Chris6870
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Not sure if this was posted, I never saw this before. Pretty awesome.
http://www.bobdaisley.com/content/blizz ... holy-grail
http://www.bobdaisley.com/content/blizz ... holy-grail
That's a long shot at best...in fact I have to call it bullshit IMO. Bob wrote the lyrics, Randy composed the bulk of the music. Which of those two aspects of Ozzy's early material gets more attention? And if you've read anything about the early days, its hard to believe that the project would have ever gotten off of the ground without Sharon's management style. I can't stand her but she was the driving force behind all of it...there likely wouldn't have been anything for either Bob or Randy to contribute to without her manhandling of Ozzy. Bob was certainly crucial, but no more so than the other two you mentioned.Business":3kyoq8r9 said:Bob Daisley... the main reason Ozzy ever got a solo career (sorry Randy fans... and Sharon fans, if those even exist)
Business":3m6tkzcu said:Bob Daisley... the main reason Ozzy ever got a solo career (sorry Randy fans... and Sharon fans, if those even exist)
Business":4eol6lf5 said:Sorry Randy fanboys, but Daisley wrote those tracks
Up to No More Tears, then Ozzy's material started to suck, weird coincidence
metalmaniac93":3318jxmy said:Business":3318jxmy said:Sorry Randy fanboys, but Daisley wrote those tracks
Up to No More Tears, then Ozzy's material started to suck, weird coincidence
Daisley did not write the guitar riffs and of course had nothing to do with the guitar solos. It was actually Daisley and Rhoads for all of the music except one track on Blizzard where Kerslake co-wrote. Daisley wrote all of the lyrics and Ozzy contributed a bit on the melodies. A lot of this information is in Daisley's book "For Facts Sake".
You're simply wrong...a lot of those riffs can be heard from Randy's days in Quiet Riot (or did Daisley write that material as well?). You have no clue what you're talking about...seems to be a theme with you.Business":wxlkrbhm said:Sorry Randy fanboys, but Daisley wrote those tracks
Up to No More Tears, then Ozzy's material started to suck, weird coincidence
rupe":nn3c31fk said:You're simply wrong...a lot of those riffs can be heard from Randy's days in Quiet Riot (or did Daisley write that material as well?). You have no clue what you're talking about...seems to be a theme with you.Business":nn3c31fk said:Sorry Randy fanboys, but Daisley wrote those tracks
Up to No More Tears, then Ozzy's material started to suck, weird coincidence
Business":5pfg03hs said:metalmaniac93":5pfg03hs said:Business":5pfg03hs said:Sorry Randy fanboys, but Daisley wrote those tracks
Up to No More Tears, then Ozzy's material started to suck, weird coincidence
Daisley did not write the guitar riffs and of course had nothing to do with the guitar solos. It was actually Daisley and Rhoads for all of the music except one track on Blizzard where Kerslake co-wrote. Daisley wrote all of the lyrics and Ozzy contributed a bit on the melodies. A lot of this information is in Daisley's book "For Facts Sake".
Yes, Randy of course contributed. Daisley just gets no respect or recognition for what he did, and that was write good songs. Since he's been gone, Ozzy's career has been musically pathetic
And neither do lyrics. It was a collaborative effort so I'm not sure why you take the position that Daisley's input was more important than Randy's...it was a joint effort. And ultimately it was the riffs and solos that brought those albums to the forefront, not the messages in the lyrics.Business":1fvfn5e1 said:rupe":1fvfn5e1 said:You're simply wrong...a lot of those riffs can be heard from Randy's days in Quiet Riot (or did Daisley write that material as well?). You have no clue what you're talking about...seems to be a theme with you.Business":1fvfn5e1 said:Sorry Randy fanboys, but Daisley wrote those tracks
Up to No More Tears, then Ozzy's material started to suck, weird coincidence
A riff doesn't make a whole song
Do you own those first 2 Quiet Riot albums? How's the songwriting on it? Crap? Yes indeed.
rupe":23rr6buy said:And neither do lyrics. It was a collaborative effort so I'm not sure why you take the position that Daisley's input was more important than Randy's...it was a joint effort. And ultimately it was the riffs and solos that brought those albums to the forefront, not the messages in the lyrics.Business":23rr6buy said:rupe":23rr6buy said:You're simply wrong...a lot of those riffs can be heard from Randy's days in Quiet Riot (or did Daisley write that material as well?). You have no clue what you're talking about...seems to be a theme with you.Business":23rr6buy said:Sorry Randy fanboys, but Daisley wrote those tracks
Up to No More Tears, then Ozzy's material started to suck, weird coincidence
A riff doesn't make a whole song
Do you own those first 2 Quiet Riot albums? How's the songwriting on it? Crap? Yes indeed.
As for QR, yeah those songs weren't great, but Randy exhibited immense growth between then and BOO, and then again from BOO to DOAM (with very little time between them). He was on a rocket-like trajectory that unfortunately we'll never know where it might have taken him.
And as much as it pains me to say it, Sharon's importance was immense. Even after the band was formed and the songs were written, she wrestled control away from her father and promoted the project in a manner that he never would have as he had grown tired of Ozzy's antics and had essentially given up on him.
None of this is to discount Daisley's importance...rather to discount the statement that he was the "main reason" for Ozzy's solo success.
Business":2ojl845m said:rupe":2ojl845m said:And neither do lyrics. It was a collaborative effort so I'm not sure why you take the position that Daisley's input was more important than Randy's...it was a joint effort. And ultimately it was the riffs and solos that brought those albums to the forefront, not the messages in the lyrics.Business":2ojl845m said:rupe":2ojl845m said:You're simply wrong...a lot of those riffs can be heard from Randy's days in Quiet Riot (or did Daisley write that material as well?). You have no clue what you're talking about...seems to be a theme with you.Business":2ojl845m said:Sorry Randy fanboys, but Daisley wrote those tracks
Up to No More Tears, then Ozzy's material started to suck, weird coincidence
A riff doesn't make a whole song
Do you own those first 2 Quiet Riot albums? How's the songwriting on it? Crap? Yes indeed.
As for QR, yeah those songs weren't great, but Randy exhibited immense growth between then and BOO, and then again from BOO to DOAM (with very little time between them). He was on a rocket-like trajectory that unfortunately we'll never know where it might have taken him.
And as much as it pains me to say it, Sharon's importance was immense. Even after the band was formed and the songs were written, she wrestled control away from her father and promoted the project in a manner that he never would have as he had grown tired of Ozzy's antics and had essentially given up on him.
None of this is to discount Daisley's importance...rather to discount the statement that he was the "main reason" for Ozzy's solo success.
I agree with much of what you're saying
Why do I say Daisley was more important than Randy? 10 more years. I wasn't talking BOO or DOAM exclusively. I don't get the perception that he wrote lyrics only; he wrote lyrics AND music, sometimes with Randy/others, sometimes by himself
Read this
http://www.bobdaisley.com/content/blizzard-ozz-and-holy-grail
BOO and DOAM to me are what put him back on the map and launched his solo career which is why I took that position. By the time BATM and later albums came out, they were highly anticipated...the solo career had already been "got" by that point.Business":2ojl845m said:Bob Daisley... the main reason Ozzy ever got a solo career