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Gitfiddler
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Would want the mp-1 chorus too 
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CaseyCor
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I've always wanted an MP-1. Maybe I'll pick one of these up. Would work well with my Amplitube setup I'm running now, and would look real nice next to my Tube Driver 
threadkiller
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I took mine (mp-1 rackmount) out of my storage bin last week and started running it into the effects return of a peavey classic 30 head I have. Sounds great. Had a lot of fun messing with it again. Problem is its old and shit is breaking. The input jack got where it was very intermittent and my tech says its some kind of funky jack that is not available anymore. Can't remember exactly what it does special but he was able to work around it. The level pot was intermittent as well and he was able to clean it up and get it working though it is still scratchy. This was all four or five years ago. When I hooked it up the other day I tried to plug a delay pedal into the effects loop and the jack broke right off in my hand. No biggie, never understood why a rack unit needed a loop anyway other than if you needed the level control so I just ran it after the output. One of the chincey plastic output jacks is broken on mine as well. Anyway you get the picture. It's getting old and shit is going out on it. Mostly stuff that can be fixed or worked around but unless you are good with doing this kind of stuff yourself it starts getting expensive for a unit that is only worth a few hundred bucks. Still, it definitely has the tone. Agree, unmodded mp-1 is the way to go.
Anyway, back to the point, I think the pedal is cool but I can't see plopping down $400 bucks for it. Still, a lot of effects pedals these days are over $200, especially the boo-tic type pedals. I guess its not too crazy a price. I'm thinking when my mp-1 rack gets to where it just doesn't work anymore I'll scrap it or sell it for parts and just not have one anymore. Oh, well. Not sure what my point is
Anyway, back to the point, I think the pedal is cool but I can't see plopping down $400 bucks for it. Still, a lot of effects pedals these days are over $200, especially the boo-tic type pedals. I guess its not too crazy a price. I'm thinking when my mp-1 rack gets to where it just doesn't work anymore I'll scrap it or sell it for parts and just not have one anymore. Oh, well. Not sure what my point is
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guitarobert
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Would be really interesting to hear if anyone with the rack unit can compare them. Always wanted to try one of these and it would be great to get that tone in a new package.
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Yku
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Elric":2osonu7c said:
Well even though I agree with the fact that the original MP-1 was REALLY well done and thought out and all it only needed was a noise mod...That doesn't make the attempts of modding MP-1 to access other tones fruitless.
I was part from the ADA forum where all these mods came to life and the idea was exactly that: Giving people more options.
The 80's philosophy behind the original MP-1 didn't provide tones for the rectifier-type, scooped-mids loving metalheads from the 90's and beyond...Hence the creation of the 3.666 mod.
The Mod4 was an attempt to more closely emulate the tone of a JCM800.
A lot of people will come and say: Well just buy a damn JCM800 head!!
But the idea is to have these tones in a single rack unit, not digitally emulated, with some real tube action and the choice of storing countless different patches.
Same for the Rectifier type mod.
Same for the 3TM that was based on a Langner tube pedal. Of course changing the tone of the original MP-1 (That was the whole idea!!!), getting a very high-gain preamp that had virtually no noise (Given the gain produced) and running on 3 tubes.
I own a lot of ADA gear...And almost every incarnation of the MP-1 mods.
Sadly, there seems to be no way to perform an actual mod that could get rid of the rather high noise floor on the original MP-1...Many tried. They got it better, but still not to a point where the issue could be considered fixed. A good friend of mine which designs hi-end world reknowned guitar stuff (Amps, pedals, preamps, you name it) and always had ADA's products in high esteem told me that the problem is hardly solvable because it has to do with the coexistence of the digital and analog domain in the same box, a lot of components that are sub-standard by nowadays specs and other things like common ground and Kelvin points being hard to balance out.
I still use my original MP-1...The Clean Tube channel is my favorite.
But I also dig my MP-1 Classic.
For the effects loop feature on the MP-1, I always thought it was a great idea: You can leave your favorite effect in there always on and use the Effect's loop MIDI on/off switch to create patches where the loop is either on or off, thus activating (Or not) the said effect.
Kapo_Polenton
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Well if they have been able to address the noise concerns and durability concerns (that is what has kept me from buying one on the cheap, they always seem to have this or that not working but the "unit still sounds great"!) , then this could be a welcome addition to my amp collection. Love to have the tone of the 80's at my fingertips.
What I am seeing missing here though, is an effects loop. How would that work? If I am using the poweramp of my jcm800 with a metro loop in it, can I get some delay and chorus between there as well? That after all, is also part of the 80's sound!
What I am seeing missing here though, is an effects loop. How would that work? If I am using the poweramp of my jcm800 with a metro loop in it, can I get some delay and chorus between there as well? That after all, is also part of the 80's sound!
Greazygeo
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Kapo_Polenton":y493ef8w said:
Gtr to pedal input......pedal output to delay/ chorus pedal input.....delay out to power amp in....about that easy.
