Beware: '59 Burst Content

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Hes dreaming at $250K with a refin and broken peg head...just saying...but Angel is a Centerfold. lol
 
Yeah, I saw that after I posted the link. I can't believe he's even angling for a full $250k with a headstock repair, a refinish and non-original hardware!

:loco:

And to think that I almost clicked on "Buy It Now".....

:lol: :LOL:
 
rlord1974":u0ivpkmx said:
Yeah, I saw that after I posted the link. I can't believe he's even angling for a full $250k with a headstock repair, a refinish and non-original hardware!

:loco:

And to think that I almost clicked on "Buy It Now".....

:lol: :LOL:
Yeah :dunno:

Maybe he thinks his celebrity is worth more than it is...?
 
Les Paul idiots don't care about headstocks cracked, but the refin and hardware will be an issue. Probably get $175
 
Ancient Alien":36jnxh6e said:
Les Paul idiots don't care about headstocks cracked, but the refin and hardware will be an issue. Probably get $175

No disrespect but you are incorrect, repaired neck guitars are a huge issue, In this market you can buy a plain top, worn but all original and not broken starter Burst for $120-130K.

Beautiful flamey no issue Bursts are $300-$400K.

A refin is another huge no no, changed parts can be fixed. No way in hell he gets anywhere near $175K. That guitar is worth maybe $90-$100K.

Brad
 
King Guitar":2ruj1enp said:
Hes dreaming at $250K with a refin and broken peg head...just saying...but Angel is a Centerfold. lol
Perfectly stated. This was my opine in the other thread that discussed this axe. Too rich for not stock.

Maybe knock a zero off and we'd be in the right ballpark.
 
King Guitar":2khyhcse said:
Ancient Alien":2khyhcse said:
Les Paul idiots don't care about headstocks cracked, but the refin and hardware will be an issue. Probably get $175

No disrespect but you are incorrect, repaired neck guitars are a huge issue, In this market you can buy a plain top, worn but all original and not broken starter Burst for $120-130K.

Beautiful flamey no issue Bursts are $300-$400K.

A refin is another huge no no, changed parts can be fixed. No way in hell he gets anywhere near $175K. That guitar is worth maybe $90-$100K.

Brad

Attach a famous musician and hit songs to a guitar and it's worth much more than your closet queen. :yes:
 
Badronald":39pe9zss said:
King Guitar":39pe9zss said:
Ancient Alien":39pe9zss said:
Les Paul idiots don't care about headstocks cracked, but the refin and hardware will be an issue. Probably get $175

No disrespect but you are incorrect, repaired neck guitars are a huge issue, In this market you can buy a plain top, worn but all original and not broken starter Burst for $120-130K.

Beautiful flamey no issue Bursts are $300-$400K.

A refin is another huge no no, changed parts can be fixed. No way in hell he gets anywhere near $175K. That guitar is worth maybe $90-$100K.

Brad

Attach a famous musician and hit songs to a guitar and it's worth much more than your closet queen. :yes:

Maybe for some new high end guitar but not typically for Les Paul Sunburst guitars from 1958-1960. They have their own following based on what they are regardless of who played them. Certain exceptions apply like Claptons guitar or Gibbons "Pearly Gates" but in general a burst played by a run of the mill pop/rock star will have no more value than one from the barn in Nebraska.
 
King Guitar":ebnxv3lh said:
Badronald":ebnxv3lh said:
King Guitar":ebnxv3lh said:
Ancient Alien":ebnxv3lh said:
Les Paul idiots don't care about headstocks cracked, but the refin and hardware will be an issue. Probably get $175

No disrespect but you are incorrect, repaired neck guitars are a huge issue, In this market you can buy a plain top, worn but all original and not broken starter Burst for $120-130K.

Beautiful flamey no issue Bursts are $300-$400K.

A refin is another huge no no, changed parts can be fixed. No way in hell he gets anywhere near $175K. That guitar is worth maybe $90-$100K.

