Attention Bruce And Jeff...

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I know that you guys have been really busy with the Tourmaster launch, moving around the shop, etc. And we're also aware that you both have been fiddling with the idea of a Mesa Boogie style module. I just wanted to take a moment to remind you that many of us on this forum not to mention hundreds of other MOD50 owners, if had one available, would snag one of them up in a heartbeat. Please don't take this the wrong way, but as a friendly reminder of how eager we are for one. :D So, without further ado... I collected quotes from various threads that reference the desire for a Mesa Boogie Mark Series style module (yeah, I know I'm a loser and have way too much time on my hands):

richedie":2z78kamy said:
Next on my list, the new COD! Is that the model supposedly going to be like a Mesa Mark series?

richedie":2z78kamy said:
I HOPE they do create a Super COD that is Mesa-esque, that will be on my list.

richedie":2z78kamy said:
So if the MHG is out and the EG5 in!....what would be considered the modern high gain module for modern high gain tones? The E-Rec? EG-5? Maybe some new Mesa mod on the way?

richedie":2z78kamy said:
I am thinking I would go SL2 and eventually I want a Mesa Boogie module and hope they make a new Mark series module.

richedie":2z78kamy said:
Don't know what I would get next - EG3/4 or SL2. I want both, plus a T/D! I also hope they make that super Mesa (Mark series) hehehe...

richedie":2z78kamy said:
Are they really making a gained up new COD model? That could be amazing......like a Mesa Mark series all gained up?!

muudrock":2z78kamy said:
+1 Yes, please share how the "Gained up" COD is coming along?????

jmgman69":2z78kamy said:
I thought I would just get this started for Jeff :D So he can report on the new and inproved COD...........How"s it comin?

jmgman69":2z78kamy said:
Thats the "word"I can't wait!!!!!

mentoneman":2z78kamy said:
the C+OD! it's cool that the upgrade will shift towards the mark IIC+ but i would also like to see a refinement towards the dumble thing...

jmgman69":2z78kamy said:
Cod report please? :D

richedie":2z78kamy said:
That would be a great module. I think for guys who have the MOD 50 it is nice having enough gain in the channel A for a variety of styles and responsive enough when rolling back the gain to copy lighter rock styles while having an EQ that is geared toward rhtyhm. Channel B could have an EQ geared more toward lead, hence more midrange. The EG3/4 sounds close but not enough gain in the 3 channel. The Mark-type module with a IIc rhythm tone (Metallica) & IV lead tone (Petrucci) would be perfect. :thumbsup:

bduersch":2z78kamy said:
Gotta agree with that... a Mark-type module with a IIc rhythm tone (Metallica) & IV lead tone (Petrucci) would be my top pick. I played Mesa (Triaxis, Mark III/IV, others) for years, and there's nothing in the Egnater lineup that really cops that tone/feel.

chode7":2z78kamy said:
Engl SE or Powerball high gain
Diezel VH4 high gain
Hiwatt DR504 distortion
Bogner Uberschall high gain (duh)
Rivera K100/KTRE/TBR series preamp high gain
Sunn Model T distortion
+1 VHT (Deliverance or Pitbull)
+1 Mesa IV
+1 Orange
+1 Matchless

Granted all of the above would have the Egnater twist. Even though I generally use high gain amps, I roll the gain almost all the way back (between 9-11 o'clock depending upon which of the above). I'd especially love a Rivera-ish module. I wish I hadn't sold my K100. 'Twas a sad day...

bstaley":2z78kamy said:
Mesa Mk II/IV
:rock:
Yes please!!!

bstaley":2z78kamy said:
I think Egnater has just about every flavor of Marshall covered, unless he directly wants to copy somebody elses stuff. The one thing he doesn't have is the "Mesa flavor" of a metal tone. The COD to me sounds more like the mid gain Boogies. If I was playing a Santana song I would go to the COD for example.

spakuloid":2z78kamy said:
I am just curious for those of you who want a MESA MK II/IV module - exactly what part of that sound can you not get out of the COD or the DELUXE module? I mean to me the COD module covers that territory pretty well (minus the graphic EQ) but - forgive me of my ignorance as it has been a while since I've played one - I thought part of the sound of the Mark series Boogies is the power tube section and the wood cabinets. I mean - why can't you run a different set of power tubes and speakers and nail that tone with the COD ?

bstaley":2z78kamy said:
When I think a perfect MKIV high gain tone I think of something like this:
http://www.mesaboogie.com/gallery_artis ... ucci3.html

I cannot get my COD to sound like that. There is not quite enough gain and the bottom end is too loose. The COD is actually growing on me, but it cannot sound anything like the tone in this video.

