Adam Jones VH4 Channel 3 settings

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Vin Diezel said:
I've been listening to Tool for 25 years.
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the first album is 1992. i guess the original fans only like Opiate and Undertow and they think Aenima was a sellout, because there is actual hits on it ;):D
 
MetalGOD84 said:
Fear Inoculum was my first album, I remember I got it on iTunes because at the time Tool was not available on music streaming. It is for me the best Tool album, I feel like musically its the top of their career.

Last year I saw them live, it was probably the best concert i've seen in my life.
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I though about this with Metallica. If you started with the black album or later, you don't feel "the sellout" / "going mainstream".
if you started with fear inoculum, that's defines tool for you and you don't get any of the "recycled riffs" / "nothing new" @Vin Diezel criticizes.
 
Vin Diezel said:
Yes, indeed. I gave another listen to the album whose name I can never remember, fear inoculum,
As impressive as some may find it, I hear recycled riffage, laboured songwriting, endless meandering, laboured transitions from riff to riff, no new harmonic information - basically 3-power-chord harmony everywhere. And don't get me started on Adam's solo playing. It's really nothing special not to say boring in comparison to what Robert Fripp did back in 1970..
Of course, there's the drums, some good hooklines and Maynard's unique voice, but it has not been a proper band for a along time.
I see why Paul D'Amour left. This writing process of writing a song without getting a song must be tedious.

The fact that Portnoy did not understand Pneuma's drum groove, does not automatically make the song some kind of masterpiece.
Is Giant Steps a masterpiece because I am to stupid and lazy to solo over the changes?
Maybe it is one because Coltrane can solo over such an etude in a way that it sounds like a song.
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i wouldn't go as far and call Adam Jones interplays "soli";):D
 
MetalGOD84 said:
Fear Inoculum was my first album, I remember I got it on iTunes because at the time Tool was not available on music streaming. It is for me the best Tool album, I feel like musically its the top of their career.

Last year I saw them live, it was probably the best concert i've seen in my life.
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If you did not hear all the previous album before, your experience is of course very different.
Somebody that has listened to the 5 or 6 albums that came before for many years knows the recipe in and out.
Including a Maynard that did things he does not do anymore.
I think that is pretty obvious.
I saw them live just before the latest record came out. The show was good, but when they played one of the new unreleasd songs all the energy went away. It was a drag. But, of course, that is my experience and that of my wife. For someone who did not know the old songs, everything might have sounded fine.

Smashing Pumpkins played before them. It was the same with Corgan. When they played old material it was great, but the newer songs were just such a bore. I do not even remember what album that was. The song is really the most important thing, that's what I learned that day.
 
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valve said:
the first album is 1992. i guess the original fans only like Opiate and Undertow and they think Aenima was a sellout, because there is actual hits on it ;):D
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Yes, MJK, a hooker with a penis. ;-)
I find that not justified. You can dislike Aenima if you think that TOOL should sound as on Opiate, but Aenima is not uninspired recycling of old riffs.
I do not the critizise TOOL for doing something new or unexpected or creating a new sound, but rather the opposite.
It is obvious that they worked hard for years for the latest album and I respect that. But hard work cannot replace inspiration and ingenuity.
The fans who are pleased with the results can be thankful that those people did take on the burden of making an album without any real new idea.
That is really hard and probably not a lot of fun at times.
 
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Vin Diezel said:
Yes, MJK, a hooker with a penis. ;-)
I find that not justified. You can dislike Aenima if you think that TOOL should sound as on Opiate, but Aenima is not uninspired recycling of old riffs.
I do not the critizise TOOL for doing something new or unexpected or creating a new sound, but rather the opposite.
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i wasn't serious. Sober for example is a hit song.

I get you, i have that with other bands.
yes there isn't anything on fear inoculum that makes me want's to pick up my guitar and i wanna play or learn, or even one riff that pops in my mind right now. the stupid fillers after almost each song are also lame.

i still like to listen to it from time to time. i kind of like the slowness and feeling i get from the 6 actual songs. but yes, i don't want to see that live, could easily get into a borefest.
i don't need bands to change or still be experimental. hell i even listen to AC/DC power up from time to time. Of course it's more or less the same as the last few, and i wouldn't care if that album didn't exist.
 
Back to topic. I like Adam's settings and prefer them over the standard 12 o'clock settings.
I use his settings more or less on all 4 channels.
 
I’ve been into Tool from the beginning and like most guitar players his tone has evolved.
If you spend the time and search out the better live offerings you can get a better idea of Adams sound.
4degrees and Intolerance are too my ears awesome Marshall/dual rec ! Then there is a YT video of his isolated
guitar on Vicarious that is the Marshall/VH4 thing and that kills too !
 
SonVolt said:
I liked his Dual Rec era tone much better than the VH4.
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So did Adam. The rest of the band preferred the sound of the VH4 in the band mix.

About the time the Gibson endorsement happened we started seeing the Mesa amps again more often.
 
stephen sawall said:
So did Adam. The rest of the band preferred the sound of the VH4 in the band mix.

About the time the Gibson endorsement happened we started seeing the Mesa amps again more often.
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That's the first I've heard of that. Has Adam mentioned this in an interview somewhere?

I haven't seen him using any Mesa amps except for those weird Mark V shots on Instagram that were obvious product placement shots on Gibson's behalf.
 
I have a VHX and not a VH4 (but played one shortly) so the settings don't apply 1 to 1, but i can only push the mids hard if deep and presence are very high. but i tend to like a bit scoop or "neutral". but definitely not mids beeing the highest at least with my mesa trad. with 8Ohm V30s which is somewhat smooth and middy on it's own
 
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