Best way to run two heads simultaneously into one cab?

[mightyjoeyoungxnj]

Hey guys,

I plan on running my Plexi clone and a Soldano Avenger into one cab. I want the full midrange of the Plexi and lower mids of the Soldano.

Which device would work best for this?

Also, can the same device switch between this setup and say a clean combo? I plan on running a separate amp setup and pedalboard for my clean tone.

thanks

-Joe

 

[Little B]

There's many ways you can do that...depends how extravagant you wanna get...Off shelf items like the tonebone amp switcher,switchblade headswitcher,and loads of a/b/c boxes could do the trick..Make sure your ground loops are taken care of...The more intense switchers are from Bradshaw,Skrydstrup,Axxess,etc....Theyll make ya whatever ya want- for a price!.....I know a lot of guys that use multiple cabs and have thier own heads to each,and use on/ off boxes for each-mic em all up and youll have a lot of options that way

 

[hunter]

Hey guys,

I plan on running my Plexi clone and a Soldano Avenger into one cab. I want the full midrange of the Plexi and lower mids of the Soldano.

Which device would work best for this?

Also, can the same device switch between this setup and say a clean combo? I plan on running a separate amp setup and pedalboard for my clean tone.

thanks

-Joe

You want to run them simultaneously? Were you thinking to split the cab into stereo, so you can connect the two heads each on one side?

 

[Inca Roads]

Click this: Don't mention it.
http://www.tonebone.com/tb-headbone-vt.htm

 

[mightyjoeyoungxnj]

Thanks for the replies and suggestions. I was thinking of running them into one cab, not stereo. Is this ok, or is it a dumb idea?

-Joe

 

[cyndicate]

Thanks for the replies and suggestions. I was thinking of running them into one cab, not stereo. Is this ok, or is it a dumb idea?

-Joe

The Headbone VT does that I am using that right now with my heads. Just make sure if you do use FX in the loop that it isn't receiving a signal still when you are switching heads.

But with simultaenously, do you mean both of them running the signal into one cab at the same? Like a mix of the two? Or independent however just being able to use 1 cab?

 

[Inca Roads]

Thanks for the replies and suggestions. I was thinking of running them into one cab, not stereo. Is this ok, or is it a dumb idea?

-Joe

That's exactly what the Tonebone Radial VT Headbone
was designed for, Two heads into one cab. Your cab has to have
the Stereo/Mono switch on the back (switch it to stereo).
Lots of people do it, it just sounds much Fuller when each Head has its own Cab.
For that, they have an A/B/Y box, run up to 3 heads and cabs
at the same time.

 

[mightyjoeyoungxnj]

I was looking to run them both on, at the same time, both signals running through the cab at once. I may down the road go for two cabs, but for now it's just this one.

My cab will be a Stone Age 4x12 with one input, so I won't have the option of switching between stereo or not.

-Joe

 

[hunter]

Well at the same time there is no gear that can help you unless you make your cab stereo. You cannot "mix" two power amp outputs any other way.

I would simply install one of those Marshall backplates in the cab, that leaves you many options to run the cab:

 

[mightyjoeyoungxnj]

Well at the same time there is no gear that can help you unless you make your cab stereo. You cannot "mix" two power amp outputs any other way.

I would simply install one of those Marshall backplates in the cab, that leaves you many options to run the cab:

Ah, I see....didn't know that. Anyone know where I can obtain one of these?

thanks

-Joe

 

[mightyjoeyoungxnj]

Ok, I've found this one from Mojo:

https://www.mojomusicalsupply.com/item. ... id=9131205

I'm guessing this will be ok to use.

Also, should I order (4) 16ohm speakers or 8ohm? I usually buy 16ohm for a straight mono cab, but wasn't sure if it made a difference in this case. Ah crap, then I will need to cut a big ass hole in the backplate right? Damn.

thanks

-Joe

 

[Zachman]

I'm thinking--
* Guitar to pedals (If any) to A/B/Y box (set to A+B), to Amp's "A" and Amp "B" inputs
* Amp A's Speaker Output to Load Box "A", Amp B's Speaker Output to a Load Box "B"
* Line out of Load Box "A" & Load Box "B" to a mixer
* Mixer out-- to rack effects (If any) then re-amp through a power amp
* Power Amp's output to Cabinet

 

[mightyjoeyoungxnj]

I'm thinking--
* Guitar to pedals (If any) to A/B/Y box (set to A+B), to Amp's "A" and Amp "B" inputs
* Amp A's Speaker Output to Load Box "A", Amp B's Speaker Output to a Load Box "B"
* Line out of Load Box "A" & Load Box "B" to a mixer
* Mixer out-- to rack effects (If any) then re-amp through a power amp
* Power Amp's output to Cabinet

Thanks for the suggestion, but that seems overly complex for what I'm going for. At most I will have a delay, tubescreamer, tuner...Hmmm.

-Joe

 

[Zachman]

I'm thinking--
* Guitar to pedals (If any) to A/B/Y box (set to A+B), to Amp's "A" and Amp "B" inputs
* Amp A's Speaker Output to Load Box "A", Amp B's Speaker Output to a Load Box "B"
* Line out of Load Box "A" & Load Box "B" to a mixer
* Mixer out-- to rack effects (If any) then re-amp through a power amp
* Power Amp's output to Cabinet

Thanks for the suggestion, but that seems overly complex for what I'm going for. At most I will have a delay, tubescreamer, tuner...Hmmm.

