We need a device to run two heads into one cab

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I did this by accident.

When recording our second album, Dive Into the Great Blue Waffle, I wanted to add my Stiletto Trident into the mix with my guitarists Triple Rectifier. At the time, he was using a TC Electronic G Major in the loop for effects, and channel switching. Since the G Major is stereo, we hooked both heads up into G Major, and back to both amps into their own cabs. What we didn't know was that the G Major wasn't set up for true stereo, and both amps were summed to mono through the effects and back to both amps. The end was a uniquely blended mono signal sent to both amps. We didn't realize until in the studio that both captures were identical.
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Here's a track with a bitchin' solo I did on Kazoo too.
 
BeZo said:
At the time, he was using a TC Electronic G Major in the loop for effects, and channel switching. Since the G Major is stereo, we hooked both heads up into G Major, and back to both amps into their own cabs. What we didn't know was that the G Major wasn't set up for true stereo, and both amps were summed to mono through the effects and back to both amps. The end was a uniquely blended mono signal sent to both amps. We didn't realize until in the studio that both captures were identical.
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Serendipitous genius. I would have never thought about this. 👍. I’m going to look at my equipment today and see what units I have that can do this.
 
BeZo said:
I did this by accident.

When recording our second album, Dive Into the Great Blue Waffle, I wanted to add my Stiletto Trident into the mix with my guitarists Triple Rectifier. At the time, he was using a TC Electronic G Major in the loop for effects, and channel switching. Since the G Major is stereo, we hooked both heads up into G Major, and back to both amps into their own cabs. What we didn't know was that the G Major wasn't set up for true stereo, and both amps were summed to mono through the effects and back to both amps. The end was a uniquely blended mono signal sent to both amps. We didn't realize until in the studio that both captures were identical. View attachment 389496

Here's a track with a bitchin' solo I did on Kazoo too.
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Cool happenstance but still not achieving what the OP wanted.

The kittens and puppy’s were a nice touch I thought.
 
Bxlxaxkxe said:
Wish this existed without the need for a stereo cabinet. Kind of surprised it hasn’t been done yet unless it has and I’m not aware of it? To be clear, I’m talking about running them simultaneously and blending.

In theory, I can think of some ways to do this with load boxes and mixers, but an all in one device would be sick
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https://www.khe-audioelectronics.com/

Don’t these guys make just that?
 
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I emailed Ampete about this for their 442 and this was the reply…

I think there is a misunderstanding, two heads will never feed one cabinet, but only two (except for a speaker cabinet with stereo functionality of course). In the stereo mode the 442 will route two heads simultaneously but separately into the two cabinets. In the “rig” mode, the speaker signal of the amp is not routed back in the switcher but drives a speaker cab that is directly connected to the amp/combo, that runs in rig mode.

Let me know if that clarifies it. What’s the forum?

Peter Arends
Ampete Engineering
 
I don’t know if it’s a translation issue but they need to rethink their manual text because it explicitly says amp 1 and 2 are routed to cab 1 and Amp 3 amd 4 are routed to cab 2. It could be they intended to mean you can choose which amp is active going into their respective cab choices but not both at once, but that elaboration is lacking.
He replied again with the observation, that I was also wondering about, which is two amps together into the same cab are going to have major fly-back like issues with their OT’s. Amps of significant power differentials would have the bigger amp kill the lower one.

His second reply is below…

I see that is a little ambiguous. It is either amp 1 or 2. Thanks for providing the link.

Theoretically it can be done, but in a switcher it is not recommended, because if one would combine a Plexi with a 20W head, the Plexi will kill the 20W OT. In a controlled system it works.

Peter Arends
Ampete Engineering
 
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