As Clown World Turns...

[TheGreatGreen]

No one's denying there's deviants and sickos on both sides of the isle. The glaring difference is how each side deals with it. One brands pedophiles as what they are and wants maximum punishment; the other makes excuses an wants to grant amnesty.

Yes, the liberals want to crucify any pedophile that is revealed to be one and bury them under the jail or just outright kill them, while conservatives would rather transfer them to be leaders of another church somewhere else, or put them on paid administrative leave and have their badges and guns suspended for a while until everything blows over.

Kidding. Mostly. Yes everybody hates pedos on all sides. But the fact that you genuinely, honestly think "the left" wants to make excuses for them and let them go reveals so much more about your misunderstanding of the world than anything else. Do you know where I got those photos I posted? I found them on imgur, which is one of the most left-leaning, liberal places on the internet. Every single one of those photos has a comment section, and every single one of those comment sections are filled with the most blue haired liberals and alphabet people you've ever seen, all mourning the kids that got hurt and celebrating that the people who got caught will be put away for a long time. I mean, it feels ridiculous to even type out something that obvious but at the same time it feels necessary here.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

But the fact that you genuinely, honestly think "the left" wants to make excuses for them and let them go reveals so much more about your misunderstanding of the world than anything else.

In some cases yes. There has been a push from some on the left to classify pedophilia as a sexual preference instead of a crime. It tends to get lumped in with the trans activism. That doesn't mean the entire left side wants that. But there is a vocal group who advocate for it and I haven't seen any left leaders speak out against that group.

 

[watson503]

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Yes, the liberals want to crucify any pedophile that is revealed to be one and bury them under the jail or just outright kill them, while conservatives would rather transfer them to be leaders of another church somewhere else, or put them on paid administrative leave and have their badges and guns suspended for a while until everything blows over.

Kidding. Mostly. Yes everybody hates pedos on all sides. But the fact that you genuinely, honestly think "the left" wants to make excuses for them and let them go reveals so much more about your misunderstanding of the world than anything else. Do you know where I got those photos I posted? I found them on imgur, which is one of the most left-leaning, liberal places on the internet. Every single one of those photos has a comment section, and every single one of those comment sections are filled with the most blue haired liberals and alphabet people you've ever seen, all mourning the kids that got hurt and celebrating that the people who got caught will be put away for a long time. I mean, it feels ridiculous to even type out something that obvious but at the same time it feels necessary here.

I understand the argument you're trying to make so this is just an observation...

The way your position is coming off; especially with the pages of what you deem as conservative child predators, is like you're arguing because conservatives do it too it somehow makes it okay or less worse when liberals do it.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Just so you know, saying "no true conservatives would do that" is what's known as the "No True Scottsman" logical fallacy, where a person redefines the terms of something until any negative versions of that thing "don't count" anymore. That's not really a valid argument. "Oh that person says they're a conservative but they diddle kids and conservatives can't diddle kids so clearly they're not a True Conservative, whew crisis averted, I can still say my team, the True Conservatives, are the good guys" etc. That's not really how that works.

Also come on now. If you don't think the vast majority of cops and clergy are conservative, you're being willfully ignorant or just disingenuous. Of course the vast majority of cops and clergy are conservative. Of course the vast majority, if not 99% of the people in those (recently taken, btw) photos are conservative. Hell just look at them. That is not an argumentative road you want to go down and you know it.

Also are you seriously suggesting because I haven't meticulously documented and sourced every single one of those thumbnails for the purposes of arguing in the bullshit off topic lol politics thread on Rig-Talk.com, then none of them can be legit? I'm not taking the bait on that one either.

Face it. The party of purity and family values is filled to the brim with corrupt degenerate perverts and sexually repressed, frustrated people looking to take advantage and assert power wherever and over whoever they can. Not every one of them is like this of course, but enough of them clearly are that it should be concerning to anyone who just trusts blindly in conservatism, and enough that it should be obvious to anybody that all these idiotic "only liberals would do disgusting thing X, Y and Z" claims are just retarded.

No, I’m saying that you are making a claim and using as proof of that claim an internet meme that misleadingly assumes any cop or preacher who is a pervert is a conservative. Which is a fact. And again, I’m not making ANY claim other than that the premise that all cops or clergy are conservative is complete, provably false bullshit.

