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Tawlks
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So I've heard great things about the invader, Savage, Fireball and Blackmore, but not much love for the Powerball and haven't heard much about the SE.
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Sixtonoize
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The "best" Engl amp is entirely dependent on user preference.
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The one that makes you sound like Rammstein.
glpg80
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the best? a VH4 or possibly a cameron CCV.
the best engl? totally user preference for the engl style of tone you prefer - they each have a different character that some may like and others may not. my preference in engl's is the savage and fireball 60, of the two, the savage is a more versatile investment, so the savage.
the best engl? totally user preference for the engl style of tone you prefer - they each have a different character that some may like and others may not. my preference in engl's is the savage and fireball 60, of the two, the savage is a more versatile investment, so the savage.
Gsxrbusa
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Well Tawlks, out of the Engl lineup I have owned/tried (blackmore,fireball,powerball v2,savage,invader 150) The Invader gets my vote. With the Savage coming in close second. Fuckin channel 4 is just plain brutal with my setup. It also cutz thru nicely. Midi capabilty kicks ass too. Very good clean channel and overall the amp is very versitile. It's a keeper for me. 
shred-o-holic
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The most popular ENGL seems to be the SE which is the only one I haven't tried besides the new Fireball 100. Out of the ENGL's I've tried I like the Invader the best with the Savage coming in second......
AngryGoldfish
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I owned the Powerball for a while. I wasn't impressed with it, really.
The Special Edition models are nice, but I think the Blackmore is the best bang-for-your-buck.
I haven't tried an Invader or Savage.
As everyone has said, it's entirely subjective what is the "best". My personal favourite is the SE. But there are a shed load of amps I'd buy before I'd an ENGL. If someone gave me one as a gift, I'd be extremely grateful, but if we had an argument and stopped being friends, I'd quite happily sell it and buy a Baron instead.
The Special Edition models are nice, but I think the Blackmore is the best bang-for-your-buck.
I haven't tried an Invader or Savage.
As everyone has said, it's entirely subjective what is the "best". My personal favourite is the SE. But there are a shed load of amps I'd buy before I'd an ENGL. If someone gave me one as a gift, I'd be extremely grateful, but if we had an argument and stopped being friends, I'd quite happily sell it and buy a Baron instead.
glpg80
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the invader seems to try to do what a 5150 can do better. i can agree with the people who like the invader tone, but a cranked 5150 sounds much better - it covers that tone nicely.
spawnofthesith
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I liked my Morse when I had it, but I would have to say that I like the Savage tone better
Gsxrbusa
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I disagree. Have a/b'd the both of em on the same cab. Invader is smoother and more bottom end. And of course they were cranked.glpg80":3ngynrr6 said:
Invader cleans stomp 5150. To each their own 
Erock
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just like every other amp out, there is no best, just what you prefer for your tastes and styles. I happen to really like the SE.
Seems like the Blackmore is the most popular from what I've seen. Personally, I really dig the EL34 SE a lot. Really nice mid growl, thick tight lowend, and tons of saturation and gain. It was a bit too bright for my tastes at first, but an RFT in V1 seemed to be the ticket for me. I also liked the Blackmore a lot, but prefer the SE for the all out aggressive metal tones. REALLY want to get my hands on a Savage or Invader some time, or the Savage SE.shred-o-holic":1d40p9w7 said:
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meanstreet
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I had the Powerball and didn't care for it. LOVE the Steve Morse when I tried it out.
glpg80
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Gsxrbusa":xepxne1k said:I disagree. Have a/b'd the both of em on the same cab. Invader is smoother and more bottom end. And of course they were cranked.glpg80":xepxne1k said:
maybe i should reword what i said - a MM OT and choke running my modification series for 5150 II's - the 5150 does it better.
and ive never met a 5150 owner that cared about cleans
Les Zombie
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Blackmore, it's my fav of all the engls I owned.
I owned couple engl se, 3 powerballs, savage 120, invader 100 and 150, and the Steve morse. The powerball and engl se used to be my fav but I don't like the tone of the power all anymore and I'm not really into the se anymore either, I bought a Blackmore and because I got it for a great price and I figured I would try it fr a month, now that I've owned it for a while I can say I really love the tone and it's the best engl for me.
It's a really nice sounding amp and I'm glad I bought it and if I didn't own those other engls i wouldn't really be able to appreciate it, the savage 120 is another amp I really liked.
