
oldmtlhed
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Ventura":148nytrn said:1-800-GAS-GONE
Hey!
No "free consultations". If these addicts can afford to spend $4,000 on another amp...
they can afford to pay my consultation fees!


Ventura":148nytrn said:1-800-GAS-GONE
JerEvil":28w6q46m said:Brandon (LunatiBSW) has some vids showing his Butterslax with matching cabs and it sounds uh-may-zing!Ventura":28w6q46m said:I'm trying to decide whether 2 x 15" are snake oil or actually helpful with this amp, or any of my other amps... Otherwise it's a pig of a cab.lester":28w6q46m said:ahem...and Uncle...you're gonna want the cab too.
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Congrats!
But I'm researching it, thanks for the heads up Lester!!![]()
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Yeah man I have a V-Boutique oversized 2x12 with H30's and it sounds killer. I gotta checkout these Celestion 15's.LunatiBSW":kuitb24i said:JerEvil":kuitb24i said:Brandon (LunatiBSW) has some vids showing his Butterslax with matching cabs and it sounds uh-may-zing!Ventura":kuitb24i said:I'm trying to decide whether 2 x 15" are snake oil or actually helpful with this amp, or any of my other amps... Otherwise it's a pig of a cab.lester":kuitb24i said:ahem...and Uncle...you're gonna want the cab too.
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Congrats!
But I'm researching it, thanks for the heads up Lester!!![]()
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Thanks Jeremy, they are shit iPhone, but the amp still sounds good for what it is. It's a goal in the future to get my recording gear revamped and go the reactive load/ ir route like you got Jer.
The 15's do sound awesome. Deep and tight. I've also never had the h30's, they are aggressive and complimentary of the mids and detail. The 15's bring the thump like no other. My Herbert sounds awesome (and different) through it also. So did my twin jet when I had it, sounded way better than the uberkab I had.
Oh COME ON oldmtlhed... You know how the world of psychobabble works. You have to "convert" the "client"; tempt them with the free consultation, blow tremendous amounts of sunshine up their asses and affirmations GALORE, make them feel great about themselves, then, just before the end of the "free first consultation", state that it's "obvious to you there are some underlying matters that are of relevance; they may not be numerous, they may not be behemoth in complexity; but they are definitely issues and they're holding you back from being all that you can be. If you want to reach the next level and wake up owning your space - mentally, physically, spiritually, and most important, sonically - we need to have at least 4 to 6 sessions. Totally up to you, but I see tremendous potential and I think this will be short business for both of us - so it's your call, but I think it's time to unleash the beast and make the world your oyster!!"oldmtlhed":1esmpzuv said:Ventura":1esmpzuv said:1-800-GAS-GONE
Hey!
No "free consultations". If these addicts can afford to spend $4,000 on another amp...
they can afford to pay my consultation fees!
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I'm told the difference isn't at all noticeable with the 15"s unless you're well past noon on the MV and moving tonnes of air. Otherwise, the differences in tonal quality are more to do with the G12H30 drivers than anything else.JerEvil":2n29iqs4 said:Brandon (LunatiBSW) has some vids showing his Butterslax with matching cabs and it sounds uh-may-zing!Ventura":2n29iqs4 said:I'm trying to decide whether 2 x 15" are snake oil or actually helpful with this amp, or any of my other amps... Otherwise it's a pig of a cab.lester":2n29iqs4 said:ahem...and Uncle...you're gonna want the cab too.
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Congrats!
But I'm researching it, thanks for the heads up Lester!!![]()
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Ventura":1d8k0y22 said:Let's talk - we could get this off the ground stat!! Maybe even do an IPO.
Really? I totally want that cab but my issue is the size... well actually my issue is a lack of a man caveVentura":u8skddfv said:I'm told the difference isn't at all noticeable with the 15"s unless you're well past noon on the MV and moving tonnes of air. Otherwise, the differences in tonal quality are more to do with the G12H30 drivers than anything else.
Thoughts??
errrrrl":aaq34t4r said:Really? I totally want that cab but my issue is the size... well actually my issue is a lack of a man caveVentura":aaq34t4r said:I'm told the difference isn't at all noticeable with the 15"s unless you're well past noon on the MV and moving tonnes of air. Otherwise, the differences in tonal quality are more to do with the G12H30 drivers than anything else.
