the slax from a. Metal standpoint? Im debating selling my butterslax to get one of these in the next batch, I reallllly like my Meshuggah, I prefer it soundwise for metal to my Slax and thinking that this would pair nicely

Thanks bro!
Violence (4th tube gain stage) is on. Jose is off. I really like the Jose on for lead work, off for the rhythms.
Cali is my favorite most days haha. When I want tighter and immediacy.
The fortin is so sharp and tight. But not too dry. I’ve spent a lot of time with it, and it’s paying off.
The slax still has a special place for me. It has such an amazing feel, but it’s juicier and richer.
It fills the metal that the fortin can’t do, and vice verse. I really like both for different reasons.
I don’t think I could let my slax go after getting it modded, too special now.
I would say, don’t sell it until you can play both in the same room. I’ve collected a few lately, to find out what really floats my boat. So I can compare directly with the same variables.
Fortin stuff is hard to beat for metal for sure!
 
LunatiBSW":2w6gwjxx said:
DeathbyButterslax":2w6gwjxx said:
Sick! Violence/Jose on? You’re saying that the Cali is taking number 1, how does it compare to the slax from a. Metal standpoint? Im debating selling my butterslax to get one of these in the next batch, I reallllly like my Meshuggah, I prefer it soundwise for metal to my Slax and thinking that this would pair nicely

Thanks bro!
Violence (4th tube gain stage) is on. Jose is off. I really like the Jose on for lead work, off for the rhythms.
Cali is my favorite most days haha. When I want tighter and immediacy.
The fortin is so sharp and tight. But not too dry. I’ve spent a lot of time with it, and it’s paying off.
The slax still has a special place for me. It has such an amazing feel, but it’s juicier and richer.
It fills the metal that the fortin can’t do, and vice verse. I really like both for different reasons.
I don’t think I could let my slax go after getting it modded, too special now.
I would say, don’t sell it until you can play both in the same room. I’ve collected a few lately, to find out what really floats my boat. So I can compare directly with the same variables.
Fortin stuff is hard to beat for metal for sure!

I keep seeing stuff that is hinting that he’s putting out an Evil Pumpkin amp, i think I’ll keep the Friedman and get that one as well
 
FourT6and2":1wfb8jzx said:
Sounds great!

:rock: :thumbsup:

DeathbyButterslax":1wfb8jzx said:
LunatiBSW":1wfb8jzx said:
DeathbyButterslax":1wfb8jzx said:
Sick! Violence/Jose on? You’re saying that the Cali is taking number 1, how does it compare to the slax from a. Metal standpoint? Im debating selling my butterslax to get one of these in the next batch, I reallllly like my Meshuggah, I prefer it soundwise for metal to my Slax and thinking that this would pair nicely

Thanks bro!
Violence (4th tube gain stage) is on. Jose is off. I really like the Jose on for lead work, off for the rhythms.
Cali is my favorite most days haha. When I want tighter and immediacy.
The fortin is so sharp and tight. But not too dry. I’ve spent a lot of time with it, and it’s paying off.
The slax still has a special place for me. It has such an amazing feel, but it’s juicier and richer.
It fills the metal that the fortin can’t do, and vice verse. I really like both for different reasons.
I don’t think I could let my slax go after getting it modded, too special now.
I would say, don’t sell it until you can play both in the same room. I’ve collected a few lately, to find out what really floats my boat. So I can compare directly with the same variables.
Fortin stuff is hard to beat for metal for sure!

I keep seeing stuff that is hinting that he’s putting out an Evil Pumpkin amp, i think I’ll keep the Friedman and get that one as well

Get them all!! :D
Yeah I’d prob try the pumpkin if he comes out with it. At least you know you can sell it for what you put into it, if you don’t like it.
The Cali is really badass though. The clean is awesome. It can do amazing rhythms and leads , can get old school rock. But the reason most of us buy this amp, the metal tones, which are the bread and butter, and prob the favorite of my lineup.
The loop is crazy good, if not one of the best ones I’ve used. I can’t think of anything it’s lacking honestly.
 
mhenson42":9g54fpet said:
Sounds awesome :rock:

Must control the GAS :doh: :lol: :LOL:


Matt! I think you’d love this amp :rock:
Tight, cutting, bright. The attack is lightning fast :D

saxxamafone":9g54fpet said:
:rock:
that sounds killer! Love it :thumbsup:

Thanks so much :rock:
 
How many preamp tubes on these? I didn't take the back of TexMarks. The website says 3 but if the tone stack is of the cathode, like a Jose, the math isn't there to get 4 gain stages. The claimed the meshuga was 4 gain stages, but it's not. Just curious
 
Sounds great dude! I love my Cali and at one point I thought it was the king of my amps... then one day I was A/B'ing the shit out of em and for me the Slax won it but not by a huge margin. I felt the Friedman mids is what really put it ahead. Prob best not to compare since they both kick so much ass :lol: :LOL:
 
errrrrl":2h54g8uo said:
Sounds great dude! I love my Cali and at one point I thought it was the king of my amps... then one day I was A/B'ing the shit out of em and for me the Slax won it but not by a huge margin. I felt the Friedman mids is what really put it ahead. Prob best not to compare since they both kick so much ass :lol: :LOL:

True words my friend.
They are both pretty different.
Just best to keep both and know they both kick ass :rock: :lol: :LOL:
I get inspired by both on separate days. One day could be the slax, one day the fortin......
 
scottosan":3kqs4c90 said:
How many preamp tubes on these? I didn't take the back of TexMarks. The website says 3 but if the tone stack is of the cathode, like a Jose, the math isn't there to get 4 gain stages. The claimed the meshuga was 4 gain stages, but it's not. Just curious


It’s got 3 12ax7’s. Build is amazing.
If the loop is solid state, can’t you still get 4 tube gain stages from 3 preamp tubes?
His violence mod has always been an extra tube stage?
On the Cali, you can engage the Jose-or not, so it’s not on all the time like the Meshuggah?

w5RXr4vl.jpg
 
Sounds great. Thanks for posting the vid. It's good to hear the amp in the room. Cant hear the strings so it must be fairly loud..hehehe!!! Thinking I'd dig this Cali!! Seems to have good mids, in this clip not to low mid driven, so it's going to give a good 80s and beyond metal palette it seems. Tight amp bro!!! :rock:
 
LunatiBSW":1clqvh9m said:
scottosan":1clqvh9m said:
How many preamp tubes on these? I didn't take the back of TexMarks. The website says 3 but if the tone stack is of the cathode, like a Jose, the math isn't there to get 4 gain stages. The claimed the meshuga was 4 gain stages, but it's not. Just curious


It’s got 3 12ax7’s. Build is amazing.
If the loop is solid state, can’t you still get 4 tube gain stages from 3 preamp tubes?
His violence mod has always been an extra tube stage?
On the Cali, you can engage the Jose-or not, so it’s not on all the time like the Meshuggah?

w5RXr4vl.jpg

The loop is probably just an insert loop. So no tube (and not solid state). To get 4 gain stages out of three preamp tubes like in these hot-rod Marshall circuits, you need to drive the tone stack from the tube's plate instead of using a cathode follower. But I'm not sure how you could make it switchable. Unless the 4th gain stage is from a transistor or something like that. I think the curiosity comes from the fact that with the Meshuggah, they said it had 4 gain stages when it doesn't. And now they're saying this amp has a 4th, switchable gain stage.

The Hiwatt Super-Hi 50 has a 4th gain stage that is switchable, for example. But also has 4 tubes. If this amp has that 4th gain stage switchable but also a plate-fed tone stack, that would be interesting.
 
LunatiBSW":26e1mdl2 said:
scottosan":26e1mdl2 said:
How many preamp tubes on these? I didn't take the back of TexMarks. The website says 3 but if the tone stack is of the cathode, like a Jose, the math isn't there to get 4 gain stages. The claimed the meshuga was 4 gain stages, but it's not. Just curious


It’s got 3 12ax7’s. Build is amazing.
If the loop is solid state, can’t you still get 4 tube gain stages from 3 preamp tubes?
His violence mod has always been an extra tube stage?
On the Cali, you can engage the Jose-or not, so it’s not on all the time like the Meshuggah?

w5RXr4vl.jpg

Meshuggah has a push/pull for the Jose like the Cali too man
 
DeathbyButterslax":1y3j63my said:
LunatiBSW":1y3j63my said:
scottosan":1y3j63my said:
How many preamp tubes on these? I didn't take the back of TexMarks. The website says 3 but if the tone stack is of the cathode, like a Jose, the math isn't there to get 4 gain stages. The claimed the meshuga was 4 gain stages, but it's not. Just curious


It’s got 3 12ax7’s. Build is amazing.
If the loop is solid state, can’t you still get 4 tube gain stages from 3 preamp tubes?
His violence mod has always been an extra tube stage?
On the Cali, you can engage the Jose-or not, so it’s not on all the time like the Meshuggah?

w5RXr4vl.jpg

Meshuggah has a push/pull for the Jose like the Cali too man

My bad, makes sense, that’s why I put a ? There. Cause I didn’t know.
 
:inlove: :inlove:

Wow that sounds incredible. Was waiting to hear some palm mutes and when those triplets kicked in I had to stop listening to type this. Will go back and relisten to it all. Sounds incredible, I love the in the room clips best over a studio mix.
 
LunatiBSW":fab3dwmv said:
Tight, cutting, bright. The attack is lightning fast :D
Definitely sounds like it. This is probably the best Fortin clip I have ever heard tbh. The tone is stellar and it does sound like it would sit in a band mix very nicely.

How is the low end on this amp? I know that is what a bass is for but I still love when a guitar cab kicks you in the chest if desired.
 
Beandust":3j5bzys9 said:
Sounds great. Thanks for posting the vid. It's good to hear the amp in the room. Cant hear the strings so it must be fairly loud..hehehe!!! Thinking I'd dig this Cali!! Seems to have good mids, in this clip not to low mid driven, so it's going to give a good 80s and beyond metal palette it seems. Tight amp bro!!! :rock:

Thanks bro!
It was loud for sure. Not crazy loud though. This amp doesn’t have to be cranked to get the goods.
I love this amp. It has lots of high mid grind.
Very articulate gain also.
 
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