I said nothing about “ true conservative”. The only one using fallacy to allegedly prove their argument here is you.

 

[Geo]

HAHA yeah man keep arguing in bad faith against what I obviously didn't say as an attempt to deflect from the pages and pages of conservative pedophiles you... seem to be trying to protect and defend now, apparently? Probably not the winning strategy you think it is.

Then again if you really tried to genuinely argue against the truth staring you in the face right there, the conversation would stop, and you're too proud for that aren't you.

I get the feeling someone has touched you in your no no spot without your permission.

And I also get the impression you have some useless gobernment job like a second grade teacher.

 

[Geo]

Most of Antifa are trans psycho's on SSRI's.

 

[Findthetone1]

If only all us Good Conservatives could band together to stop liberals from hurting kids, because clearly only liberals do that and conservatives would never!

And you know these are conservative people how?

Took a while to dig all that shit up to try and defend a head up your ass comment, didn't it?

 

[TheGreatGreen]

I understand the argument you're trying to make so this is just an observation...

The way your position is coming off; especially with the pages of what you deem as conservative child predators, is like you're arguing because conservatives do it too it somehow makes it okay or less worse when liberals do it.

The original sentiment here was along the lines of "all conservatives are great upstanding people while all liberals are perverts at best, child perverts at worst" and so as a response, I posted pages and pages of images of clearly conservative people charged with and/or convicted for child sexual abuse to show how wrong that kind of thinking is. Conservative members of the community charged with protecting it are arrested every day for these kinds of things.

Sorry man, but my point didn't even approach the same universe as "look at all these are conservatives doing it as well so it's ok if liberals do it too" and I don't think any reasonable person would think that's what I was getting at. Again, the fact that you think that's what I was saying when I clearly wasn't shows quite a bit about your own biases.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

No, I’m saying that you are making a claim and using as proof of that claim an internet meme that misleadingly assumes any cop or preacher who is a pervert is a conservative. Which is a fact. And again, I’m not making ANY claim other than that the premise that all cops or clergy are conservative is complete, provably false bullshit.

I said nothing about “ true conservative”. The only one using fallacy to allegedly prove their argument here is you.

I never said ALL cops and clergy is conservative. That's not true. I am saying right now that the majority of those people are conservative. And if you genuinely think "well clearly the only cops and clergy who can abuse kids are EVIL LIBERALS because conservative ones could never do that" then I don't know what to tell you other than that I think you're delusional and will do whatever mental gymnastics you can do protect your world view.

 

[Findthetone1]

I am saying right now that the majority of those people are conservative.

And I ask, again, you have proof of that how?

 

[The Blazing Saddle]

The way your position is coming off; especially with the pages of what you deem as conservative child predators, is like you're arguing because conservatives do it too it somehow makes it okay or less worse when liberals do it.

EXACTLY! They (pedo loving libs) come up with terms like “love is love” or “MAP” (minor attracted persons) to justify their sick behavior. “All pedos”, no matter who they are should be castrated or shot for that matter. The sick libs will always look for a way to protect their own though, take a look into Hollywood for that matter.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

And you know these are conservative people how?

Took a while to dig all that shit up to try and defend a head up your ass comment, didn't it?

Seriously? I know those people are conservative because I don't blindly deny anything that doesn't cater to my own fragile world view, that's how. Are you really trying to tell me the people in the pages and pages of those cases I posted "weren't conservative" hahaha? And you think this because... kiddy diddlers are BAD and conservatives are GOOD so there's NO WAY those two groups could intersect? Buddy have I got some news for you... as long as you don't cover your eyes and ears and scream LALALALA until I go away that is.

Don't look now but at this point you're actually trying to protect pedophiles because you think they are on your political side. Un-fucking-believable. But unfortunately not unsurprising.

And no it didn't "take a while." I went to imgur and found the running tally they keep over there of conservatives who diddle kids while those same conservatives hypocritically cry about how it's only drag queens or whatever who could hurt a kid.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

And there you have it, everybody. Look above. A page full of conservatives falling over themselves to defend actual pedophiles by deflecting about how "actually those aren't conservatives, they're probably LIBERALS MORE LIKE IT HUEH HUEH and hey how can you prove those cops and clergy are conservative, hmmm?" because conservatives, as shown in the posts above, are more about being loyal to their group and subscribing to their group-think than actually trying to understand and do something about the real evils of the world.

