Bare Knuckle pups and Diezel Hagen & VH4

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Seymour Duncans had been my main stay pickups for 2-3 years now but i had chanced upon a killer deal for a Bare Knuckle Painkiller Bridge & Warpig Neck, man these pups really go well with the Diezels that it feels like a match made in heaven. :rock:

Any one have the bridge Painkiller and bridge Aftermath? as i am gassing for a Aftermath for my other guitar, are they too similar or is there a difference worth buying.
 
Stick with SD - they are the best IMO and most versatile all around.
 
Ya, I've got a mess of BKPs and I use Diezel's a lot. Whaddya need to know?

I will say, of the 6 guitars fully equipped with BKPs, I've not ever mix-and-matched my pups, they're all calibrated pairs. Secondly, one thing I've really noticed is that Diezels - at least the VH4 and the Hagen - totally groove to lower output pups (low to moderate) than the sizzling higher output magnets. Not all amps are like this. But anyway, love the Painkillers, I'm spec'ing out a 7 string right now and it's getting the AM's, but don't neglect to look at the real sweet sounding mid output pups - their coloration and tone and grit will blow you away, especially with a Diezel.

Peace,
Mo
 
I'm looking to replace the pickups in all my guitars with emg's current and low output Bkp's are my first choice. I can't agree with Ventura more, the vh4 definitely favors lower output pickups, I was able to get incredible chunk and definition via the 8k PAF style pups in my mates les paul - hence the full scale change for me.

Can anyone comment on how pickups like the emerald, vhII, (and on the hotter side), the rebel yell work with the VH4? Even the aftermath? I fear the latter would be too tight a sound in conjunction with the epic tightness of the vh4. I need some give in my attack, haha.
 
Yeah i'll agree the Vh4 favours mid powered output pickups and i think when i'll retro fit my next guitar i'll head towards Bare knuckles Black dog or the Mule but so far definately impressed with Bare knuckles
 
I absolutely LOVE the Emerald. Got a calibrated triple set in my '57 Black Beauty and man, the tones are just beautiful. This goes for the VH4 AND the Hagen, and while I'm at it, my 20thA-X to boot. But ya, stellar, stellar pup - I think the Emeralds are probably one of the more underrated BKPs out there.

Black Dogs? They do for pups what the V30s do for drivers - they've got mids galore and they truly growl and cut. I love 'em. They work in a ton of different applications, and yes, the VH4 is excellent, but I'd say not as good as the Emeralds for the VH4 specifically. But en masse for most every other amp I own, the Black Dogs are uniquely voiced and definitely charge full steam ahead.

RiffRaffs and the VH4? Probably one of the best combinations I've got going on - period.

When it comes to the Hagen specifically? Well, it's hard to make this amp sound trashy... :lol: :LOL: I'll go out on a limb here and say that the Hagen is less susceptible to the output of a pick up than the VH4 is. I've played Miracle Mans through to Mules on the Hagen, and they all sound killer. Just saying, amp for amp, there's definitely a difference in the pups and the respective amps' response.

Not rambling... Emeralds are potent but incredible. But if you really wanna make an impact and keep it old school? Go Riff Raffs with the VH4 - also depends on the guitar, which I should have asked straight up.

Peace,
Mo
 
Thanks for that info ventura! I had considered the RiffRaffs for one of my bridge pickups; I wanted a slash-esque style of pick attack to my sound. That old school rock and roll 'dig'. Y'know a little more give, but with excellent clarity. Hmm, it's going to be difficult to choose between the emerald and the riffraff for use with my diezels. The Vh4 has tonnes of gain so pickup output doesnt concern me much, but my Schmidt loves being pushed a little at the input occasionally.
 
