Axefx hype?

[AndyKE]

While everyone is raving about the Axe fx i find it about impossible to find good clips recorded with that device. I mean there are some ok clips but nothing that really makes me shout Heureka that sounds like the shit. To be honest i always find the Axe clips unappealing sterile sounding, overly compressed and overloaded with effects. But Line 6 or Guitar Rig on the other hand i find loads of really good recordings. That doesn`t mean that there are not a few good axefx clips out there but not a lot to my knowledge. Have never played an Axe so i am not an expert here but as mentioned what i can tell from internet soundclips the axe isn`t exactly the tone machine it`s said to be.
On the other hand there are not that much killer recordings made with amps as far as to my knowledge either (i am not speaking of professional recordings- just about the home made you tube clips). There is one guy who uses a Palmer PD which gets really top notch recordings. But for the average Joe, not having the possiblity to record in a sound studio, Line seems to be the best choice.
Just my 2 cent. I know that really sounds ABSOLUTELY crazy, so here is the proof of the pudding:


Line 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3HP8nDH2_w
https://www.youtube.com/user/kotsadoros# ... NgWrOhsRzU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcIgHKI9lYk
https://www.youtube.com/user/lavendell?b ... YOmWeeqdrA
Guitar Rig:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Kq6_29o9g

Palmer PD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O80ule70 ... re=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwKSL3YA ... re=related

So what do i think of when i am talking of really good sound: Andy Timmons, Bonamassama and Vaughan+ Malmsteen yes you heard right, but i find he has some really good recordings with regard to tone as for example this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLa6iW7dRf4

 

[Anonymous]

How 'bout this?:

Jamie's Cryin' Full Mix

"unappealing sterile sounding, overly compressed and overloaded with effects"? I think not...

You are only listening to my guitar in the mix (except on the intro solo where Ed and I are dueting ) as I have recorded only the right side of the track and panned it center. As anyone who follows VH knows, Ed's guitar is non-existant (except for a tiny bit of his delayed, 'verbed signal) on the right side of the early VH tracks, especially since my guitar is panned center.

It sounds pretty close to the orginal to me...

Steve

 

[Vince Sansevere]

I'm sorry man but you are never going to get those world class pro quality tones from a digital toy box. It's just not going to happen. They have great uses in songwriting and some of the effects but if you want the REAL DEAL onstage you know where to look....tubes!!!

 

[AndyKE]

How 'bout this?:

Jamie's Cryin' Full Mix

"unappealing sterile sounding, overly compressed and overloaded with effects"? I think not...

You are only listening to my guitar in the mix (except on the intro solo where Ed and I are dueting ) as I have recorded only the right side of the track and panned it center. As anyone who follows VH knows, Ed's guitar is non-existant (except for a tiny bit of his delayed, 'verbed signal) on the right side of the early VH tracks, especially since my guitar is panned center.

It sounds pretty close to the orginal to me...

Steve

Yeah that was a really good one, admitted. But i still havn`t heard some really convincing shred blues tones from that thing. Kjetil Strand did some Malmsteen stuff with it, playing is top notch but the tone isn`t quite there where it is supposed to be. And with regard to your example i do not doubt that the Axe is very good at getting the Brown sound and everything lying beyond that whith respect to high gain sounds. I think the problem are the tones with less gain. Again, just my 2 cent i am far from being an Axepert here!

 

[Anonymous]

How 'bout this?:

Jamie's Cryin' Full Mix

"unappealing sterile sounding, overly compressed and overloaded with effects"? I think not...

You are only listening to my guitar in the mix (except on the intro solo where Ed and I are dueting ) as I have recorded only the right side of the track and panned it center. As anyone who follows VH knows, Ed's guitar is non-existant (except for a tiny bit of his delayed, 'verbed signal) on the right side of the early VH tracks, especially since my guitar is panned center.

It sounds pretty close to the orginal to me...

Steve

Yeah that was a really good one, admitted. But i still havn`t heard some really convincing shred blues tones from that thing. Kjetil Strand did some Malmsteen stuff with it, playing is top notch but the tone isn`t quite there where it is supposed to be. And with regard to your example i do not doubt that the Axe is very good at getting the Brown sound and everything lying beyond that whith respect to high gain sounds. I think the problem are the tones with less gain. Again, just my 2 cent i am far from being an Axepert here!

Ok, cool - so you aren't necessarily pre-disposed to dislike all Axe clips...

Actually, the original rap against the Axe was that it was a one trick low/mid gain pony. There are a few guys who do great low/mid gain clips with it.

mentoneman where are you? Do a search for his clips - I think you'll like 'em... he did some nice low/mid gain stuff...

Steve

 

[grunge782]

Wow....

I think you are wrong. The Axe-fx records excellently and most of the time better than other modelers I have heard for guitar tones. However GOOD recording skills is what really matters in the end. Most guitar tones alone don't sound that great recorded, its not until it all comes together when it sounds good.

Here are some Axe clips-

https://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... dID=630564
https://www.myspace.com/redseasfire

https://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... dID=796235

 

[ttosh]

I'm sorry man but you are never going to get those world class pro quality tones from a digital toy box. It's just not going to happen. They have great uses in songwriting and some of the effects but if you want the REAL DEAL onstage you know where to look....tubes!!!

I had the Ultra and Standard and it was not for me. But to make statements like the above seems to be naive to me. If you have played the unit you would know there are a lot of good tones in there. The new Crue stuff was totally recorded with Eleven Plug In for Pro Tools, may or may not be your cup of tea, but the tones are stellar as is the production.

Never say never, as anything is possible in the right hands.