When I think of MKIIC+ sound I think Master Of Puppets.

If Bruce could get Petrucci's lead tone and Metallica's rhythm tone in one module he would take over the world.
:thumbsup:

guitarslinger":2z78kamy said:
I gave this some thought:

we all want:

mark 2, 3, 4, etc.

the secret of these was a pre-gain tonestack with a post gain, active, graphic EQ . This might be a challenge for a module.

I'm just sayin. It might require an Additional EQ MODULE.

YES!

guitarslinger":2z78kamy said:
mesa mark 3/quad/studio type tone? :yes:
Bogner Fish Brown Channel :yes:
Jazz Chorus clean w/chorus, Solid state? yes! :yes:

EWSEthan":2z78kamy said:
I agree. Its really a lead players module. The description on egnater.com mentions Dream Theater and you wouldnt want to play any of Petrucci's rhythms on the COD. His leads yes, but rhythm no. I think the description is a little misleading. The way the module is voiced, its very much for leads. It IS high gain and has sustain for days, but not high gain in any sort of metal riffing way (which is fine because its not supposed to be). Just dont expect to pop in this module and start playing Metropolis Pt 1. You will be disappointed.

bstaley":2z78kamy said:
Well, I just placed my order for a M4 loaded with T/D, SL2, EG5 and COD modules. Should be here by the end of January. I hope it's everything I'm expecting. How many of you guys have the COD? That's the only module I'm somewhat on the fence about. I'm hoping it can get the "liquidy", "petrucci-esque" Mesa type lead sound.

AdamB":2z78kamy said:
Thanks man!!

Looks like i'll be getting an ERECT, SL2, EG3/4 and an EG5 :D

My bareknuckle ceramic warpig is really going to shine through these too, i know it!!!

Any ideas on that Mesa module?

EWSEthan":2z78kamy said:
Sounds like a candidate for the Mark IV high gain based module to me.

EWSEthan":2z78kamy said:
If you are more partial to the Mark Mesa tone, you can try COD but I dont think it will do what you are looking for. The only other option is waiting to see if the Egg tone chefs can cook up the much anticipated high gain Mark inspired module, "Super COD". Maybe you can convince Jeff to cancel is vacation and get that done for us? :lol: :LOL:

EWSEthan":2z78kamy said:
As far as we know, the only thing that has been disclosed is that they are experimenting with a gained up COD / Mark IIC+/IV lead module. It may or may not happen and if there are any other modules in the works, they arent saying yet.

EWSEthan":2z78kamy said:
The specific purpose of the proposed "Super COD" is for the guys who want Mesa Mark IIC+ / IV since the current COD gets the job done quite well for the blues Dumble guys.

mentoneman":2z78kamy said:
i don't think that there's anything "wrong" with how the COD sounds as is,
but it's more a perception thing...lotsa guys thinking California OverDrive means mark IIc+ mesa tones, which goes up to metallica/dream theater grind,

when all along i took COD to mean more dumble tones, ala fuchs/two rock/brown note/glaswerks/bruno/snider/bludo...

EWSEthan":2z78kamy said:
I think its clear the high gain Mark module idea is a winner in the eyes of the Eghead faithful. I dont think we need graphic EQ and all that stuff to be honest. Just the regular Bass, Middle, and Treble on the module. I trust that Team Eggie would voice the module nicely so we dont have to worry about EQing all that much. I mean, honestly, most of these modules you could leave everything at Noon and they sound great. These guys have a great ears.