 

[Geo]

And there you have it, everybody. Look above. A page full of conservatives falling over themselves to defend actual pedophiles by deflecting about how "actually those aren't conservatives, they're probably LIBERALS MORE LIKE IT HUEH HUEH and hey how can you prove those cops and clergy are conservative, hmmm?" because conservatives, as shown in the posts above, are more about being loyal to their group and subscribing to their group-think than actually trying to understand and do something about the real evils of the world.

I am sorry, did you say something?

 

[TheGreatGreen]

I am sorry, did you say something?

lol don't worry, everybody else not in your fun little conservative cheerleaders club can hear me just fine.

 

[Geo]

lol don't worry, everybody else not in your fun little conservative cheerleaders club can hear me just fine.

Imagine being the poor sap who is working all day, coming home and having to your liberal blabber.

I would rather have a lower colon transplant.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

The original sentiment here was along the lines of "all conservatives are great upstanding people while all liberals are perverts at best, child perverts at worst" and so as a response, I posted pages and pages of images of clearly conservative people charged with and/or convicted for child sexual abuse to show how wrong that kind of thinking is. Conservative members of the community charged with protecting it are arrested every day for these kinds of things.

Sorry man, but my point didn't even approach the same universe as "look at all these are conservatives doing it as well so it's ok if liberals do it too" and I don't think any reasonable person would think that's what I was getting at. Again, the fact that you think that's what I was saying when I clearly wasn't shows quite a bit about your own biases.

Well you just exposed your own bias or have a reading comprehension problem. I'm going to go with exposing your bias.

My remark was I understood your actual argument which was what you said in the first paragraph I'm quoting here. I followed that with an observation oh how your argument could be interpreted. But you appear to view me as a conservative. So your bias led you to the assumption that I thought you were saying "look at all these are conservatives doing it as well so it's ok if liberals do it too" when clearly that is not the case.

You're also showing your bias by continuing to insist that every single one of the people in the pictures are conservatives. Maybe you have some special ability to discern someone's political leanings from their profession? Maybe there's a written exam that doesn't allow liberals to be police officers, psychologists, pastors or teachers that I'm unaware of? Sure you could dive into their background to find out. But that's not what you're putting forth. You're assigning political beliefs to them based solely on a picture and profession.

Let's take police officers for example. This chart comes from a study done in 2023 on political diversity amongst police agencies. I don't know how you would interpret it, but it looks to be split pretty evenly to me. So how can you make the assumption that all the officers you posted are conservative; unless you add your own bias and ignore the facts?

*Edit* Added the footnotes to the table. Also wanted to note that the study's main focus was one on policing decisions as it related to political diversity. So naturally a measure of political diversity had to be done.

The fact of the matter is a pedo is a pedo regardless of political, social, religious, or any other leanings they may have. So how about you come down off that high horse and quit pretending you're all high an mighty lecturing down to the rest of us peons.

 

[Floyd Eye]

I never said ALL cops and clergy is conservative. That's not true. I am saying right now that the majority of those people are conservative. And if you genuinely think "well clearly the only cops and clergy who can abuse kids are EVIL LIBERALS because conservative ones could never do that" then I don't know what to tell you other than that I think you're delusional and will do whatever mental gymnastics you can do protect your world view.

Funny you accusing me of a fallacy while you’re throwing ‘em out left and right.

I pretty fuckin clearly said I had no data supporting an argument one way or another, but you continue to put words in my mouth. I’m under no illusions protecting any world view.

Trying to have a rational argument with you is a waste of time though.

 

[Floyd Eye]

And there you have it, everybody. Look above. A page full of conservatives falling over themselves to defend actual pedophiles by deflecting about how "actually those aren't conservatives, they're probably LIBERALS MORE LIKE IT HUEH HUEH and hey how can you prove those cops and clergy are conservative, hmmm?" because conservatives, as shown in the posts above, are more about being loyal to their group and subscribing to their group-think than actually trying to understand and do something about the real evils of the world.

While you do mental gymnastics to assert some sort of “whataboutism” in a blatant attempt to defend all your democrat politicians who are protecting pedophiles.