Amps with channel switching delays......(Mesa Boogie)

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How frustrating. I have a Mesa Rectoverb v.2 that I absolutely love other than one glaring problem. The stupid channel switching delay! It's probably a quarter of a second and it's so damn frustrating, especially if you are playing something with quite a bit of switching going on. Is there an actual fix for this? :aww:
 
japetus":1dtczacn said:
How frustrating. I have a Mesa Rectoverb v.2 that I absolutely love other than one glaring problem. The stupid channel switching delay! It's probably a quarter of a second and it's so damn frustrating, especially if you are playing something with quite a bit of switching going on. Is there an actual fix for this? :aww:

Plus a nice POP to go with it! Couldn't stand that shit on my old Dual Recto. Its gone by the wayside though.

Steve
 
steve_k":1r0qpoyv said:
japetus":1r0qpoyv said:
How frustrating. I have a Mesa Rectoverb v.2 that I absolutely love other than one glaring problem. The stupid channel switching delay! It's probably a quarter of a second and it's so damn frustrating, especially if you are playing something with quite a bit of switching going on. Is there an actual fix for this? :aww:

Plus a nice POP to go with it! Couldn't stand that shit on my old Dual Recto. Its gone by the wayside though.

Steve


I don't get a pop, just the delay. I had a Dual Recto that I never had problems with, but this is really frustrating me. I love the tone, just not the damn switching! :(
 
One of the many, many reasons I sold my Marshall TSL100 combo.

It was this delay, swell-out-swell-in garbage. Totally unacceptable.
 
I have heard that before by more then a few people. I think Mesa uses optocouplers to switch the amp and there is most definitely a delay when using them but I didn't think it was that long!. Im not sure how you would fix that. Some people say that using the optocouplers was a design flaw and that they should have used FET's. Usually when you get a POP it's because the optocouplers went bad and that can be fixed. Not sure about the lag time though.
 
Gainfreak":5ak6wdxz said:
I have heard that before by more then a few people. I think Mesa uses optocouplers to switch the amp and there is most definitely a delay when using them but I didn't think it was that long!. Im not sure how you would fix that. Some people say that using the optocouplers was a design flaw and that they should have used FET's. Usually when you get a POP it's because the optocouplers went bad and that can be fixed. Not sure about the lag time though.


Oh, Good GOD, not the optocouplers!!!!!!!!!!!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
:hys:
 
HGainiac":2aixcwwr said:
Gainfreak":2aixcwwr said:
I have heard that before by more then a few people. I think Mesa uses optocouplers to switch the amp and there is most definitely a delay when using them but I didn't think it was that long!. Im not sure how you would fix that. Some people say that using the optocouplers was a design flaw and that they should have used FET's. Usually when you get a POP it's because the optocouplers went bad and that can be fixed. Not sure about the lag time though.


Oh, Good GOD, not the optocouplers!!!!!!!!!!!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
:hys:

:hys: :hys: :hys:

You are the only other person on this planet who knows the story of the optocouplers!!!

For anyone wondering, Harry and I were lectured by an amp tech about how bad optocouplers are by an old amp tech! The guy rambled on for about 40 minutes about how evil they were and he said that boogie sucked for using them......no joke!

~R~
 
Gainfreak":3as5sp1o said:
HGainiac":3as5sp1o said:
Gainfreak":3as5sp1o said:
I have heard that before by more then a few people. I think Mesa uses optocouplers to switch the amp and there is most definitely a delay when using them but I didn't think it was that long!. Im not sure how you would fix that. Some people say that using the optocouplers was a design flaw and that they should have used FET's. Usually when you get a POP it's because the optocouplers went bad and that can be fixed. Not sure about the lag time though.


Oh, Good GOD, not the optocouplers!!!!!!!!!!!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
:hys:

:hys: :hys: :hys:

You are the only other person on this planet who knows the story of the optocouplers!!!

For anyone wondering, Harry and I were lectured by an amp tech about how bad optocouplers are by an old amp tech! The guy rambled on for about 40 minutes about how evil they were and he said that boogie sucked for using them......no joke!

~R~

It's odd in how their newer amps have the delay too, I've heard the Roadsters do this often. I never had a switching issue with my RoadkingII or my Mark IV though.
 
Yeah, never had the problem with the Mark IV...maybe I should get it back from my friend. :lol: :LOL:
 
cyndicate":1fat48l6 said:
Gainfreak":1fat48l6 said:
HGainiac":1fat48l6 said:
Gainfreak":1fat48l6 said:
I have heard that before by more then a few people. I think Mesa uses optocouplers to switch the amp and there is most definitely a delay when using them but I didn't think it was that long!. Im not sure how you would fix that. Some people say that using the optocouplers was a design flaw and that they should have used FET's. Usually when you get a POP it's because the optocouplers went bad and that can be fixed. Not sure about the lag time though.