Brad

Attach a famous musician and hit songs to a guitar and it's worth much more than your closet queen. :yes:


Maybe for some new high end guitar but not typically for Les Paul Sunburst guitars from 1958-1960. They have their own following based on what they are regardless of who played them. Certain exceptions apply like Claptons guitar or Gibbons "Pearly Gates" but in general a burst played by a run of the mill pop/rock star will have no more value than one from the barn in Nebraska.

J Geils run of the mill pop star? Oh that's rich.
Don't know how old you are but I remember a day when J Geils OWNED the airwaves and was a HUGE concert draw. Do some research brother.
 
Badronald":24tclesk said:
King Guitar":24tclesk said:
Badronald":24tclesk said:
King Guitar":24tclesk said:
Ancient Alien":24tclesk said:
Les Paul idiots don't care about headstocks cracked, but the refin and hardware will be an issue. Probably get $175

No disrespect but you are incorrect, repaired neck guitars are a huge issue, In this market you can buy a plain top, worn but all original and not broken starter Burst for $120-130K.

Beautiful flamey no issue Bursts are $300-$400K.

A refin is another huge no no, changed parts can be fixed. No way in hell he gets anywhere near $175K. That guitar is worth maybe $90-$100K.

Brad

Attach a famous musician and hit songs to a guitar and it's worth much more than your closet queen. :yes:


Maybe for some new high end guitar but not typically for Les Paul Sunburst guitars from 1958-1960. They have their own following based on what they are regardless of who played them. Certain exceptions apply like Claptons guitar or Gibbons "Pearly Gates" but in general a burst played by a run of the mill pop/rock star will have no more value than one from the barn in Nebraska.

J Geils run of the mill pop star? Oh that's rich.
Don't know how old you are but I remember a day when J Geils OWNED the airwaves and was a HUGE concert draw. Do some research brother.

My man Ronald, not trying to be a dick but I think I am pretty qualified to speak on the 1958-1960 Gibson Les Paul Sunburst values. For the record Im 41 and I am well aware of J Giles and I live in New England (Jay is from Mass), I know who he is and what he did. He is no Eric Clapton as far as star power enhancing a Bursts value, it certainly happens but thats some pretty thin air up in that company with the likes of Eric, Duane, Billy, Peter and Mike, not J Giles my man.

Not to get into a pissing match but I have owned and sold one half dozen real Les Paul "Bursts" in my lifetime and dozens of 1950's Les Paul Goldtops and Customs including selling Kirk Hammett his 1958 Les Paul Goldtop and Dean DeLeo from STP his 1956 Les Paul Goldtop. I also sold Danny Gattons 1955 Les Paul Custom to Eric Johnson so lets just say I have done my research on these guitars and I know what they sell for and conversely I have a very educated opinion as to value. ;) :thumbsup: :cheers:

I like J Giles and his music but that guitar aint worth anywhere near $250k thats all I am saying.
 
I can think of one example where the celebrity factor added to the value of a burst (with a broken headstock) in a big way...the Peter Greene/Gary Moore guitar put $1M in Gary's pocket when he sold it.
 
King Guitar":3bed3f88 said:
Badronald":3bed3f88 said:
King Guitar":3bed3f88 said:
Badronald":3bed3f88 said:
King Guitar":3bed3f88 said:
Ancient Alien":3bed3f88 said:
Les Paul idiots don't care about headstocks cracked, but the refin and hardware will be an issue. Probably get $175

No disrespect but you are incorrect, repaired neck guitars are a huge issue, In this market you can buy a plain top, worn but all original and not broken starter Burst for $120-130K.

Beautiful flamey no issue Bursts are $300-$400K.

A refin is another huge no no, changed parts can be fixed. No way in hell he gets anywhere near $175K. That guitar is worth maybe $90-$100K.

