Amazon China Rubbish

[Stumplegriltskin]

About had it with China. They need a 14.7 Earthquake. Everything I buy is a POFS. Doesn't matter if it's Amazon, Wayfair, Walmart, or whatever. Bought 2 file cabinets in the past week. Both dented out of the box. One had no rollers on the drawer. Just plastic on metal. Made the mistake of ordering an under cabinet ratcheting paper towel holder a month ago. One of the ones that clicks when you dispense the paper towels, so the whole role doesn't unwind. Lasted 1 week. Ordered another. Lasted 2 weeks. Bought a metal one, just a basic under cabinet paper towel holder. Supposed to have 4 screw holes. The drill bit must have broke that day. Only 2 of the 4 holes drilled.

Every single fucking thing I buy, have to saw, drill, hack, weld, grind, dremel in order to get it to work. What do people do that have no fucking tools and are just those useless types that are only good for watching football, eating pizza and drinking beer on the couch do?

I can not find a decent fucking file cabinet unless I spend like $400, or build one. I'm sick of building shit though. Anyhow, rant over, feel so much better now.
Wana get me started on the amount of dead humidifiers I have in my attic? I go through 2 a year.

 

[rsm]

dents, probably UPS, FedEx, etc.,

I've been satisfied with my amazon purchases, I rarely go to walmart or target or order from them.

recently got a few things for my new bike: nice leather gloves, belt and vest; trickle charger, made in China. All had good ratings, and are worth what I paid.

waiting for delivery of new spark plugs and gap tool, probably made in China too, not sure

 

[Geo]

My last few experiences with Amazon were not good either. It seems like everything I order is a return from someone else. Missing parts, open packages, they must be sending out all the returns and hedging their bets that someone is just going to deal with it and not return it.

 

[rsm]

My last few experiences with Amazon were not good either. It seems like everything I order is a return from someone else. Missing parts, open packages, they must be sending out all the returns and hedging their bets that someone is just going to deal with it and not return it.

there are some sellers that are affiliates not actually amazon; have to see if it's "ships and sold by amazon"; or if an affiliate sells it, and amazon fulfils it.

I always check for this before I submit my order:

and in the past when I had problems, it was usually not Amazon

 

[Kordoba]

Hasn't happened to me as I haven't had any engines rebuilt, but I know there was a huge problem with Comp Cams and their cam/lifter sets, made in China. A lot of the lifters were not machined properly, so the cam and lifters ate each other. The debris would circulate and damage the engine to the point it would have to be removed and rebuilt for a second time.

 

[Geo]

Hasn't happened to me as I haven't had any engines rebuilt, but I know there was a huge problem with Comp Cams and their cam/lifter sets, made in China. A lot of the lifters were not machined properly, so the cam and lifters ate each other. The debris would circulate and damage the engine to the point it would have to be removed and rebuilt for a second time.

Comp Cams used to be my go to, how unfortunate.

Is Crane still around.

 

[Geo]

there are some sellers that are affiliates not actually amazon; have to see if it's "ships and sold by amazon"; or if an affiliate sells it, and amazon fulfils it.

I always check for this before I submit my order:

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and in the past when I had problems, it was usually not Amazon

Sound advice, I am sure no vendor wants to piss off Amazon.

 

[rsm]

Hasn't happened to me as I haven't had any engines rebuilt, but I know there was a huge problem with Comp Cams and their cam/lifter sets, made in China. A lot of the lifters were not machined properly, so the cam and lifters ate each other. The debris would circulate and damage the engine to the point it would have to be removed and rebuilt for a second time.

I'd guess they were priced inexpensively vs US made? Lot's of knockoffs being cheaply made. Sometimes it's worth a try, most times it's not. IME.

 

[Kordoba]

Comp Cams used to be my go to, how unfortunate.

Is Crane still around.

Not sure if Crane is still around. What I do know is the NOS/old school US made comp cams became desirable real quick.

 

[Kordoba]

I'd guess they were priced inexpensively vs US made? Lot's of knockoffs being cheaply made. Sometimes it's worth a try, most times it's not. IME.

I'm guessing it was the usual deal, where they moved production to China to keep the prices reasonable.

 

[rsm]

Sound advice, I am sure no vendor wants to piss off Amazon.

some do though; I've had things sent that were the wrong size, wrong color, the wrong item, empty packages, etc., I ordered on amazon, and had to return or request a refund through amazon. Amazon never gave me a problem getting a refund, even when I had an empty envelope with nothing in it (which I documented in the return info). This doesn't happen when it's "ships and sold by Amazon" IME

 

[84superchamp]

I have a recurring order with Amazon every month and no problems…until they enrolled me in Prime w/o my consent and had to opt out through their website. Sneaky.
As said above, it pays to check the products origin before ordering. Once ordered a MP3 player and it came from China, took a month to get here and was junk.

 

[rsm]

I'm guessing it was the usual deal, where they moved production to China to keep the prices reasonable.

ok, I've heard about that. The US companies don't provide direct oversight, training, specs, QC, etc., to the Chinese factory; they outsource it to a Chinese company, sign the contract and bad shit happens. I've had high end things made in China that were very well made and even flawless, but the brand/company in the US stayed on top of things in China.

 

[Laputan Machine]

Buy cheap, buy twice.

 

[Kordoba]

Buy cheap, buy twice.

Exactly. And if you can't do the work yourself or choose not too, you pay the labor twice as well.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

If it weren’t for Amazon and Zoro my house would be empty

 

[Stumplegriltskin]

Exactly. And if you can't do the work yourself or choose not too, you pay the labor twice as well.

Well the problem is where the F do you buy something and expect something decent without going next level? It's either cheap crap or high end. Nothing in between. I mean I spent 3 hours looking for a 2 drawer file cabinet for under a computer desk I'm building. I don't need office level quality, hence not wanting to spend $400, but FFS everything is rubbish. Since I'm building the desk, because I'm tired of MDF crap, I might as well build the fucking filing cabinet too, LOL.

Funny thing is, when I talk to people, they are so pacifistic towards China rubbish. They pollute the F out of the environment, have zero pride in their work, and produce nothing but garbage. Most of them. I had an Eastman and an Alvarez guitar that were better some Martins I've seen.

 

[Laputan Machine]

China makes a ton of shit so there will be good and bad... They are capable of making very high quality stuff (unfortunately). Chinese workers in manufacturing tend to be much harder workers than people in the US. Their companies are much more professional to deal with on average, at least in small potato manufacturing. It's pretty scary tbh.

 

[Monkey Man]

Buy cheap, buy twice.

 

[311boogieman]

It is shocking how much stuff we use directly or indirectly that is made cheaply in China. Yes they do make quality stuff too as @Laputan Machine pointed out. Problem is, most of the basic consumer type stuff we buy comes from China. It would be shocking to see what would be available to us if you could magically remove all Made In China shit that is in your life. Sad. Scary actually. We need to at least lesson our reliance on MIC.