I owned couple engl se, 3 powerballs, savage 120, invader 100 and 150, and the Steve morse. The powerball and engl se used to be my fav but I don't like the tone of the power all anymore and I'm not really into the se anymore either, I bought a Blackmore and because I got it for a great price and I figured I would try it fr a month, now that I've owned it for a while I can say I really love the tone and it's the best engl for me.
It's a really nice sounding amp and I'm glad I bought it and if I didn't own those other engls i wouldn't really be able to appreciate it, the savage 120 is another amp I really liked.
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Holy-diver
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they are similar no?ZOMBIELAND":3qlm1bkg said:
i love the savage, i played one several months ago in holywood and have almost picked one up twice. i am pretty broke now though
i havent really liked any of the other engls i tried (morse, pb, fb)
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Tawlks
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Well, sorry I phrased that badly.
When I say best I mean favourite, in your opinion what is the bet ENGL amp?
Having only experience with a Powerball I can't compare models, it sounded really compressed to me, too much so for classic/hard rock, lead tones were liquid, overall I liked it but if spending that much money I'd look elsewhere.
But from what I've heard, and what style and tone I like, the Savage would be my favourite... ?
I currently play a 5150 II and long for nicer cleans, wouldn't mind it being slightly smoother and tighter.
When I say best I mean favourite, in your opinion what is the bet ENGL amp?
Having only experience with a Powerball I can't compare models, it sounded really compressed to me, too much so for classic/hard rock, lead tones were liquid, overall I liked it but if spending that much money I'd look elsewhere.
But from what I've heard, and what style and tone I like, the Savage would be my favourite... ?
I currently play a 5150 II and long for nicer cleans, wouldn't mind it being slightly smoother and tighter.
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Tawlks
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Gsxrbusa":24j4zmvh said:Well Tawlks, out of the Engl lineup I have owned/tried (blackmore,fireball,powerball v2,savage,invader 150) The Invader gets my vote. With the Savage coming in close second. Fuckin channel 4 is just plain brutal with my setup. It also cutz thru nicely. Midi capabilty kicks ass too. Very good clean channel and overall the amp is very versitile. It's a keeper for me.
Ooh awesome.
Gotta say man, I LOVE your setup. it's one of my favourite all time rigs, would love it. Would swap the Cobra for a 5150 or II but still great. I think those ISP Vector cabs look great. That's cool to hear, how does the 150 favour over the 100? From waht I've heard I'd like the Savage most so I'd like to hear about the Invader, I'm not looking to buy though!
AngryGoldfish
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That's my opinion, too. The leads sounded and felt mushy when I played them. It's not that there was too much bass - in fact it can be a really bright amp - it's more the fact that I felt wedged in this one sound, this one liquid sound that had no real punch or sensitivity.Tawlks":219mo9hc said:Well, sorry I phrased that badly.
When I say best I mean favourite, in your opinion what is the bet ENGL amp?
Having only experience with a Powerball I can't compare models, it sounded really compressed to me, too much so for classic/hard rock, lead tones were liquid, overall I liked it but if spending that much money I'd look elsewhere.
But from what I've heard, and what style and tone I like, the Savage would be my favourite... ?
I'm just bitchin', really. ENGL's just aren't my cup o' tea.
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xSPARKYx
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Had a Powerball but once I got the Invader 150 I sold it. the Invader is an incredible amp.
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Tawlks
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AngryGoldfish":sxs9bz7s said:That's my opinion, too. The leads sounded and felt mushy when I played them. It's not that there was too much bass - in fact it can be a really bright amp - it's more the fact that I felt wedged in this one sound, this one liquid sound that had no real punch or sensitivity.Tawlks":sxs9bz7s said:Well, sorry I phrased that badly.
When I say best I mean favourite, in your opinion what is the bet ENGL amp?
Having only experience with a Powerball I can't compare models, it sounded really compressed to me, too much so for classic/hard rock, lead tones were liquid, overall I liked it but if spending that much money I'd look elsewhere.
But from what I've heard, and what style and tone I like, the Savage would be my favourite... ?
I'm just bitchin', really. ENGL's just aren't my cup o' tea.
Yeah, I agree with that, I get the similar thing when I tried my CS-3 through my 5150 II, it's just so compressed it all comes out kinda the same, very mushy with no dynamics, some guys like it though.