I have no idea how to build amps, but I think in the current form of the dual channel modules with Team Eggie this has got to be possible. I mean, these guys are tone magicians. I think the major roadblocks are time and priority with everything else theyve got going on.

aeroic":2z78kamy said:
+1 on that. I agree that although it looks cool to have the Graphic EQ in concept, I think in reality Bruce and Frank know how to make killer tone! And that a standard looking module will kick some major booty. I would love to have a Mark module in my arsenal as just another tone.

For me, I can get a VAST amount of tones w/ the T/D, VX, SL2, and EG5 in my main rig today. I would just love to have the option of a little more Mark metal / hard rock tone :)

jmgman69":2z78kamy said:
You guys here this Jeff..............Mark tones

EWSEthan":2z78kamy said:
+1 its not just lack of gain. COD channel B has a pretty good amount actually. Its voicing and feel. The COD is awesome at what it does. But I dont think it sounds anything like a Mark IV's lead channel.

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aeroic":2z78kamy said:
jeff:

the gain is one of the problems w/ the COD modules I agree. But moreso, its the voicing that is the biggest issue. It really sounds more "old school" boogie which I really like for bluesy stuff, and some poppy rock lead tones. But where I see the need is a more aggressive boogie sound (not the rectifier sound) but moreso the Dream Theater / Chevelle / Metallica type of tone that has a great midrange growl which is more modern sounding than the COD. The COD is a great module, which I find VERY useful for leads and rockin bluesy stuff, but I agree with others that the voicing (for heavier rock / metal) is just not there. I really love the EG5, but I find at times I would like a more aggressive sounding also that's very tight and punchy like the EG5, but more voiced in the Mark IIc+ and Mark IV type of settings.

NuSkoolTone":2z78kamy said:
BIG +! on a Mark IIC+ Rhythm/Mark IV lead sound.

Instead of a "Bass boost" Like on the two Channel mods I'd have a mid Gain switch (Ala Mark IV) That is switchable (I'd like the availability to select for both channels possibly)

I actually OWN a Mark IV and it's my Main gigging amp. However this module done right could make me jump to the two channel bandwagon. (Currently I have an RM4-RT2/50 and a few Egnater single modules, I don't gig with it because it's CRAZY heavy!)

The one thing that HAS to be right is the attack. I find the Egnater attack adequate, but not like the Boogies. (Personally) I'd want a pick attack that will KNOCK YOU OVER like a ton of bricks! Put the Bass control POST gain so it doesn't flub up. The "mid Gain" (Maybe have the Mid EQ knob pre-gain?) switch will help you choose more of a scooped sound or the very VOCAL midrange sweet lead sound the mark is known for.

Lastly, I'm a "Half V" kind of guy, meaning I do NOT boost the high end (This is my issue with Boogie's "Contour" switch on some of their amps), so perhaps that is where the "Bright Switch" would apply whether you want the high end of the "V" Engaged. I Find myself making a VERY DEEP "Half V" though, mids sucked real low.

I mean a Graphic EQ would certainly be cool, but doable? Who knows. Basically, High Gain pretty scooped Rhythm channel and a mid boosted lead channel both with a strong pick attack and VERY articulate.

TheRegime":2z78kamy said:
But having a module that has mark IV rhythm in the top and high-gained Mark IIc+ in the bottom would be amazing. I would by one today. I am sure your current tone-shaping MIDDLE and TREBLE would do juse fine for EQing.

EWSEthan":2z78kamy said:
So Jeff, does that mean that you agree with us and are going to start cooking up a Mark IIc+ high gain module? :D

bstaley":2z78kamy said:
COD:
This is not quite what I was expecting. In the description on the egnater website it mentions something about Dream Theater and I was expecting something similar to Petrucci's Mark IV lead tone. This module does not do that. It doesn't have as much gain or saturation. To me, it sounds similar to Santana's tone. The notes have a "sweetness" to them. It is a very nice sound, but I don't know that it is one I will use. This module does seem to be the most tweakable and I really need to spend more time with it before deciding to keep it or not. I imagine this mod would sound really good with a overdrive pedal in front of it.