Kapo_Polenton
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Good point... makes sense. Not enough sleep last night because I should have thought of that. This would cut down on a cable or two by just having one long ass cable running into the loop and all your effects at the feet. I dig it.
Greazygeo
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I ran my old MP1 basically the same years ago. But had a Hush IICX in the programmable loop to kill the noise on the distortion. Ran the MP 1 outputs to a Digitech harmonizer---quadraverb then into two JMP 2203's that had power amp inputs installed. Out to a couple 4-12's. Sounded pretty good at the time. A lot to carry around though.Kapo_Polenton":17qp1ts9 said:
Rev
Active member
Any idea of release date? I'll definitely pick one up and put it in front of a two notes cab as a back up to my KSR/Rhodes rig.
beachbum
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It should be posted on the site's webshop within a week
beachbum
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It's on the site now guys: http://adaamps.com/Products/ada-MP1/MP1.htm
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Hamer95USA
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No thanks to the new ADA MP-1 channel. I know they're trying to revive their product line and make things accessible to all people, but I'll keep my ADA Depot 3TM "Ultra mod" MP-1 preamps before I buy that. My 3TM modded MP-1 preamp absolutely kills!!
Guitar George
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Hamer95USA
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threadkiller":27qpuswa said:I took mine (mp-1 rackmount) out of my storage bin last week and started running it into the effects return of a peavey classic 30 head I have. Sounds great. Had a lot of fun messing with it again. Problem is its old and shit is breaking. The input jack got where it was very intermittent and my tech says its some kind of funky jack that is not available anymore. Can't remember exactly what it does special but he was able to work around it. The level pot was intermittent as well and he was able to clean it up and get it working though it is still scratchy. This was all four or five years ago. When I hooked it up the other day I tried to plug a delay pedal into the effects loop and the jack broke right off in my hand. No biggie, never understood why a rack unit needed a loop anyway other than if you needed the level control so I just ran it after the output. One of the chincey plastic output jacks is broken on mine as well. Anyway you get the picture. It's getting old and shit is going out on it. Mostly stuff that can be fixed or worked around but unless you are good with doing this kind of stuff yourself it starts getting expensive for a unit that is only worth a few hundred bucks. Still, it definitely has the tone. Agree, unmodded mp-1 is the way to go.
Anyway, back to the point, I think the pedal is cool but I can't see plopping down $400 bucks for it. Still, a lot of effects pedals these days are over $200, especially the boo-tic type pedals. I guess its not too crazy a price. I'm thinking when my mp-1 rack gets to where it just doesn't work anymore I'll scrap it or sell it for parts and just not have one anymore. Oh, well. Not sure what my point is
I would get a new level pot, replace the broken effects loop and output jacks, and convert the rear balanced line out into a rear input jack.
Guitar George
Kapo_Polenton
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Are they planning to do demos any time soon? They need to generate some buzz around this thing... I am interested but not willing to pull the trigger until I see it delivering the goods.
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nigelpkay
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I just bought an ISP Stealth power amp to go with my unpowered Kemper, but I've been thinking about getting a preamp pedal of some sort.
At one time I had a Blackstar HT Dual pedal which has one 12ax7 tube, it sounded good but I needed another boost peda in front of it to tighten it up which I didn't like.
I was planning on getting the ISP Theta preamp, but I like having actual preamp tubes in the path and this looks cool.
At one time I had a Blackstar HT Dual pedal which has one 12ax7 tube, it sounded good but I needed another boost peda in front of it to tighten it up which I didn't like.
I was planning on getting the ISP Theta preamp, but I like having actual preamp tubes in the path and this looks cool.
chunktone
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I was expecting more. I loved my MP1 back in the day. Toured with it, a sonic maximizer and a Mesa 295 for years. I just seems a bit off to be going after recreating this, but with no programmability. That's what set the MP1 apart.
Kapo_Polenton
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I think the design might have been enhanced by the foot switch being able to go from off-on clean - on OD1- on OD2 to at least provide three options at your foot. You would much like the TC electronic flashback pedals, be able to store your patch for the clean/OD1/OD2. Still though, this will still be cool if it delivers the tone of the original rack mounts.
thiswaythatway
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I had an MP1 rack back in the early 90's. I thought it was the greatest thing ever until I started playing in bands. I used a Mosvalve power amp. I played with a dude who had jcm800 and the MP1 was buried. Same thing when I played with a guy who had a Recto halfstack when they first came out.
Rack was sold soon after and it seems racks quickly became extinct around 1992-93.
Rack was sold soon after and it seems racks quickly became extinct around 1992-93.
Elric
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This is a good point wrt noise floor. It would be nice to have the tone but not the noise. The compact form factor, newness, and lack of noise might be viewable as a value added. But, I still think the price is too high for this thing to ever be much more than an oddity, ADA is an old timer's brand @ this point (and it is niche rather than vintage in that respect, IMHO) and used units still abound cheaply.Kapo_Polenton":3dajetf5 said:
And we know danyeo isn't buying one.
