Advice on 6x12; speakers an manufacture.

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I'm EXTREMELY interested in a 6X12. I'm thinking either Emperor or Verellen but I'm uncertain as to the speakers. I like the V30/G12-75 combo in my Marshall and would enjoy a change but don't want to risk spending the $ to hate what I decide. The Emperors have Jensens which I have NO experience with and the Verellen uses the Warehouse speakers or celestions...I play in a hardcore band and like THICK tone IE the Uberschall.

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Jonny
 
What band do you play in? Reign Supreme play Emperor cabinets and they sound fucking phenomenal, but they're standard 4x12s. They chose some strange speaker I had never heard of before. I play a Vader 2x12 on top of a 4x12 sometimes, Eminence Legends, but I play towards the metal-tinged and crust/d-beat sides of hardcore.
 
I play guitar in Trials (myspace.com/trials603) and those songs are off of our old EP when we tuned down to Bb..we're up in dropped C now. I played with Reign Supreme recently..I'm almost certain they're not using the Emperor cabs anymore..but I might be mistaken. I'm usually pretty keen on bands and their gear. I have played the Legend and HATED that speaker but I loved the Red, White, and Blue..which is odd because I usually don't like a speaker NOT to break up. Our new material is more in vein of Reign Supreme, Lionheart, Donnybrook, etc. I write all the material for the band so my heavy hardcore influence always bleeds through with the slow beatdown two steps and slow breakdowns.

Jonny
 
i am a 6x12 cab fanatic,..(of certain,..magical,...pixie dust filled ones anyway)...the SUNN, V-BAFFLED 6x12 is the mother of all cabs!!,..bar none!,..and it is the one piece of gear i regret selling the most,...i had the honor of using an old marshall 8x10 cab,..and was working on a deal with satan before it was sold out from under me,...guess my tarnished soul wasnt as worthy!...i tried a emporer 6x12 that was being sold localy on craigs list,...i went with cash in pocket,...my van my sg,...and a big smile,...i left with a heart as empty as my van,..i was crushed!!,..it sounded ok,..i guess,..but no magic with it,...he said it had greenback clones ,...i didnt open it up...used his peavey 6505+....but it just didnt have the SOUL of the SUNN or the MARSHALL,....too many factors to take a guess at,..construction?...wood??,...speakers???, his amp????....i have no idea,...but i did a ton of research on cab construction,..searched high and low for another SUNN 6X12,..no luck,..found a few MARSHALL 8X10'S,...but being in debt as much as i am in,..i couldn't afford to pull the trigger on one thats in salvageable condition (most of them have been rapped of the vintage speakers,..and by the time you put something of equal quality in there,...your talking the price of many souls!)

so more research,...and i built a copy of pete townsends infamous MARSHALL 8X12 MONSTER!!!,....FILLED IT WITH A 50/50 MIX OF VINTAGE GREENBACKS & SCUMBACKS (2 m75's & 2 h75's),....and to my utter joy,...the magic is there!!!,...oh thank god!,...YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW STRESSED OUT I WAS BEFORE I ACTUALLY PLAYED THROUGH IT FOR THE FIRST TIME!!!!,...i just sat in front of it,..smoking cigerettes,...coming up with excuses not to plug it in,..."oh,...gotta have new guitar strings!!,..what crazy man would even think of trying to play through it with 2 week old strings!!!"...."oh,..the glue hasnt fully cured yet!!!,...it was quite probable it would self destruct with out the proper curing time!!!!",...i shit you not!!,..my norosis prevented me from plugging and playing through the cab for 3 days after it was complete!!! i have experimented with a bunch of tweaks,..baffleing foam,...dividers,...fucking dividers,...good god,..i had it so i could divide every speaker individualy!...ha!.....but in the end,....it sounds by far the best with nothing in the cabinet but two 2x2 back board braces,....everyone i talked to told me it would be boomy and that the greenbacks would fart out and be buried by the scumbacks,...and nothing could be farther from the truth,...theres only 2 cabs on the planet i would trade for it,..SUNN 6X12,...or an original.....MARSHALL 8x12


sorry about my rambling novel of a post,...rock on ,..and try before ya buy!
 
No I actually REALLY appreciate your rambling. I've considered time and time again building my own 8X12 OR 6X12 but I can never convince myself to do it. I know what I want and if it were metal (I'm a welder) it wouldn't be a problem but wood isn't quite my specialty and I really want a rugged cab..so I don't know. I just need a mean cab..I really like the idea of the Verellen but love the idea of Emperor. I'll keep posted on what I decide.

Jonny
 
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