Oh, Good GOD, not the optocouplers!!!!!!!!!!!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
:hys:

:hys: :hys: :hys:

You are the only other person on this planet who knows the story of the optocouplers!!!

For anyone wondering, Harry and I were lectured by an amp tech about how bad optocouplers are by an old amp tech! The guy rambled on for about 40 minutes about how evil they were and he said that boogie sucked for using them......no joke!

~R~

It's odd in how their newer amps have the delay too, I've heard the Roadsters do this often. I never had a switching issue with my RoadkingII or my Mark IV though.


Im not sure why they are still using the optocouplers! I don't think the MKIV or roadking uses them which is why there isn't much of a delay when switching. I never had a problem with my IV either.
I also think that this day and age there should not be a noticeable delay when switching..why boogie thinks this is OK is beyond me.
 
japetus":1lw5eyvs said:
How frustrating. I have a Mesa Rectoverb v.2 that I absolutely love other than one glaring problem. The stupid channel switching delay! It's probably a quarter of a second and it's so damn frustrating, especially if you are playing something with quite a bit of switching going on. Is there an actual fix for this? :aww:

The newer Recto versions are using relays with a muting circuit to take care of the popping when changing channels. The older Rectos used LDRs for switching.
Cheers,
Mike
 
FortinAmps":1xm6e6hc said:
japetus":1xm6e6hc said:
How frustrating. I have a Mesa Rectoverb v.2 that I absolutely love other than one glaring problem. The stupid channel switching delay! It's probably a quarter of a second and it's so damn frustrating, especially if you are playing something with quite a bit of switching going on. Is there an actual fix for this? :aww:

The newer Recto versions are using relays with a muting circuit to take care of the popping when changing channels. The older Rectos used LDRs for switching. The good news is there is a work around for this issue. If you are comfortable with adding a few resistors and pulling one leg of a FET, I'll be happy to provide you that information. Hit me on my email mike at fortinamps dot com
Cheers,
Mike

you mean no optocouplers? Im crushed!!! (that;s actually good news I guess!)
 
LDRs = optocouplers and if you have 45 minutes today, I will tell you of the evils of them as well :lol: :LOL:
 
FortinAmps":59r80g2s said:
The newer Recto versions are using relays with a muting circuit to take care of the popping when changing channels. The older Rectos used LDRs for switching. The good news is there is a work around for this issue. If you are comfortable with adding a few resistors and pulling one leg of a FET, I'll be happy to provide you that information. Hit me on my email mike at fortinamps dot com
Cheers,
Mike

How cool is that. :thumbsup:

There are threads started on the Boogie Board all the time complaining about the channel delay.

One guy over there had like a 4 second delay when switching channels but only after the amp had been on and warmed up for awhile :lol: :LOL: , and it turned out that one of the resistors involved in the channel switching was located near something that generated heat and when the amp got hot the resistor changed value and increased the delay and had to be replaced. :lol: :LOL:

My Roadster has about a half second delay when switching, it personally doesn't bother me but that's very cool there is a fix out there for people who need it eliminated. :rock:
 
Gainfreak":24hv8t31 said:
For anyone wondering, Harry and I were lectured by an amp tech about how bad optocouplers are by an old amp tech! The guy rambled on for about 40 minutes about how evil they were and he said that boogie sucked for using them......no joke!

~R~

Octocouplers are nothing. It's the Giant Octocouplers that you need to be afraid of. Fortunately, they're only found in deep waters and pirate movies.
 
Bob Savage":1qsfm26i said:
Gainfreak":1qsfm26i said:
For anyone wondering, Harry and I were lectured by an amp tech about how bad optocouplers are by an old amp tech! The guy rambled on for about 40 minutes about how evil they were and he said that boogie sucked for using them......no joke!

~R~

Octocouplers are nothing. It's the Giant Octocouplers that you need to be afraid of. Fortunately, they're only found in deep waters and pirate movies.
:hys:
 
BEWARE :rock:

Giant-octopus.jpg
 
FortinAmps":21ocphpr said:
japetus":21ocphpr said:
How frustrating. I have a Mesa Rectoverb v.2 that I absolutely love other than one glaring problem. The stupid channel switching delay! It's probably a quarter of a second and it's so damn frustrating, especially if you are playing something with quite a bit of switching going on. Is there an actual fix for this? :aww:

The newer Recto versions are using relays with a muting circuit to take care of the popping when changing channels. The older Rectos used LDRs for switching. The good news is there is a work around for this issue. If you are comfortable with adding a few resistors and pulling one leg of a FET, I'll be happy to provide you that information. Hit me on my email mike at fortinamps dot com
Cheers,
Mike


Very cool of you. I am frankly scared to do ANYTHING with electronics but I will give you a call later and maybe you can talk me off the ledge! :lol: :LOL:
 
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