Any1 here use SUHR minimix2 or RJM mini mixer in serial loop

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Hi guys , if any of you here uses the Suhr Minimix2 or RJM Mini mix in your serial loop , to convert a to a parallel loop , can you please answer this? Without your fx in that mixer, i.e. ONLY the line mixer hooked up , does you amp sound 100% exactly how it sounded before putting that mixer in there? Not just sound 100% but FEEL 100% the same?

Thanks for any info

Eric
 
ericb":3vyb65dt said:
Hi guys , if any of you here uses the Suhr Minimix2 or RJM Mini mix in your serial loop , to convert a to a parallel loop , can you please answer this? Without your fx in that mixer, i.e. ONLY the line mixer hooked up , does you amp sound 100% exactly how it sounded before putting that mixer in there? Not just sound 100% but FEEL 100% the same?

Thanks for any info

Eric

Well no reply yet, so how about this: Does anyone actually own either of these and use them and reallllly like them? :)

Eric
 
Have you searched? Seems like somebody here has used the Suhr one?
 
Capulin Overdrive":3hk8dhvr said:
Have you searched? Seems like somebody here has used the Suhr one?


I searched the net quite a bit, and don't see the answer to my original question :) I have a few series loops that I'd like to convert but won't do it , if it isn't worth it. AND to be worth it to me , it basically needs to leave my original sound AND FEEL alone , otherwise, it's just more gear to set up at gigs and not worth it for me . I do have a few amps with series/parallel options that already kick ass!

Thanks! Eric
 
ericb":6mz81obu said:
ericb":6mz81obu said:
Hi guys , if any of you here uses the Suhr Minimix2 or RJM Mini mix in your serial loop , to convert a to a parallel loop , can you please answer this? Without your fx in that mixer, i.e. ONLY the line mixer hooked up , does you amp sound 100% exactly how it sounded before putting that mixer in there? Not just sound 100% but FEEL 100% the same?

Thanks for any info

Eric

Well no reply yet, so how about this: Does anyone actually own either of these and use them and reallllly like them? :)

Eric

I seem to remember MrDan666 had one, he's on UK schedule though and a night owl at that.
 
I've used the Suhr Minimix and mini mix 2. To be honest I've never tried to see if it was 100% exactly the same as without the mixer. I can tell you that I am very fussy and the Suhr stuff sounds great. I will experiment and report back to let you know.

Mark
 
Mark Day":29nyb1x9 said:
I've used the Suhr Minimix and mini mix 2. To be honest I've never tried to see if it was 100% exactly the same as without the mixer. I can tell you that I am very fussy and the Suhr stuff sounds great. I will experiment and report back to let you know.

Mark

That would be so cool if you would! THANKS.

Eric
 
Ok I test the amp (OD100se+) with the Minimix1 in and out of the loop....I could not tell any discernable difference, to me anyway, not noticeable. :)

I was not cranked and I was playing with CH2 (dirty channel).

Mark
 
you should not experience any tone change with either of those units. if you do, your series loop isn't 100% series..
 
Eric,

I had a MiniMix and I can say it is a definite improvement running the FX through it in a series loop. But, to answer your question, yes - there was still a bit of tone change and feel with it plugged into the loop and without any FX plugged in. Anytime you break the signal flow from the preamp, something is going to change. Not sure which amp and which loop you are contemplating, but the change is noticeable. Almost like simply jumping the send/return with a straight cable will get you some change in feel. The MM should be constantly returning dry tone to the signal path, which it does, there will be a little loss in the processing and in the actual set up of the loop for line/inst. levels or both. The loop is going to be reprocessing dry tone as wet tone and the MM passing that processed tone back as dry tone. All that said, the MMII is a fine piece of gear and works well with what it was meant to do.

Steve
 
steve_k":2px47rlz said:
Eric,

I had a MiniMix and I can say it is a definite improvement running the FX through it in a series loop. But, to answer your question, yes - there was still a bit of tone change and feel with it plugged into the loop and without any FX plugged in. Anytime you break the signal flow from the preamp, something is going to change. Not sure which amp and which loop you are contemplating, but the change is noticeable. Almost like simply jumping the send/return with a straight cable will get you some change in feel. The MM should be constantly returning dry tone to the signal path, which it does, there will be a little loss in the processing and in the actual set up of the loop for line/inst. levels or both. The loop is going to be reprocessing dry tone as wet tone and the MM passing that processed tone back as dry tone. All that said, the MMII is a fine piece of gear and works well with what it was meant to do.

Steve

THANKS Mark, Casey and Steve. . The amps I'd use it with are a Baron K2 , a BFG-modded Marshall 100 watter, and/or a Bradshaw Marshall . Also have this wicked cool Engl Rackmount rare stereo amp with 4 el84's a side, that I LOVE but it only has a series loop and it's an ok loop too like the others, but I'd rather it be parallel and would like delay trails,etc. . I've been meaning to pick up either the Suhr or RJM, but as you sorta indicated above, I always get a little apprehension that although it'll convert fx to parallel , I'll end up losing some of my basic tone /feel by having it in the series loop . I'm picky about some stuff like that, but it's mainly because I hate having to keep bringing more and more gear to gigs I'm not sure if you guys play with bands that every band member sets up and tears down equally , but not me! Anyway , thanks for the info , and definitely sounds like it's worth trying and then I'll need to make up my mind if it's worth it!