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The people that mentioned to you that there is no difference do they have a Butterslax head? I'm thinking that Thump knob will directly affect those 15" fullbacks.
Yes this amp is insanely loud! Lol! It's funny when you look at the knob position when it "feels cranked" and see your at 3... insanity! But also sounds stellar at conversational volume.LunatiBSW":3bkoksqw said:errrrrl":3bkoksqw said:Really? I totally want that cab but my issue is the size... well actually my issue is a lack of a man caveVentura":3bkoksqw said:I'm told the difference isn't at all noticeable with the 15"s unless you're well past noon on the MV and moving tonnes of air. Otherwise, the differences in tonal quality are more to do with the G12H30 drivers than anything else.
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The people that mentioned to you that there is no difference do they have a Butterslax head? I'm thinking that Thump knob will directly affect those 15" fullbacks.
The 15 and deep knob go hand in hand.
I'm gonna have to completely disagree saying the 15's need crazy volume to notice.
I've had extensive experience with Diezel, Bogner, and Friedman cabs. The 412:15 sounds the deepest and biggest at any volume (self or with band) with any amp comparatively. My Uber's, my diezel's, my slax all sound deeper with the 15's. Sure at super low volumes you won't notice as much. But, Saying the h30's are the only thing your pushing until super high master just wouldn't make any sense in my findings. The cab brings more volume also (from the 15's). Turning the slax up to 3-4 on the individual channel masters is insanely loud. Like your ears will be ringing for at least an hour.
The 15's can take all the thump you can throw at it and remain focused and DEEP.
The Uber's I played through it sounded light years better than the uberkab I had also, so I sold it
Yes, they have the Slax head, cabs, etc. I'm just trying to look at this pragmatically as well - as in - the sensitivity of the cones, the frequency response, etc. and I'm just not feeling the scientific logic behind the 15" other than it's a cool thing to have 15" in your 412, er, 41215. I mean - if ya wanna throw a wrench into this theory, why are so many bass cabinets loaded with 10" cones. I don't get the 15" purpose - other than air. The G12H55(??) has the same low end response capabilities with an extended high-range, and it's still a 12" speaker.errrrrl":3rpolhem said:Really? I totally want that cab but my issue is the size... well actually my issue is a lack of a man caveVentura":3rpolhem said:I'm told the difference isn't at all noticeable with the 15"s unless you're well past noon on the MV and moving tonnes of air. Otherwise, the differences in tonal quality are more to do with the G12H30 drivers than anything else.
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The people that mentioned to you that there is no difference do they have a Butterslax head? I'm thinking that Thump knob will directly affect those 15" fullbacks.
You and I are starting to get along JUST fine...oldmtlhed":3kahb2i8 said:Ventura":3kahb2i8 said:Let's talk - we could get this off the ground stat!! Maybe even do an IPO.
You used to be a recruiter for the Church of Scientology.... huh.![]()
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Build it up, do an IPO, then cash-out and disappear into the wind!
Yeah, we all love the "get rich quick off scamming others" scheme!
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Hey, "jobs" are non-existent now. It's ALL a "scam based" economy anyway.
I am more a fan of the works of L. Ron McKenzie personally...Ventura":3fb2c0rj said:You and I are starting to get along JUST fine...oldmtlhed":3fb2c0rj said:Ventura":3fb2c0rj said:Let's talk - we could get this off the ground stat!! Maybe even do an IPO.
You used to be a recruiter for the Church of Scientology.... huh.![]()
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Build it up, do an IPO, then cash-out and disappear into the wind!
Yeah, we all love the "get rich quick off scamming others" scheme!
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Hey, "jobs" are non-existent now. It's ALL a "scam based" economy anyway.
I knew scientology was going to be brought up as soon as I typed "next level". I knew there was going to be an astute reader who'd connect the dots on that one.
Personally I prefer to study under Zappa's "First Church of Appliantology, via L. Ron Hoover". Where members get to "plook" German made vacuum cleaners![]()
No, not necessarily. It means - theoretically - that when the speaker is fed 1W of power at [usually] 1KHz of frequency, it should throw off 99dB at 1m distance from the speaker.LunatiBSW":1k8yrjtq said:The sensitivity is actually 1 db lower on the 15 fullback than the 12" h30 from celestion. Meaning more sensitive correct?