-Joe

If you use a long delay-- be CAREFUL, not to blow up your gear-- using the other methods suggested.

Best of luck

Zach

 

[mightyjoeyoungxnj]

I'm thinking--
* Guitar to pedals (If any) to A/B/Y box (set to A+B), to Amp's "A" and Amp "B" inputs
* Amp A's Speaker Output to Load Box "A", Amp B's Speaker Output to a Load Box "B"
* Line out of Load Box "A" & Load Box "B" to a mixer
* Mixer out-- to rack effects (If any) then re-amp through a power amp
* Power Amp's output to Cabinet

Thanks for the suggestion, but that seems overly complex for what I'm going for. At most I will have a delay, tubescreamer, tuner...Hmmm.

-Joe

If you use a long delay-- be CAREFUL, not to blow up your gear-- using the other methods suggested.

Best of luck

Zach

How so??

Excuse my ignorance, I've just never dealt with complex setups before!

-Joe

 

[Zachman]

I'm thinking--
* Guitar to pedals (If any) to A/B/Y box (set to A+B), to Amp's "A" and Amp "B" inputs
* Amp A's Speaker Output to Load Box "A", Amp B's Speaker Output to a Load Box "B"
* Line out of Load Box "A" & Load Box "B" to a mixer
* Mixer out-- to rack effects (If any) then re-amp through a power amp
* Power Amp's output to Cabinet

Thanks for the suggestion, but that seems overly complex for what I'm going for. At most I will have a delay, tubescreamer, tuner...Hmmm.

-Joe

If you use a long delay-- be CAREFUL, not to blow up your gear-- using the other methods suggested.

Best of luck

Zach

How so??

Excuse my ignorance, I've just never dealt with complex setups before!

-Joe

Well, just make sure you don't accidentally hit the A+B setting changing it to A OR B, with a long delay running, as the feedback of the repeats can damage the relay in the selector and/or the OT of your unselected amp.

 

[mightyjoeyoungxnj]

I'm thinking--
* Guitar to pedals (If any) to A/B/Y box (set to A+B), to Amp's "A" and Amp "B" inputs
* Amp A's Speaker Output to Load Box "A", Amp B's Speaker Output to a Load Box "B"
* Line out of Load Box "A" & Load Box "B" to a mixer
* Mixer out-- to rack effects (If any) then re-amp through a power amp
* Power Amp's output to Cabinet

Thanks for the suggestion, but that seems overly complex for what I'm going for. At most I will have a delay, tubescreamer, tuner...Hmmm.

-Joe

If you use a long delay-- be CAREFUL, not to blow up your gear-- using the other methods suggested.

Best of luck

Zach

How so??

Excuse my ignorance, I've just never dealt with complex setups before!

-Joe

Well, just make sure you don't accidentally hit the A+B setting changing it to A OR B, with a long delay running, as the feedback of the repeats can damage the relay in the selector and/or the OT of your unselected amp.

Ah, gotcha...thanks!

-Joe

 

[Little B]

I think this may go against the grain of the way you want to run this; but you really get the best and truest tone from these heads if theyre sharing nothing;ie- heads going to thier own cabs,maybe if you dont hav the room,then 2x12's or oversized 1x12's.I'm a 4x12 & 2x12 man myself.Then, a simple a/b/y box will do the trick...check out Eric johnson's rig,Carl V's,Brent Mason's,Early Peter Frampton,and the list could go on, but Ive seen these rigs in person before, and while there's more going on in them,they all use a/b boxes and multiple cabs to get the job done.Its a purer signal path...just food for thought...

 

[Zachman]

I think this may go against the grain of the way you want to run this; but you really get the best and truest tone from these heads if theyre sharing nothing;ie- heads going to thier own cabs,

Well, just a thought-- While it's true that one gets a "truer tone" running heads individually, as opposed to blended, or slaved-- the combination of 2 heads that way is yet a different tone and seems like more of what the OP is going for.

Point (2) With an amp selector like my CAE, you can use heads individually into the same cabinet. My CAE rig shares all effects (Pre and Post) via which ever head is selected and controlled via a switching system. (Granted, not the route most take)

maybe if you dont hav the room,then 2x12's or oversized 1x12's.I'm a 4x12 & 2x12 man myself.Then, a simple a/b/y box will do the trick...check out Eric johnson's rig,Carl V's,Brent Mason's,Early Peter Frampton,and the list could go on, but Ive seen these rigs in person before, and while there's more going on in them,they all use a/b boxes and multiple cabs to get the job done.Its a purer signal path...just food for thought...

The stages the guys you listed play on are likely a bit roomier-- allowing for them to do what you're suggesting.

 

[D-Rock]

If the cab has a stereo option like Marshall (16 & 4 mono / 8 stereo) then couldn't you put the switch to stereo, then set each amp to 8 ohms and plug each into both of the cabs jacks? Wouldn't you then be running one amp at 8 ohms out the left 2 speakers and the other amp at 8 ohms out the 2 right speakers?