amp growl

[Rick Lee]

Here's mine.

 

[petejt]

fuck I waffle on sometimes!

 

[311boogieman]

No modern high gain amp "growls". That sound comes from power tube distortion, which modern amps don't have. Go listen to a stock jcm800 cranked and you'll hear growl.

Wait. What?

 

[Bakonshakin]

I tried boosting the lower mid's with an eq pedal in the 125 - 250 range and it didn't necessarily create grow as much as just enhance the inherent growl in the amp. I was using a schecter c1 classic Jb Bridge, Rebel 30 MkII and celestion 1x12 gh30 speaker, mxr 10 band.

This combo of gear didn't exactly produce too much growl and when I switched speakers to a 1x12 v30 it was enhanced a tad bit, definetly a grittier sound.

Now what I found interesting was the amp growled most on D type chords. An open Drop D chord, D power chord and Dsus2 specifically. It must be the harmonic content created somehow by the notes in the scale? Because I tried other chords/power chords and there was much less growl.

Conclusion? Growl is from the sum of the parts and cant just be eqed in like I thought.

Side note... the Bogner Shiva Growls!

 

[FourT6and2]

Baron K2 series (in the video below, the K2 channel of the 'dual high gain' amp) is pretty growly in my opinion.

Wow. Yeah, that's some good growl. Sounds great!

 

[FourT6and2]

No modern high gain amp "growls". That sound comes from power tube distortion, which modern amps don't have. Go listen to a stock jcm800 cranked and you'll hear growl.

Wait. What?

lol yeah what he said was nonsense. If you go back and watch the clip of the VH4 I posted... lots of growl. Modern amp. So there's proof 1. And... in that clip the amp was at whisper mouse-fart volume. Zero power amp distortion. Proof 2.

 

[gtr31]

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No modern high gain amp "growls". That sound comes from power tube distortion, which modern amps don't have. Go listen to a stock jcm800 cranked and you'll hear growl.

Wait. What?

lol yeah what he said was nonsense. If you go back and watch the clip of the VH4 I posted... lots of growl. Modern amp. So there's proof 1. And... in that clip the amp was at whisper mouse-fart volume. Zero power amp distortion. Proof 2.

 

[Chester Nimitz]

Grrrrrr ....

 

[FourT6and2]

Psychodave's Cameron Jose clip has some perfect growl.

 

[Racerxrated]

Psychodave's Cameron Jose clip has some perfect growl.

Killer. My old Jubilee 50w combo boosted could get a similar growl through a G12 65 cab...

 

[petejt]

Psychodave's Cameron Jose clip has some perfect growl.

That's definitely "growling"! Has that fast trilling r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-rrrrrrrr...

 

[petejt]

Shit that thing is a BEAST!

Why can't these new metal bands use this sound? Why the appeal for that sproingy harsh rattling sound for "djent"-sounding songs? It sounds shithouse. YouTube is terrible for it.

 

[petejt]

Now what I found interesting was the amp growled most on D type chords. An open Drop D chord, D power chord and Dsus2 specifically. It must be the harmonic content created somehow by the notes in the scale? Because I tried other chords/power chords and there was much less growl.

Maybe a guitar's resonance is a factor?

 

[gtrplr71]

man, i was obsessing over the shiva tonight all night at work!!!!!!

damn...i gotta start hammering some overtime and get me that amp.....

i already am saving for a kemper....the GAS continues.

there is Bogner XTC combo for $1750 on Austin CL. it was a head conversion that bogner sent him

 

[Chester Nimitz]

 

[SFW]

When I think "growl" I think of Doug Aldrich's tone on the Whitesnake DVD. It's definitely in the mids.

 

[LPHeaven68]

When I think "growl" I think of Doug Aldrich's tone on the Whitesnake DVD. It's definitely in the mids.

I agree 100% I've used this as a starting point many a time

 

[FourT6and2]

When I think "growl" I think of Doug Aldrich's tone on the Whitesnake DVD. It's definitely in the mids.

I agree 100% I've used this as a starting point many a time

I don't hear any growl in that clip. Just MEEDLEY MEEDLEY MEEDLEY MEEDLEY WEEEEEEEEE

 

[Chester Nimitz]

.....lol

 

[the4thlast1]

Fast forward to like 5:40 when he starts playing on channel two .....20th Shiva has growl !

https://youtu.be/-f3ANIms07U