Axe-FX vs Amplitude 3

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Is Amplitube 3 or any of the other computer modeling systems worthwhile? I am looking into buying a new laptop and recording system and figure if A3 is any good, just sell my Ultra and use the money to buy the whole set-up.
 
mixohoytian":2ljd9oy6 said:
I've been the most impressed by the
peavy revalver software
Same here. But the number of amp models are very limited.

Amplitube's amp models never impressed me, but their stompboxes are pretty good.
 
I have amplitube 2, and the axe FX is no comparison. Unless they REALLY improved things in V3, then I am thinking that the AXE FX is still pretty superior. some decent stuff in Amplitibe though
 
Guitar tech at Wild West guitars, Mark, does amazing recordings with Amplitube.
 
I have Amplitube 3..it can sound very good, but I think the feel is lacking ( like all plug-ins I have tried)

I own revalver, podfarm and Amp3 and while they can sound great on recordings i don't find them very satisfying to play through..I would imagine the axe has a much lower latency and more interaction than any plug-in...
 
I have Revalver. It's good but not in the same universe as the Axe.
 
I haven't heard Amplitube recently, but I really like Guitar Rig. I was very impressed with some of the tones that can be had with that on a crappy computer setup. I can only imagine what could be done with it on something good, by someone that knows what they are doing...
 
Axe FX wins hands down in a head to head comparison. I have heard great clips by both, but anytime you are using computer software you are at the mercy of the horsepower of your computer. Yes I know the Axe FX is as well, but it is a stand alone unit and not having to take on the DAW efforts, plugins if you use additional ones, etc... I wish Cliff would add more types of IO for the Axe FX, maybe in the next version. What the hell am I saying I use a Twin Jet not an Axe FX anyway, LOL - my .02 cents on this subject anyhow
 
ttosh":18yxayxa said:
Axe FX wins hands down in a head to head comparison. I have heard great clips by both, but anytime you are using computer software you are at the mercy of the horsepower of your computer. Yes I know the Axe FX is as well, but it is a stand alone unit and not having to take on the DAW efforts, plugins if you use additional ones, etc... I wish Cliff would add more types of IO for the Axe FX, maybe in the next version. What the hell am I saying I use a Twin Jet not an Axe FX anyway, LOL - my .02 cents on this subject anyhow

What if you bought the top of the line computer, like an i7 processor laptop with 6 GB of ram?
 
Jase2677":k98ikj0f said:
What if you bought the top of the line computer, like an i7 processor laptop with 6 GB of ram?

You would have a very powerful music production machine. Make it a Macbook Pro if you really want it to be the ultimate music production machine, as Macs still rule the music production environment.

The computer will give you tons of flexibility. There are so many different modeling packages out there that you can certainly create one-of-a-kind tone this way. But the laptop trades one set of issues for another.

The laptop is still not an ideal platform for live performance use. Can you trust that nobody is going to knock your laptop off whatever stand it's on in a club? Or a roadie/sound guy who steps on it (if it's on the floor) while racing across the stage to get something done?

If you're doing electronic music and the laptop is attached to the top of a rack (picturing a keyboard player or DJ rig), it's probably safe from harms way. HOWEVER... you need a foot controller and some kind of interface to it. That might be the built-in USB, or an external MIDI adaptor... so now someone trips over the cable, breaking the USB jack on your laptop, etc... as a studio rig, the laptop with a choice of modelers and your own custom sound banks would be a fantastic tool.

But the Axe-FX is a real dedicated hardware solution. It goes into a rack for protection. It can be paired with various power amps to drive big guitar speaker cabinets. It has great response/feel, and it has some different models than you'll find in the various software solutions. But you turn it on and you're up and running, always. A laptop is regularly downloading patches/updating, takes longer to start up, etc. And the quality of the FX in the axe-fx are fantastic, so even if you get comparable amp models that you love for your tone, you'll get better effects, and more signal routing flexibility, than you get with many computer-based modelers. ALSO, the hardware gives you effects loops for integrating other external pedals and rack gear. Not all computer-based products are capable of letting you patch a rack item into the FX loop of a virtual amp, for example. Most of them just work with whatever input signal they get, which means you can only put pedals/fx in front of the virtual amp.

So yes, you can have a great sounding rig from software on a nice laptop. But it may not make sense if live gigs are the primary intended use. And what happens when the laptop's hard drive crashes? At least with axe-fx, you could stick another preamp in the rack and have something physical to fall back on if the box went down.

Scott
 
ttosh":3du7r1s0 said:
Axe FX wins hands down in a head to head comparison. I have heard great clips by both, but anytime you are using computer software you are at the mercy of the horsepower of your computer. Yes I know the Axe FX is as well, but it is a stand alone unit and not having to take on the DAW efforts, plugins if you use additional ones, etc... I wish Cliff would add more types of IO for the Axe FX, maybe in the next version. What the hell am I saying I use a Twin Jet not an Axe FX anyway, LOL - my .02 cents on this subject anyhow

ARHHHHJj the swinging of the dingle hits me in the face
 
scottkahn":2gdogss9 said:
Jase2677":2gdogss9 said:
What if you bought the top of the line computer, like an i7 processor laptop with 6 GB of ram?

You would have a very powerful music production machine. Make it a Macbook Pro if you really want it to be the ultimate music production machine, as Macs still rule the music production environment.

The computer will give you tons of flexibility. There are so many different modeling packages out there that you can certainly create one-of-a-kind tone this way. But the laptop trades one set of issues for another.

The laptop is still not an ideal platform for live performance use. Can you trust that nobody is going to knock your laptop off whatever stand it's on in a club? Or a roadie/sound guy who steps on it (if it's on the floor) while racing across the stage to get something done?

If you're doing electronic music and the laptop is attached to the top of a rack (picturing a keyboard player or DJ rig), it's probably safe from harms way. HOWEVER... you need a foot controller and some kind of interface to it. That might be the built-in USB, or an external MIDI adaptor... so now someone trips over the cable, breaking the USB jack on your laptop, etc... as a studio rig, the laptop with a choice of modelers and your own custom sound banks would be a fantastic tool.

But the Axe-FX is a real dedicated hardware solution. It goes into a rack for protection. It can be paired with various power amps to drive big guitar speaker cabinets. It has great response/feel, and it has some different models than you'll find in the various software solutions. But you turn it on and you're up and running, always. A laptop is regularly downloading patches/updating, takes longer to start up, etc. And the quality of the FX in the axe-fx are fantastic, so even if you get comparable amp models that you love for your tone, you'll get better effects, and more signal routing flexibility, than you get with many computer-based modelers. ALSO, the hardware gives you effects loops for integrating other external pedals and rack gear. Not all computer-based products are capable of letting you patch a rack item into the FX loop of a virtual amp, for example. Most of them just work with whatever input signal they get, which means you can only put pedals/fx in front of the virtual amp.

So yes, you can have a great sounding rig from software on a nice laptop. But it may not make sense if live gigs are the primary intended use. And what happens when the laptop's hard drive crashes? At least with axe-fx, you could stick another preamp in the rack and have something physical to fall back on if the box went down.

Scott
Thanks
 
There are rackable computers and also the Muse receptor for racking VSP software. I like the Amplitube clips I have heard way more for realistic amp sounds. But you can't go wrong either way.
 
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