I own a herbert and have 3 guitars (all Ibanez) with bkps: Holy Diver, Painkiller and Aftermath calibrated sets.
If you have questions, feel free to ask ;-)
 
philbag":1bp7jllt said:
Thanks for that info ventura! I had considered the RiffRaffs for one of my bridge pickups; I wanted a slash-esque style of pick attack to my sound. That old school rock and roll 'dig'. Y'know a little more give, but with excellent clarity. Hmm, it's going to be difficult to choose between the emerald and the riffraff for use with my diezels. The Vh4 has tonnes of gain so pickup output doesnt concern me much, but my Schmidt loves being pushed a little at the input occasionally.
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RiffRaffs are totally awesome pups - seriously amazing sounding pups. When mated to a heavy-gain amp such as the VH4? Bliss. When mated to a more vintage-voiced rig (I've played mine through a boutique Class-A 30W with Alnico Gold speaker) it's soooooooo sweet sounding. They're really brilliant in all applications, and ya, no need for HO pups with a head that already breathes fire. FWIW, I'm also a fan of sticking to calibrated pairs, not mix-matching them, just for the record.

Good luck. As well, get Tim on your team - ask his professional opinion on what it may be you could use. He's super helpful, knows his woods and pups like none other, tim@bareknucklepickups.co.uk

Peace,
Mo
 
try before you buy, i have a herbert. I bought a set of warpigs a while ago, i really didnt like it with my herbert.
 
This seems to be a topic with quite some need of information exchange.
Does anyone have experience with Haeussel pickups? I have Lundgren M8 on my guitar but they compress too much for my taste. Would need something more open and clear, without loosing too much aggression. Amp is the Hagen.

Anyone?

Thanks
 
Obiwan":15dm9gxn said:
This seems to be a topic with quite some need of information exchange.
Does anyone have experience with Haeussel pickups? I have Lundgren M8 on my guitar but they compress too much for my taste. Would need something more open and clear, without loosing too much aggression. Amp is the Hagen.

Anyone?

Thanks
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No.

But I will say it's hard to make the Hagen sound bad :lol: :LOL:
 
hay a littel off base..but Bk with an Einy?I have a Holy diver in my ibanez through body love it,But can't seem to find the right bridge foe my 79 Paul.I'm old and play half step down,don't want anything over the top .Problem is the 79 has a mapel butcher block neck and is is a lot brighter than my R7 with 1 piece mahogany neck.R7 sounds good with plain old 57classics.If anyone has a suggestion would appreciate it.Was thinking a rebel Yell .But as has been said b4 don't want much over 12ohms.Thx
 
Just my opinion and 2 cents:
Don´t use PU´s with more than 10k ohm.
 
Les Paul with Emerald, VH4 & thinner strings (10s) = awesome rock & anything else.

Warpig with Superstrat, VH4 & thinner strings = good metal

Ceramic Nailbomb with Superstrat, VH4 & thick strings = phenomenal metal. My all time favorite combo, never fails to deliver. In fact once I turn this on with channel 4 I'm pretty much done, I don't wish that anything were different about the sound quality.
 
Obiwan":2bigpsvs said:
This seems to be a topic with quite some need of information exchange.
Does anyone have experience with Haeussel pickups? I have Lundgren M8 on my guitar but they compress too much for my taste. Would need something more open and clear, without loosing too much aggression. Amp is the Hagen.

Anyone?

Thanks
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I have Häussel Pickups in my custom made guitar, maple neck, mahogany body. it´s a vin+ on bridge and neck (ceramic).
i´ve played it through a vh4, sounded great.


greets
chris
 
Peter Diezel":ow2tkzzg said:
Just my opinion and 2 cents:
Don´t use PU´s with more than 10k ohm.
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Peter, does it hold true for just Hagen and VH4 or it goes for the whole line of Diezel amps too?
 
@ Ventura

I am trying to form an opinion regarding the different BKP's and wanted to know if the observations you shared about the various combinations of pu's and amps are based on "in a band situation" or playing at home?
What style of music do you play?
 
The VH4 sounded awesome with my BKP Nailbombs and Aftermath, both very high output. YMMV.

-C
 
cheftie":z7s36v4w said:
Peter Diezel":z7s36v4w said:
Just my opinion and 2 cents:
Don´t use PU´s with more than 10k ohm.
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Peter, does it hold true for just Hagen and VH4 or it goes for the whole line of Diezel amps too?
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It´s my opinion not only concerning the Diezel line
 
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