Back to the rack

  • Thread starter Thread starter SFW
  • Start date Start date
SFW

SFW

Well-known member
For the past several weeks, I’ve been trying to move back into just playing a few pedals through my amp’s loop. Mainly some delay and reverb. While I have used these same pedals in the past with this amp, I have really been fighting to get the tones I want. This morning, I finally broke down and hooked the rack back up. And boom! There were the tones that I was missing. Yes, the TC rack unit does color your tone. But I have found that I like the way it colors my tone. It seems to warm up the amp just a tad and make the overall tone more pleasant to my ears. The delays sit right where I wanted them. I got my detune crutch back...lol! Love that effect when used subtly. Just widens things up nicely. So I’m done with pretending that I can “just get away with some pedals.” Back to being the rack whore that I am. Lol.

 
I totally get where you are coming from. I used to love the sound of my rack rig.
 
I never should have sold my old rack delay (Chandler SDE). Haven't heard a pedal that does what that thing did. Like you say, it maybe colored the tone, but that can be a good thing.
 
Fuck pedals! :uzi:

:D

Well, that might be a bit extreme actually. I've always preferred rack gear over pedals. Not sure why. In any event, glad you're happy with your tone again. :thumbsup:
 
While the Hardwire delays I was using sounded good, I have always noticed that rack effects sound more polished. I also like that with my RJM mini amp gizmo I can change channels on the amp and change effects with just one button push, instead of tap dancing on the board. So that's a plus too.
 
I’ve never left the rack. Too many cool rack effects that kill any pedal...
 
psychodave":oezq8h3t said:
I’ve never left the rack. Too many cool rack effects that kill any pedal...
I'm with you guys, I like the way my Intellifex colors my amps tone. And that's el cheapo compared to some of your gear lol..
 
Never left the rack, pedals have their place for certain applications in my rack(boost, comp, some anamods like phase 90/mxr117, DimC)....but really the rack is where it's at for me as far as quality of effects are concerned.
 
psychodave":36gu8uli said:
I’ve never left the rack. Too many cool rack effects that kill any pedal...

:rock:

I added pedals to the rack rig; Best of both worlds.
 
-add me to the never totally left the rack-
----{ The RACK }----
-+-EV1010--Variac--big nob bench model with analog meter--(10 amp * 0-140v)--run 2 amps at 85-90 volts-+-
-+-BOSS CE 300-- $UPER CHORUS--($TEREO)-analog---always on even if the chorus isnt engaged-great clean boost---(best stereo splitter ive ever had)-+-
-+-TUNER-+-
-+-TAPCO STEREO EQ--Dual 15's--noisey as hell--

-whats ya got-
 
Zachman":28kqo4ha said:
I added pedals to the rack rig; Best of both worlds.
Yep, me, too.

While there are certainly some good digital equivalents, I like analog pedals in front of the amp. Boost/drive... I've never found anything that sounds better than a pedal (yet... and that's only if the amp needs it anyway). Compressors, I could go either way (pedals pre/rack post), but I much prefer analog. Modulation, there are great analog and digital rack units for post, but there's something about a Phase 90 out in front. I haven't found a digital pedal that I like more than a rack version of the same effect. On the other hand, even though I can get hundreds of insanely great delays from an Eventide, and it may get really really close, but it's still not quite the same as the one I get from my old EP-3.

Of course, everyone's MMV, this is just what I like. If I want those big studio sounds, I should be using those big studio tools. Innovation, not emulation. :) I've been using a guitar rack since '88, been through eight or so racks since and have three currently, one of which I'm refining now. I have a ton of pedals and some amazing amps that don't need more than a cable and electricity (well, suppose a guitar might help... LOL), but I will always come back to my racks.

:rock: :rock: :rock:
 
Glad to see others are sold on rack mount gear, I've been using rack mounted Pre, main and digital FX since the 80's as well. I started recording in the studio back then and realized if I don't use the gear that engineers and producers were laying on my tracks, I'm never gonna sound that way or that good live. Most of my rack stuff is older but it works. I love the Intellifex also and have moded most of the stock patches.

I've also found that any Mulit-FX processor only does 1 or 2 things really good at a time so by stacking them up you can really do some amazing things by letting each unit "shine" in it's sweet spot. Adding additional units to the chain keeps the signal clean and in tact through even the most insane FX (think T. Morello).

The other main reason I use rack gear is MIDI control when playing live. Back then there was no such thing as a tube head with MIDI control so if you wanted to change from a Crunch rhythm with reverb to a clean tone with say a chorus and a delay you would look like Mikael Jackson jumping on pedals on stage. One button changes Clean\Dirty or Lead channel and any combination of FX from 3 processors.
 
Zachman":1j8qp4vw said:
psychodave":1j8qp4vw said:
I’ve never left the rack. Too many cool rack effects that kill any pedal...

:rock:

I added pedals to the rack rig; Best of both worlds.
BRETHREN ZACH!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :rock:

We need you around here more often, Brah...

ANYWAY - rack, floor, stomps, nothing, boost, no boost, dirt, OD, clean, modulation, delay, pitch, wah, MIDI, loops, in-front, TRS, VP Jr., power conditioning, splitters, ground-lift, hum, lighting, snakes... - I can't stand effects because they're just that "one extra thing :doh: " and have tried (and successfully to much an extent) to rely solely on my amps for tone. But where it's mandatory for me is recording and sometimes jamming/gigging. Recording is usually quieter so the room isn't captured, natural echo and space/reverb, etc. So - there it is - reverb and delay is critical for creating "dimensionality" in my recorded tone, and then wahs, boost, pitch/mods, etc are either one-shot-deals or used throughout. I was growing increasingly frustrated with floor space real estate and access and cleanliness. I decided to rackmount all my stomps except for in-the-loop stuff, and will decide between analog switching versus MIDI as it gets used and I grow more familiar with it. Right now I can hand access the effects as needed - and as I don't use them often, this is fine. In a live setting this is impossible. So this is where the analog-switch/MIDI argument will take shape - when I start using my kit for live situations. Right now, my stomps are getting housed on racks, only my necessary foot-ables are by my feet (wah, 1 boost), everything else preset and in the loop, or pick and choose off the rack.

If I had to guess?? I'd imagine it'll all end up going MIDI with one footcontroller on the floor with my wah and exp pedal - that's it.
 
RACKS (the good ones) RULE!!!

Try ANY pedal to do this kind of stuff... and fail in misery:



























 
Back
Top