Again the Axe FX was not for me, but it is a world class unit and as Steve's clip pointed out that was a great tone. One of many great tones can be had in the unit.

 

[Cornfordcrunch]

Before you judge it, try it. It's not going to be everything to everyone, but it's pretty damned good for a lot of things. It's weakest point is in the low/mid gain stuff but compared to anything else it's still miles ahead even at it's worst. I think most of the clips of the Axe fall in line with most of the clips of amps we've heard. You're forced to listen to someone else's perception of a great sound which could be the polar opposite of what you like. If I had based my decision on the Axe off of youtube and all the crappy U2 covers, I'd never have pulled the trigger.

 

[Anonymous]

But to make statements like the above seems to be naive to me.

Hey bro - he's just trollin'... Vince Sansevere was involved in all kinds of bad deals years ago on the various guitar boards and is a universally hated figure on them. He is also in jail now. This guy, whoever he is, is just having some fun with his name and picture...

Steve

 

[ttosh]

But to make statements like the above seems to be naive to me.

Hey bro - he's just trollin'... Vince Sansevere was involved in all kinds of bad deals years ago on the various guitar boards and is a universally hated figure on them. He is also in jail now. This guy, whoever he is, is just having some fun with his name and picture...

Steve

Ah... Thanks for the heads up!!

 

[Gainfreak]

This is actually pretty hysterical if you think about!! When the Axe-fx first came out people were bitching that it could only do clean and low gain...at one time it was called the U2 box! Then a bunch of gainheads got a hold of the Axe and now people are saying that it can't do low to medium gain!! I'm sorry but I have to laugh. This isn't a dig to the original poster but the whole evolution of the axe-fx and the naysayers are pretty comical. Methinks that when someone does post a clip of a Timmons vibe.. Some metalhead will say... yeah.. It's great for that but it can't do high gain

The Bottom line is get a hold of one and try it for yourself...If you know what makes the Timmons sound tick... You'll get IMHO

BTW.. This guy love Timmons and he seems to get a good sound IMHO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgBpFUch ... re=related

 

[Anonymous]

This is actually pretty hysterical if you think about!! When the Axe-fx first came out people were bitching that it could only do clean and low gain...at one time it was called the U2 box! Then a bunch of gainheads got a hold of the Axe and now people are saying that it can't do low to medium gain!! I'm sorry but I have to laugh. This isn't a dig to the original poster but the whole evolution of the axe-fx and the naysayers are pretty comical. Methinks that when someone does post a clip of a Timmons vibe.. Some metalhead will say... yeah.. It's great for that but it can't do high gain

Exactly the point I was making as well. It's crazy!

Steve

 

[Gainfreak]

This is actually pretty hysterical if you think about!! When the Axe-fx first came out people were bitching that it could only do clean and low gain...at one time it was called the U2 box! Then a bunch of gainheads got a hold of the Axe and now people are saying that it can't do low to medium gain!! I'm sorry but I have to laugh. This isn't a dig to the original poster but the whole evolution of the axe-fx and the naysayers are pretty comical. Methinks that when someone does post a clip of a Timmons vibe.. Some metalhead will say... yeah.. It's great for that but it can't do high gain

Exactly the point I was making as well. It's crazy!

Steve

 

[AndyKE]

Yeah, lot of factors that come into play here. As with amps, very difficult to judge from You tube clips. I am considering going the Axefx route, but i am a little worried that i could end up not liking it. I am already dreaming about that stuff. XTC, AXEfx, XTC, AXEfx, it`S almost like an obsessive compulsive disorder

 

[Mailman1971]

This is actually pretty hysterical if you think about!! When the Axe-fx first came out people were bitching that it could only do clean and low gain...at one time it was called the U2 box! Then a bunch of gainheads got a hold of the Axe and now people are saying that it can't do low to medium gain!! I'm sorry but I have to laugh. This isn't a dig to the original poster but the whole evolution of the axe-fx and the naysayers are pretty comical. Methinks that when someone does post a clip of a Timmons vibe.. Some metalhead will say... yeah.. It's great for that but it can't do high gain

Exactly the point I was making as well. It's crazy!

Steve

It's just nuts I'll tell ya'!

Dammit!! You PROMISED this pic would never leak out!!

 

[Bob Savage]

That ain't right.

 

[Gainfreak]

Yeah, lot of factors that come into play here. As with amps, very difficult to judge from You tube clips. I am considering going the Axefx route, but i am a little worried that i could end up not liking it. I am already dreaming about that stuff. XTC, AXEfx, XTC, AXEfx, it`S almost like an obsessive compulsive disorder

There is no doubt that it is a tough call! Trust me I know!
The only thing that I would say is that even if you tried the Axe-fx and did not like it, you would more then likely be able to make your money back

 

[Gainfreak]

This is actually pretty hysterical if you think about!! When the Axe-fx first came out people were bitching that it could only do clean and low gain...at one time it was called the U2 box! Then a bunch of gainheads got a hold of the Axe and now people are saying that it can't do low to medium gain!! I'm sorry but I have to laugh. This isn't a dig to the original poster but the whole evolution of the axe-fx and the naysayers are pretty comical. Methinks that when someone does post a clip of a Timmons vibe.. Some metalhead will say... yeah.. It's great for that but it can't do high gain

Exactly the point I was making as well. It's crazy!

Steve

It's just nuts I'll tell ya'!

You got a lot of balls posting that Mr.!!!!

 

[Mailman1971]

That ain't right.

one is bigger than the other?

We are still cool..........as long as the full nude shots on the beach dont show up.
Then I have to call it quits Mr!

 

[Badronald]

It's ok that I'm not interested in the AxFX in the least bit isn't it?