AdamB":2z78kamy said:
Also, (sorry for all the questions) will Bruce maybe make a 2 channel boogie module, like Mark IV/Rectifier instead of just the ERECT? (I don't mind having to pay extra)

EWSEthan":2z78kamy said:
Maybe if you guys can mod it to give me the Chevelle Mark IV tones Id be interested....

EWSEthan":2z78kamy said:
COD really surprised me. It really had that high gain Mesa Mark thing going on and I just could not get that sound out of it when I played one. Sounded awesome. Hmmm... I wonder if we could do a variation of COD.... COD channel B on channel A, and even more gain and mids on channel B. Call it the "Mk2c+" module!

We've got our Fender, Vox, Marshall, and Soldano tones... all we need is our Boogie tones and there will be no need to own any other amps. :thumbsup:

(Yeah, I know... I'm still a loser :D )
 
I want one too!!
I guess this means you have to start this thread all over :doh: .
 
Fuck you guys are terrible!...Yes version 2 of the COD+ is in the sound room tonight for more tweaking. It's coming soon.
 
Jeff Hilligan":33lj1shf said:
Fuck you guys are terrible!...Yes version 2 of the COD+ is in the sound room tonight for more tweaking. It's coming soon.

LMFAO

So how's it going to be? Thick scooped liquidy rhythm for channel A and a smoky woody lead tone for Channel B? :)
 
We just have to be really careful with what we do cause ya know..Me.a B**gie likes to enforce there designs and patents just like us!
 
Jeff Hilligan":21v9ygde said:
Fuck you guys are terrible!...Yes version 2 of the COD+ is in the sound room tonight for more tweaking. It's coming soon.
Hey Jeff you think it will be ready for me to smuggle home on the plane :D
 
Official lobbyist for the Egnater Mesa Boogie Mark Series Module :D
ruso,love the sig :lol: :LOL: :thumbsup:
 
jmgman69":142opxnb said:
Official lobbyist for the Egnater Mesa Boogie Mark Series Module :D
ruso,love the sig :lol: :LOL: :thumbsup:

Hey, if it worked for a guy on the Ernie Ball forums... :yes: he's a leftie and has been wanting a left handed JP6 for a long time. The guys at Ernie Ball said that it would never happen. Well, a bunch of lefties ganged up and started lobbying for a left handed JP6 and low and behold, Ernie Ball agreed to make them:

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-m ... ition.html :rock:
 
That was awesome. Much kudos for digging up those old quotes.

Yes, WE WANT A MESA STYLE MODULE!!!! f@#$ THE PATENTS!!!

C'mon Jeff and Bruce...hook some brothas up! You're halfway there with the COD. Tighten the bottom and add some gain and you're golden.

I say we keep bumping this thread every day until a module is released. Or at least until I get to beta test one. :lol: :LOL:
 
I'm game for a Marky Mark module. I'd love to see some of the others I mentioned (especially ORANGE!!!!!). I have a sneaking suspicion that the modular series is going to get an overhaul. Call it a hunch or perhaps my penchant for stirring the pot. In either case, it was previously stated that next year is going to be a :shocked: :rawk: :m17: kinda year for Egnater. My M4 is on the books and I'm totally pumped. June can't get here fast enough!
 
chode7":1xffm2us said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that the modular series is going to get an overhaul. Call it a hunch or perhaps my penchant for stirring the pot.

I really hope this isnt the case. I love my MOD 50 and dont want to be temped with a full new line of modules...
 
EWSEthan":1ikbyxof said:
chode7":1ikbyxof said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that the modular series is going to get an overhaul. Call it a hunch or perhaps my penchant for stirring the pot.

I really hope this isnt the case. I love my MOD 50 and dont want to be temped with a full new line of modules...

Sounds like something a programer who just bought a house would say! :lol: :LOL:
 
jmgman69":2bvkm0hv said:
Jeff Hilligan":2bvkm0hv said:
Fuck you guys are terrible!...Yes version 2 of the COD+ is in the sound room tonight for more tweaking. It's coming soon.
Hey Jeff you think it will be ready for me to smuggle home on the plane :D

mmmm... COD+ :rock:
 
 
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