Eric
 
ericb":24450oki said:
steve_k":24450oki said:
Eric,

I had a MiniMix and I can say it is a definite improvement running the FX through it in a series loop. But, to answer your question, yes - there was still a bit of tone change and feel with it plugged into the loop and without any FX plugged in. Anytime you break the signal flow from the preamp, something is going to change. Not sure which amp and which loop you are contemplating, but the change is noticeable. Almost like simply jumping the send/return with a straight cable will get you some change in feel. The MM should be constantly returning dry tone to the signal path, which it does, there will be a little loss in the processing and in the actual set up of the loop for line/inst. levels or both. The loop is going to be reprocessing dry tone as wet tone and the MM passing that processed tone back as dry tone. All that said, the MMII is a fine piece of gear and works well with what it was meant to do.

Steve

THANKS Mark, Casey and Steve. . The amps I'd use it with are a Baron K2 , a BFG-modded Marshall 100 watter, and/or a Bradshaw Marshall . Also have this wicked cool Engl Rackmount rare stereo amp with 4 el84's a side, that I LOVE but it only has a series loop and it's an ok loop too like the others, but I'd rather it be parallel and would like delay trails,etc. . I've been meaning to pick up either the Suhr or RJM, but as you sorta indicated above, I always get a little apprehension that although it'll convert fx to parallel , I'll end up losing some of my basic tone /feel by having it in the series loop . I'm picky about some stuff like that, but it's mainly because I hate having to keep bringing more and more gear to gigs I'm not sure if you guys play with bands that every band member sets up and tears down equally , but not me! Anyway , thanks for the info , and definitely sounds like it's worth trying and then I'll need to make up my mind if it's worth it!

Eric

Eric,

This little unit is pretty good too, from LA Sound Design. I run it on the pedalboard and a Timefactor through it and to/from an FX loop. It is primarily a pedalboard interface for that, but allows a parallel FX path along with the dry signal. And, it has two different buffers and isolated outputs to act as a splitter if needed. It will take stereo out/mono in FX too for some more versatility. You could also mount it in a rack drawer if needed.

Aviarylasounddesign-netPicture1.png
 
steve_k":ekcgurpy said:
ericb":ekcgurpy said:
steve_k":ekcgurpy said:
Eric,

I had a MiniMix and I can say it is a definite improvement running the FX through it in a series loop. But, to answer your question, yes - there was still a bit of tone change and feel with it plugged into the loop and without any FX plugged in. Anytime you break the signal flow from the preamp, something is going to change. Not sure which amp and which loop you are contemplating, but the change is noticeable. Almost like simply jumping the send/return with a straight cable will get you some change in feel. The MM should be constantly returning dry tone to the signal path, which it does, there will be a little loss in the processing and in the actual set up of the loop for line/inst. levels or both. The loop is going to be reprocessing dry tone as wet tone and the MM passing that processed tone back as dry tone. All that said, the MMII is a fine piece of gear and works well with what it was meant to do.

Steve

THANKS Mark, Casey and Steve. . The amps I'd use it with are a Baron K2 , a BFG-modded Marshall 100 watter, and/or a Bradshaw Marshall . Also have this wicked cool Engl Rackmount rare stereo amp with 4 el84's a side, that I LOVE but it only has a series loop and it's an ok loop too like the others, but I'd rather it be parallel and would like delay trails,etc. . I've been meaning to pick up either the Suhr or RJM, but as you sorta indicated above, I always get a little apprehension that although it'll convert fx to parallel , I'll end up losing some of my basic tone /feel by having it in the series loop . I'm picky about some stuff like that, but it's mainly because I hate having to keep bringing more and more gear to gigs I'm not sure if you guys play with bands that every band member sets up and tears down equally , but not me! Anyway , thanks for the info , and definitely sounds like it's worth trying and then I'll need to make up my mind if it's worth it!

Eric

Eric,

This little unit is pretty good too, from LA Sound Design. I run it on the pedalboard and a Timefactor through it and to/from an FX loop. It is primarily a pedalboard interface for that, but allows a parallel FX path along with the dry signal. And, it has two different buffers and isolated outputs to act as a splitter if needed. It will take stereo out/mono in FX too for some more versatility. You could also mount it in a rack drawer if needed.

Aviarylasounddesign-netPicture1.png

Cool , looks nice, and my Psionic Audio Triad incorporated something like that too, when I had it! Whatever I get won't be used on a pedalboard though as I don't want more cables to the amp head.. The only reason I have never gone to a midi switcher system , with all the gadgets, is I constantly change my pedals depending on which amp I use or which gig. . both bands play different types of rock .. . SO I tend to use the tap dancing and OLD FAMILIAR approach. . Which I really should move on with and set up switching haha..

Eric
 
I will echo everything that Steve K said. I use the Surh MMII (when I'm not feeling lazy. haha), and it does help quite a bit in preserving that pure, dry tone.
 
RockStarNick":2tk5c7bn said:
I will echo everything that Steve K said. I use the Surh MMII (when I'm not feeling lazy. haha), and it does help quite a bit in preserving that pure, dry tone.

Thanks man! Just listened to your "Souls for Sale" and love it . .Also read the influences.. I hear some SPONGE in there as well , and also listen to "Let It Roll" By a band called DIVIDE the DAY . . They either got influenced by you , or you subliminally by them !:)

Eric
 
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