Best Amp for the Buck

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I really like my 20th Anniversary Shiva. It can definitely get tight and pretty gainy (but this is specific to the 20th Anniversary, not the standard ones). It's the only amp I have that I can dial in good tone for my Strat/Tele and Caparison/ESP guitars. The loop is good and is has nice reverb.
 
For $2500 I'd go Mesa MKIII, and a Marshall DSL. and a 5150.
 
They have brand new Orange rockerverb 50 on ebay for $1499 and its an awesome amp or get the 100 if u need it. Out of your list of choices I would be between the Shiva, quickrod, and Soldano, all are great amps.
 
psychodave":34kjs9ea said:
Get a used 5150 for around $500. Then get a nice boost like the bad monkey and a simple delay like the MXR carbon copy then a simple eq for additional tone shaping. So for $700 you will have a really nice amp with the ability to add gain and delay. Spend another $500 on a used Marshall cab with vintage 30's or greenback 25's. Then save the rest of the money and save it for a rainy day.
Good call! Marshall DSL with the right boost is a good choice as well.
 
messenger":plt5d6ya said:
For $2500 I'd go Mesa MKIII, and a Marshall DSL. and a 5150.
I was thinking something like this ..... a few flavors and you will always have a backup. 2 or 3 is a minimum if you gig much.
 
stephen sawall":34v5o7k7 said:
messenger":34v5o7k7 said:
For $2500 I'd go Mesa MKIII, and a Marshall DSL. and a 5150.
I was thinking something like this ..... a few flavors and you will always have a backup. 2 or 3 is a minimum if you gig much.[/quote
Yes your right, excess is best!
 
I will be the minority voice here, but the Roadster is pretty tough to beat. You can be defeated and deflated rather quickly though if you don't take the time to read the amp's manual and factory settings. From there, you can learn to dial in any convincing tone you like, so long as you have the amp running at the proper volume. The Roadster is especially dark sounding and undefined at lower volumes. The Roadster sounds, amazingly, even more clear and defined (especially useful for recording sessions) if the F/X loop is disengaged, a point that Mesa mentions in the manual.

Point in case -- With the Roadster, users can get a pretty convincing array of tones for live settings. The key to the amps channels isn't the gain knob, but the treble, bass, and mids. The Roadster has a huge amount of bass present, something that will require odd settings for many users. Sometimes, depending on the mode and power, it is best to have the bass knob almost off. Pushing up the treble is key in that it adds some gain and brightness to your sound. Having lots of mids is also key to this amp. It is already a super compressed and dark amp. No need to hollow the tone out further by killing the mids. I see people mistakenly trying to brighten a channel by adding presence. I keep the presence low and treble high, then adjust the gain by ear to find the right amount of cut and distortion. No need to look at the knob and feel that you should have it at 2 o'clock. Rule of thumb should be -- use the gain and presence per taste after setting the mids, treble, and bass. Using too much gain or high amounts of gain from the gain knob alone increasingly limits how effective the mid, treble, and bass knobs are at shaping your tone. This is how Mesa sets up their amps. If you understand this, you'll be in good shape. Also, don't the Roadster isn't that great sounding at low volumes. You need it to be pushing considerable power and volume to get the full dynamics out of the amp.

The Roadster is hugely versatile, but it really takes time to learn how to use the amp properly. That is the amp's biggest downfall and a legitimate one at that. Who wants an amp that is that complicated? Most people don't want the hassle. When you plug in to the Roadster, you can get pretty great tones from some of the modes without any extreme settings of the eq. Yet the problem is, you won't get a great sound from all the modes and settings. That is where knowledge of the amps eq and experimentation with your guitar will take players further in discovering the Roadster's total potential. People just have to realize it is darker sounding by nature, while not being a "dark" amp per se. I can't stand seeing people cutting out the mids either. You completely neuter some of the amps settings by doing that. Even on the cleans, where on most amps some prefer a rounder tone, killing the mids on the Roadster hollows out your tone for the worse. The top end and bass on the amp are already massive as is. Adding mids to the Roadster is to the user's advantage, as is keeping the presence nowhere past noon. If the user wants a brighter sound; with more articulation for chording; and clarity and sustain for leads, they will have to employ an unorthodox approach to some of the settings and modes (of which is clearly explained in-depth in the amp's extensive manual).

The Roadster can get you a huge array of kick-ass tones that are convincing if you take the time to learn to amp - this means playing it loud and learning it loud too.
 
Friedman mod plexi
Friedman Dirty Shirley (based on JTM45)
Boogie Mark IIc+
Insanely tricked out Baron custom-build, and $ left over! (If you haven't checked out Baron, youtube em!)
Diezel Einstein (used)
Bogner XTC 101B (used)
SLO w/mods
New EVH 5150 III halfstack
Engl Powerball II
Engl Steve Morse

Those are a few I'd consider in that price range
 
Another good idea is to go buy two amps. Play them both for a few weeks, pick the one you like better and sell the other. Then use the cash from that sale to start rotating out different amps. This way you have your main amp and are always trying out others. This is what I do and as soon as I find one I like I keep it and then wait to save up money to start rotating out a third or fourth.
 
A peculiar question. 5150 is best bang for buck in terms of distorted amplifier. But in this case, there is a serious issue of taste, mojo, which club has better members, better reliability etc.
 
For $2500, you can get a used TriAmp Mk II and be done with the tone chasing. Just saying...
 
Devilinside":6lszqn0e said:
stephen sawall":6lszqn0e said:
messenger":6lszqn0e said:
For $2500 I'd go Mesa MKIII, and a Marshall DSL. and a 5150.
I was thinking something like this ..... a few flavors and you will always have a backup. 2 or 3 is a minimum if you gig much.[/quote
Yes your right, excess is best!
If you gig I would not consider having two amps excess .... it is just being realistic.
 
If you wanna spend your wad, get a used Diezel or Bogner...

If u wanna save some dough for dinner, grab a used Splawn QR & even get a cab.

If you really wanna save...get a Jet City...Musician Friend is blowing them out
 
You can also get a used ENGL SE for that price. The other ENGL offerings are a joke in comparison.
 
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