Anyone hear of Almighty Guitar Cabinets?

[crabby]

http://best-tronics.com/guitar-cable/amc.aspx

they are built right in to a road case, wonder how they sound, the specs look good......

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

Madison has that option for an extra $125 with their 4 x12 cabs

 

[crabby]

anyone have or play the madison? I was looking hard into mills acoustics, but it would be nice to have the built in road case deal, instead of buying one of those after buying the cab.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

One of the bands I tech for has number 8 and 9 from the original run. loaded with g12k-100.its been about 7 years of heavy touring and the cabinets are still alive and running.

nothing special about the design marshall dimensions.

originally designed and built by the guitar players in Walls Of Jericho, patent sold to bestronics.

any specific questions?

 

[crabby]

do they sound as good as diezel or mills or stoneage or bogner....... the price is excellent the build quality looks right up there, and road ready is what i want, my other cabs are butchered from playin out.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

they do sound good but as you are comparing them to the highest end cabinets Id say no.

they are Marshalls in road cases.

no science just an indestructible cab.

 

[thegame]

I mean, just stuff a Marshall with cotton and you'll have a Bogner

You are completely wrong.

 

[jabps]

they do sound good but as you are comparing them to the highest end cabinets Id say no.

they are Marshalls in road cases.

no science just an indestructible cab.

It depends on what sounds good to you? Some guys like shitty Marshall cabinet tones. Just because it is a higher end cab does not always mean it sounds better. I mean, just stuff a Marshall with cotton and you'll have a Bogner

I love shitty Marshall cab tone...rock it all the time.

 

[Dallas Marlow]

Damn, seems like a lot of people like the shitty sound of marshall cabs what gives? I mean I know I do... but I'm a wack job.

 

[thegame]

I mean, just stuff a Marshall with cotton and you'll have a Bogner

You are completely wrong.

Yeah, I forgot about the logo.

Bogner - slightly bigger dimensions
- baffle is secured via a completely different method
- uses superior, void free Birch throughout, unlike the Marshall's swiss cheese "birch". Thats why the Bog weighs about 20 lbs more
- quality, 12 guage wiring used throughout
- no stupid caster cradles on top of it
- looks prettier
- sure as hell don't sound the same

You see now, they couldn't be more different

 

[crabby]

what does this all have to do with almighty cabs? I played a splawn cab yesterday, it was excellent,sb/bb pattern. Im not sure there is a hell of a lot more you can do with a cab, if it has excellent wood, and materials w top notch speakers, what else is left? My bassons are made of mdf and a/b ing them w the splawn it was night n day, the splawn had a warmer sound to it.... i ran my herbert,vh4 and nitro thru it. It looks like almighty cabs use the same high grade materials as others, so what gives?

 

[moltenmetalburn]

they do sound good but as you are comparing them to the highest end cabinets Id say no.

they are Marshalls in road cases.

no science just an indestructible cab.

It depends on what sounds good to you? Some guys like shitty Marshall cabinet tones. Just because it is a higher end cab does not always mean it sounds better. I mean, just stuff a Marshall with cotton and you'll have a Bogner

well I realize i didn't elaborate at all, and that can be misleading. it could appear that I believe cost equals tone. some manufacturers build cabinets designed for sound reproduction, others build large boxes to hold speakers.

I really was comparing a Marshall to a diezel, mills, stone age and bogner. just trying to answer his question. I have experience with all but the stone age. The Marshall cabinet in my opinion sounds like boxy shit. I have NEVER heard one i liked. especially with the damn g12-75 icepicks installed. and the directionality of that cab; it disappears off axis.

as for what sounds good to me, well good sounds sound good to me and bad sounds sounds bad as I have the experience and ear to know/hear the difference. My friends/bands call me an audiophile, i tell them Its just that I can actually hear . I wear ear plugs at every practice and live show they don't. (and somehow they are all always using way too much treble )

In the end the only opinion that matters is your own. particularly if your a bedroom rockstar. I have known/seen many a player who grins from ear to ear truly satisfied while playing through rigs making tones similar to wailing cats in heat being run over by steamrollers. not pleasant at all but They ARE happy.

lets not even get into live tones. i can count the players on one hand that I have head set up an amp to sound perfectly in the mix from the get go. 99% of players bring their bedroom/ practice room tone to the stage. far too much bass, scooped mids, and piercing highs. while this may kick you in the nuts while chugging away in your bedroom you'll be positively lost once you hit the stage.

then there is the Fletcher munson curve. don't set up your tone at home at a whisper volume in order for the baby to sleep and expect it to sound the same at ear shattering decibels at the local bar on saturday night. bleh im just rambling now....

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

they do sound good but as you are comparing them to the highest end cabinets Id say no.

they are Marshalls in road cases.

no science just an indestructible cab.

It depends on what sounds good to you? Some guys like shitty Marshall cabinet tones. Just because it is a higher end cab does not always mean it sounds better. I mean, just stuff a Marshall with cotton and you'll have a Bogner

I love shitty Marshall cabinets tone.

Me to

 

[crabby]

why are marshall cabinets shitty anyway? are they any diff than a splawn? i played thru one of those, it was excellent. I ll be putting non shitty heads thru these herbert, vh4, and a nitro....

 

[jabps]

why are marshall cabinets shitty anyway? are they any diff than a splawn? i played thru one of those, it was excellent. I ll be putting non shitty heads thru these herbert, vh4, and a nitro....

