Ventura
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For those who've been waiting for the new Atomic stuff (I have been!!
https://www.facebook.com/atomicamps
Stoked.
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Stoked.
Shark Diver
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Aesthetically I think they will be cool for the Axe Fx guys. Interesting to see how they will fair tone wise. Don't even see the point of a passive cab though. At the point you would use a Matrix or other power amp it would seem a regular cab would give you the look, feel and tone people like from a cab.
What does CLR stand for? Clear?
What does CLR stand for? Clear?
Ventura
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CLR is an acronym for "Coincident Linear Response" speaker.
The purpose of a passive is to use a Matrix or Atomic or Fryette style poweramp. I've got a 2/90/2, but I've already signed up on the reserve list for 2 active wedges. I have no idea about stats or specs, I just know Jay Mitchell was involved in the process of R&D and I've had faith in Atomic from Day 1. I've not really gotten into the Mackie or RCF or QSC or anything of the like as, well, honestly, I'm ignorant about it all. But when Atomic came into the picture with these? I knew I'd have to have 'em. Honestly, it's going to be these two monitors that will give me what I'll need with the A2 to go full bore. I'm pumped.
And as for worrying about the specs, couldn't care less - I'm confident they'll be awesome out of the box.
The purpose of a passive is to use a Matrix or Atomic or Fryette style poweramp. I've got a 2/90/2, but I've already signed up on the reserve list for 2 active wedges. I have no idea about stats or specs, I just know Jay Mitchell was involved in the process of R&D and I've had faith in Atomic from Day 1. I've not really gotten into the Mackie or RCF or QSC or anything of the like as, well, honestly, I'm ignorant about it all. But when Atomic came into the picture with these? I knew I'd have to have 'em. Honestly, it's going to be these two monitors that will give me what I'll need with the A2 to go full bore. I'm pumped.
And as for worrying about the specs, couldn't care less - I'm confident they'll be awesome out of the box.
J
jcj
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Tom has always been good by me; glad to see this come together 
Shark Diver
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Ventura":1n6oveng said:
I get that, it would just seem at that point you would want a real guitar speaker because you are using a real amp. So, are you running a cab sim but not an amp sim? Because if the passives have the same speaker as the actives then they are made to be used with IRs. Just seems like a small market at that point. Most guys would already have cabs if they are getting an amp to use. At least that was my experience while at TM. But whatever. I think the look and familiarity of the throw of square cabs will be a big plus for guys that are missing that now.
Ventura
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Not yet. If you do some research, Jay and Tom put a YT vid out there at the beginning of this year talking about its power rating, weight, and so forth - but these were just for the prototypes. At this point, we know it's 600W power handling, and the real specs are coming in the next day or so. They're using their FB site as the Atomic website is getting a total overhaul and will be up and running inside this month. I spoke with Tom a week or so ago - and knew of the launch today, but the specs are still forthcoming. I'm stoked.Rezamatix":2fa07b6i said:
Agreed. I've got a lot of faith in Atomic - they've been there since the beginning.jcj":2fa07b6i said:Tom has always been good by me; glad to see this come together
You know, AS I TYPED MY REPLY I was sitting there mentally going "the guy knows exactly wtf the passive is for and how it works ya doofus, why the hell are you typing this". So for this, I apologize, and will deliver one swift, well weighted punch to my nutsack this evening in retribution. I hope that serves as a humble enough apology.Shark Diver":2fa07b6i said:Ventura":2fa07b6i said:CLR is an acronym for "Coincident Linear Response" speaker.
I get that, it would just seem at that point you would want a real guitar speaker because you are using a real amp. So, are you running a cab sim but not an amp sim? Because if the passives have the same speaker as the actives then they are made to be used with IRs. Just seems like a small market at that point. Most guys would already have cabs if they are getting an amp to use. At least that was my experience while at TM. But whatever. I think the look and familiarity of the throw of square cabs will be a big plus for guys that are missing that now.
The purpose of a passive is to use a Matrix or Atomic or Fryette style poweramp. I've got a 2/90/2, but I've already signed up on the reserve list for 2 active wedges.
But ya, you're kinda onto something there. I suppose the idea of the passive is that cats who already have the poweramp, won't need to buck up full tilt for the actives. What about centralized volume control? I dunno. I mean, I could easily go passive with my 2/90/2, but I want the full experience. That said, the 2/90/2 is one of the few tube driven poweramps that has enough headroom and clarity and linearity to accept the poweramp sim ON for all presets - without a problem. Atomic is pretty close to keeping that "cab vibe alive". And I like that about them. Of course, the real diff is the fact - here we go - that they're FRFR and meant to do the full chain - FX, amp block, poweramp, post EQ, cab, mic - all in one box.
Small market indeed. But I'm glad I spoke with Tom as I was simply calling him up to say "send me a couple active wedges" and he said "sure, but I'd recommend you wait just a week". That was good of him.
Shark Diver
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No nut punch necessary
Tom is good people. Met him a few times. Very nice. Looking forward to hearing these too.
Tom is good people. Met him a few times. Very nice. Looking forward to hearing these too.
Ventura
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ratter
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Wish these were around when I had an 11R. The tube-powered Atomics never made sense to me.