Brad

Attach a famous musician and hit songs to a guitar and it's worth much more than your closet queen. :yes:


Maybe for some new high end guitar but not typically for Les Paul Sunburst guitars from 1958-1960. They have their own following based on what they are regardless of who played them. Certain exceptions apply like Claptons guitar or Gibbons "Pearly Gates" but in general a burst played by a run of the mill pop/rock star will have no more value than one from the barn in Nebraska.

J Geils run of the mill pop star? Oh that's rich.
Don't know how old you are but I remember a day when J Geils OWNED the airwaves and was a HUGE concert draw. Do some research brother.

My man Ronald, not trying to be a dick but I think I am pretty qualified to speak on the 1958-1960 Gibson Les Paul Sunburst values. For the record Im 41 and I am well aware of J Giles and I live in New England (Jay is from Mass), I know who he is and what he did. He is no Eric Clapton as far as star power enchaining a Bursts value, thats some pretty thin air with the likes of Eric, Duane, Billy, Peter and Mike, not J Giles my man.

Not to get into a pissing match but I have owned and sold one half dozen real Les Paul "Bursts" in my lifetime and dozens of 1950's Les Paul Goldtops and Customs including selling Kirk Hammett his 1958 Les Paul Goldtop and Dean DeLeo from STP his 1956 Les Paul Goldtop. I also sold Danny Gattons 1955 Les Paul Custom to Eric Johnson so lets just say I have done my research on these guitars and I know what they sell for and conversely I have a very educated opinion as to value. ;) :thumbsup: :cheers:

I like J Giles and his music but that guitar aint worth anywhere near $250k thats all I am saying.
Oh snap....
 
rupe":1g3yidza said:
I can think of one example where the celebrity factor added to the value of a burst (with a broken headstock) in a big way...the Peter Greene/Gary Moore guitar put $1M in Gary's pocket when he sold it.

Thats why I mentioned Peter above in the exception list. :thumbsup:
 
Lets call a spade a spade here. This is not the LP used on the Beano album. It doesn't matter if Christ played it and repaired the head himself. It looks like it was thrown out of and dragged behind a Mack dump truck.
 
More guitar colector crap......................

The Edge's famous Explorer has a repaired headstock and has been more to rock than Green's LP so maybe $2,000,000? Jimmy Page's must be worth $5,000,000 and comes with secret service fucking protection. Vai's first JEM must be worth a shit ton since it launched the 2nd most sold guitar in history the RG series.

What next?? Bob Villa's fucking hammer going for $100,000 since we are talking about tools?

The refin issue is bullshit as well, form follows function and since people say "Nobody can build a 59 LP" well then paint is a non issue. The body is the grail regardless of condition. Tell me and prove I am wrong. I am sure someone will chime in stating the tone qualities of stains in 1959......................................

Happy Easter btw.......................
 
I'm thinking 90K tops for this one. But hey, there are all sorts of nuts out there...who knows!
 
King Guitar":d0abae9e said:
rupe":d0abae9e said:
I can think of one example where the celebrity factor added to the value of a burst (with a broken headstock) in a big way...the Peter Greene/Gary Moore guitar put $1M in Gary's pocket when he sold it.

Thats why I mentioned Peter above in the exception list. :thumbsup:
Missed that :cheers:
 
rupe":8mk72tse said:
I can think of one example where the celebrity factor added to the value of a burst (with a broken headstock) in a big way...the Peter Greene/Gary Moore guitar put $1M in Gary's pocket when he sold it.
rupe, no disrespect brother, but Gary Moore is my area of expertise and I was threatened with a lawsuit over what I know about the sale.
Gary got under $600K US for the guitar, he had to pay a 10% brokers fee as well.
Nobody got $1million dollars. A lot of the hype came from a certain guitar dealer who hyped up the sale but it was Melvyn Franks who was the only buyer of the guitar..
I am Atomic Playboy and I approve this message.. :yes:
 
Digital Jams":16xtu00p said:
What next?? Bob Villa's fucking hammer going for $100,000 since we are talking about tools?
Bobs Villa's the Milli Vanilli of building. Now if it was Norms hammer :D :2thumbsup: or Bob the builder :D
 
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