Crabby I owned a Splawn 4x12 w/GH30's (nice cab) and I prefer both my Shitty Marshall 4x12's...one even loaded with the ultra shitty GT75's. And my good friend who's tracking right now and runs an Ecstacy 101b & the Bogner 4x12 just borrowed my Shitty Marshall Greenback loaded cab to cut all the guitars...go figure.

 

[crabby]

Well, I guess its all opinion, there are some bad cabs out there, but a lot of marshall and marshall type cabs being used to record and play live.Im looking at the specs on other cabs, what is really being done diff, except a lil size added? mills adds a special baffle ,but what is in a diezel cab for 1700 bucks thats going to be better than, " X " brand?

 

[jabps]

Well, I guess its all opinion, there are some bad cabs out there, but a lot of marshall and marshall type cabs being used to record and play live.Im looking at the specs on other cabs, what is really being done diff, except a lil size added? mills adds a special baffle ,but what is in a diezel cab for 1700 bucks thats going to be better than, " X " brand?

Exactly right. I don't think I've every owned a bad sounding cab...whether it be a Splawn, Boogie, Peavey, Orange, Marshall or Mojave. In fact when I was settling on my last amp I ran it through various 4x12's including the above mentioned Bogner and my fav cab was an little bit older Marshall 4x12B with Greenbacks...so I bought it, saved a ton of money. Got another great deal on a slightly used Marshall 4x12 slant w/ 75's and I bought that as well...and it sounds great as well and I sold the Splawn.

Now that's just me, my opinion. Bogner are incredible cabs, no doubt but all the cabs I've owned or borrowed have been good cabs. However the single best cab I have ever owned...where it literally made me sit back and go damn, was the Mojave 4x12 with GH30's. Unfortunatley for me I lost that cab along with my whole rig along with my Splawn QR in a fire several years back. Since I was replacing the QR I just decided to get a matching Splawn cab...w/GH30's. Great cab but I preferred the Mojave. Long story short when I switched to Marshall amps, the Marshall cabs sounded just as good as anything I tried so it made my choice easier, and since I prefer matching gear it was a no brainer. I'd still like to buy another Mojave one day but I'm fine right now.

For me, if I was cab hunting...I'd would check out the Mills. Mainly because what they are doing is different than other manufacturers...most of which are basing they're design off a Marshall. I would also check out Stone Age because that's all John does...hand builds cabinents and those Beast cabs look interesting. And my personal recommendation the Mojave 4x12.

Then again IMO, you can't go wrong with Marshalls, Bogners, VHT's or the new 5150 cabs. All sound great to my ears.

And if you really want to spend the dough ala Diezel, check out the Kerry Wright cabs.

As an aside, I don't know if Mojave makes they're cabs or sub contracts them out ala Bogner, CAA etc... May even be the same guy. One thing I found very interesting on the Mojave 4x12 was it did not have a center post and yet did not woof out or vibrate.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

Well, I guess its all opinion, there are some bad cabs out there, but a lot of marshall and marshall type cabs being used to record and play live.Im looking at the specs on other cabs, what is really being done diff, except a lil size added? mills adds a special baffle ,but what is in a diezel cab for 1700 bucks thats going to be better than, " X " brand?

Have you decided what you want out the cab first? It might be easier for you if you define some terms to base your choice on.

Also you should look into the science of a loudspeaker and its enclosure, if you understand a little better it will become clearer why something that seems as insignificant as a few inches in depth can make a big difference in the final sound result.

some good reading here:
http://www.duncanamps.com/technical/speaker_cab.html


Tone is subjective. go play some cabs and pick the one you like the best. forget the name the price the color the speaker, just plug your amp in and let your ears decide. When you've got goosebumps your done.

As for the Diezel you're paying a premium for the name and Peters ear. Sure they may have put alot of time into the design, built a new factory, and it may actually sound far better than other cabs but in the end it still just a wood box. Another cab built of the same quality materials is equivalent . they will just sound different . as tone in itself is subjective whos to decide but you which is better to your ear.

 

[crabby]

I just dont find a whole lot of room for change on a cabinet, its like trying to change a pick up truck.... A lot of these cabs id like to try, some I have, but playin in a store for 15 minutes at there volume , isnt the same as having it on your own time.I like the fact mills and stoneage only do cabs, so they particularly put all there effort there, However I like the price and road ready cases of almighty cabinets. My bassons after hearning them next to a splawn at my house was a big difference. its like the bassons are choking my amps, mdf? eminence legend speakers? I dont know.both of them? the splawn had bb/sm x pattern, its was warmer and more dynamic, i played it at stage volume for a good hour or so, thru all 3 of my heads. No I dont want a splawn, will the almighty cabs sound as good as the splawn, then yes, for live they will be perfect, esp at 600 bucks a cab.Now studio, hmmm maybe they will do the job also, but i guess itll be a sight unseen and unheard deal to get em. I believe the mills n stoneage will deliver, at a higher cost, but how much better will they be. I played a diezel and a bogner,they were nice, I wasnt blown away by something magical, however the k100s sound killer for our music style.Still , you have to go out n get roadcases at 4-500 bucks apiece more for any of the other cabs.......thats why im hopin the almighty cabs will deliver. Loaded with k100s, roadcase ready, and several hundred dollar savings is a nice package.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

is that 600 dollar almighty price loaded?