Ventura
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It did, however, make a lot of sense to people not wanting to cut the tube-driven umbilical cord. Hey, it's all good. They're in the mix now with what I feel to be exceptionally well priced models and Jay and Tom know their shit. Not to mention, first class customer care. I'm pumped!ratter":1zks2m2f said:
ratter
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Ventura":3vjdrd70 said:
Yeah, I'm not surprised they went that direction but if I'm running a modeler and FRFR one of the big benefits is no more dicking with tubes.
I'm much more interested in this new version, although I don't run a modeler anymore.
They look great and the price isn't horrible. One of coolest looking wedges I've seen.
Ventura
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Completely concur. And they're built from the ground up to be modeler monitors for guitarists. Unlike so many of the monitors out there that just HAPPEN to work well with, say, the A2. I'm stoked.ratter":2a6co7oc said:
Gainfreak
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Tom is awesome and I wish him more continued success.
I have been really looking into a FRFR system lately and I think I might end up with these.
Just to share some of my thoughts. When I used the original axe-fx ULTRA ,I didn't really dig it when going direct. I tried it and it did not work for me. I preferred to use it with a power amp and speaker cab. When Tom first came out with the Atomic amps, alot of people were looking to use a tube amp with a digital front end, so he came up with the tube based power. Now that things have progressed and FRFR isn't AS taboo and sounds much less direct then it did,(imho) I think Tom was smart to now offer the CLR's. IMHO he has all the bases covered.
The time has finally come for me where I don't really mind going direct lol. I think the technology has come a long way....or my way of thinking or ears have changed( Maybe both lol) But from now on with my Cover band, I'm going FRFR because I'm tired of lugging shit
As far as passives being offered, again, I think it's a smart move because some people might already have a power source that they would prefer to use or in order to save money, you could get one powered speaker and one passive and have the powered one power the secondary speaker.
Just my useless 0.02
I have been really looking into a FRFR system lately and I think I might end up with these.
Just to share some of my thoughts. When I used the original axe-fx ULTRA ,I didn't really dig it when going direct. I tried it and it did not work for me. I preferred to use it with a power amp and speaker cab. When Tom first came out with the Atomic amps, alot of people were looking to use a tube amp with a digital front end, so he came up with the tube based power. Now that things have progressed and FRFR isn't AS taboo and sounds much less direct then it did,(imho) I think Tom was smart to now offer the CLR's. IMHO he has all the bases covered.
The time has finally come for me where I don't really mind going direct lol. I think the technology has come a long way....or my way of thinking or ears have changed( Maybe both lol) But from now on with my Cover band, I'm going FRFR because I'm tired of lugging shit
As far as passives being offered, again, I think it's a smart move because some people might already have a power source that they would prefer to use or in order to save money, you could get one powered speaker and one passive and have the powered one power the secondary speaker.
Just my useless 0.02
zentman
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Price?
Ventura
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Far from useless. I agree with all your points - 100%.Gainfreak":11ov0dlr said:
$749 Passive - either wedge or cab.zentman":11ov0dlr said:
$999 Active - either wedge or cab.
Shark Diver
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I was in the loop at the time. They used tubes because they felt it sounded the best. I still use a tube mic pre with any digital I use for the same reason. I still contend that anyone that has a power amp already has cabs... And at just a $200 upcharge it would be silly not to just get the Actives and not drag a power amp around. But it is nice they offer the option. 
Tone bot with standing I think the more traditional look will appeal to a LOT of people. CLRs should sell well.
Tone bot with standing I think the more traditional look will appeal to a LOT of people. CLRs should sell well.
Ventura
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Agreed.
I think the frustrations over waiting for almost a year will quickly subside once these start getting shipped and played. I, too, after having researched so many different monitors, feel these offer immediate "comfort" in how they look, and the fact they come from a guitarist-centric company. At 1/2 the price of the current topdog RCF, I think they'll sell very well.
I think the frustrations over waiting for almost a year will quickly subside once these start getting shipped and played. I, too, after having researched so many different monitors, feel these offer immediate "comfort" in how they look, and the fact they come from a guitarist-centric company. At 1/2 the price of the current topdog RCF, I think they'll sell very well.
zentman
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Not bad on the price. Can the wedge sit up and act like a main if needed? Holes for stands? That would be great.
EDIT: Yes they can. Quick look at the picture told me that. Time to sneak some money in to my secret fund.
EDIT: Yes they can. Quick look at the picture told me that. Time to sneak some money in to my secret fund.
lester
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Ventura":2hwzmdo4 said:
Hey V - Are you going with two of these? I see a lot of these guys running one of the wedges, and at 600 some odd watts, maybe one is enough.
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Atomic Amps
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Hi Dave! The Atomic Reactor Series stuff always offered both active and passive versions of both the wedges and cabs. The actives are much more popular (IMHO the way to go for a variety of reasons) but there has always been a market for the passives. Since we're not offering a tube powered version we were especially conscious about people who really wanted this option.Shark Diver":1cbrb2br said:
CLR Stands for Coincident Linear Reference
The goal of creating this new line was to let people hear exactly what was coming from their modeler/profiler/preamp etc. It's like having a very reference quality studio monitor that can deliver continuous stage volume of 120dB+ and still maintain linear performance.