Bought a Ceriatone Chupacabra 50 today!

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I should have it early next week. I'm pretty psyched. I'm playing through a Marshall Dsl40c combo now, and although it's good, it's never really gotten me "there".

Does anyone have any pointers about the Chupacabra that they'd like to share?
 
Sounds great with G12M-25 Greenbacks.

My suggestion is to only use one bright switch at a time. Not both. Engage one to the left and leave the other in the center. Then, whichever bright is to the left, drop the gain for that switch down below 12:00 (I like it around 10:00), while running the other gain higher past 12:00 somewhere to taste (the gain knob over the switch left in the center). Then run everything else to taste. But I personally like the presence around 10:30, Depth to taste (but run opposite bass. So if bass is high, depth is low and vice versa), mids very high (like 2:30 or 3:00), and treble around 11:00. Master to taste. Those are my preferred settings regardless of clipping switch in '80s or modern. I never use the amp with the diode clipping off.

Speakers make a huge difference. The amp gets along best IMO with Greenbacks or similar.

While both gains and bright switches are technically the same, there is a slight sonic difference to which one you use. I find V1 to be a bit brighter than V2 in every amp of this type. Mostly because each switch affects a different gain stage. And V1a tends to be slightly brighter. So play around with which bright switch you engage to the left along with dropping its corresponding gain knob.

The bright switches do less and less the higher you set the gain. That's why you should reduce the gain over whichever bright switch you use and then raise the other gain to compensate.

I don't like the bright switches to the right (treble boost). I prefer one of them set to the left (mid-range boost). The Chupa is a bright amp and too much bright switches + presence + treble + V30 speakers = harsh and fizzy. Everything in moderation.

I've played around with tubes as well. I prefer JJ E34L or NOS RFT EL34. Either one, biased cold. Around 60%. The amp will get tighter and meaner and less fizzy.
 
Thanks for the recommendations. Can it run 6ca7 tubes? And how is the effects loop? I've read it's not so great. I like to run a delay, reverb, and an eq boost in the loop on my DSL40.
 
I've never tried 6CA7s, but should work. Depending on the brand, some are beam tetrodes vs beam pentodes. I've never had problems with the loop. But all I run is delay. It's just an insert loop like you'd find in most Marshalls. Not sure what the DSL40's loop is though.
 
I also emailed Nik yesterday for speaker recommendations, and he said V30s or Creambacks. I would've thought they wouldn't pair well with it. Funny thing is, my 212 current has a Veteran 30 and ET65 pair in it right now.
 
I really don't like the Chupacabra with V30s. I have creambacks as well. But I prefer the regular ol' Greenbacks.
 
ledvedder":3no96mmc said:
I should have it early next week. I'm pretty psyched. I'm playing through a Marshall Dsl40c combo now, and although it's good, it's never really gotten me "there".

Does anyone have any pointers about the Chupacabra that they'd like to share?

So the Splawn you had a while back didn`t do it for you ?
 
hammered":1b3yzd5n said:
ledvedder":1b3yzd5n said:
I should have it early next week. I'm pretty psyched. I'm playing through a Marshall Dsl40c combo now, and although it's good, it's never really gotten me "there".

Does anyone have any pointers about the Chupacabra that they'd like to share?

So the Splawn you had a while back didn`t do it for you ?

Well, at that time, I was getting ready to buy a house, so I sold it. It was a good amp though.
 
You bastard, I've wanted one for quite sometime, just keep getting side tracked by other amps.

Congrats!!! Enjoy it :rock:
 
FourT6and2":3tcmv79b said:
I really don't like the Chupacabra with V30s. I have creambacks as well. But I prefer the regular ol' Greenbacks.

Do you think a 212 with greenbacks would be cutting it to close?
 
ledvedder":69xn5xkq said:
FourT6and2":69xn5xkq said:
I really don't like the Chupacabra with V30s. I have creambacks as well. But I prefer the regular ol' Greenbacks.

Do you think a 212 with greenbacks would be cutting it to close?

One typically wants the total speaker handling to be twice that of the amp. So a 100-watt cab for a 50-watt amp and a 200-watt cab for a 100-watt amp. But the Chupa's phase inverter section lowers the output of the amp a bit. And if you're using the diode clipping I think you'll be fine. Another option for speakers would be the G12M-65 Creambacks. I hear they are similar to the Greenbacks. The G12H-75 Creambacks are probably a bit too bright for this amp (I have those in another cab). The regular G12-65 speakers are probably too dark. But maybe the 65 Creambacks are a good middle ground. They handle more power so two of them will be fine.

Regular Greenbacks sound the best. I don't think you'll have issues with them in a 2x12. But it would be cutting it close if you ever run the amp without the diodes engaged, and cranked up super loud.
 
Twice the rating of the amp? Combo amps wouldn't exist if this were true. Fuck that shit. Ed used to crank 100w super leads through 4 20w greenbacks! Pushing speakers hard is what makes them punch and MOVE AIR!
 
Bloodrock":17u5wx9a said:
Twice the rating of the amp? Combo amps wouldn't exist if this were true. Fuck that shit. Ed used to crank 100w super leads through 4 20w greenbacks! Pushing speakers hard is what makes them punch and MOVE AIR!

Do whatever you want man. Pro musicians have crews of people working for them to replace speakers when they blow after a concert.

For example, there's a rig rundown with John Wesley of Porcupine Tree out there on YT somewhere and he runs Greenbacks in his cab with a Cameron-modded amp and he explicitly says he blows speakers after every other show or so because he's running a cranked 100-watt amp into a 100-watt cab. It will depend on the amp as well. Not all amps put out the same amount of power. The Framus Cobra cab is 100 watts with Greenbacks, for example. And it works fine with the Cobra because that amp ain't putting out the same amount of power, cranked, as an amp like a non-master Marshall or even an amp like the Chupacabra when you're running it like a NMV amp.

If you set the Chupa up in diode clipping and crank it, and then you accidentally turn the diodes off without turning the volume down, you WILL blow a speaker.

If you play the Chupa as a cranked old-school Marshall by running the master at 100% and you're running only two Greenbacks, you're gonna blow the speaker fairly soon. So yes, the rule of thumb for reliability is 50 watt amp = 100 watt cab. 100 watt amp = at least 200 watt cab.
 
Do you guys seriously crank amps that have lots of preamp gain like this one?
 
godgrinder":1oj0aeol said:
Do you guys seriously crank amps that have lots of preamp gain like this one?

This amp has three modes. One makes the amp behave just like a non-master-volume Marshall. Like a Super Lead. You can also choose to run it just like a JCM800. The other two modes have diode clipping. And they both drop the volume of the amp. So you need to compensate by running the master much higher. If you run the amp with diodes off... then yes... you would crank the sucker loud. Just like a Super Lead. And the amp will put out way more than 50 watts...
 
I honestly can't imagine ever running it higher than halfway. I've never gotten my DSL past 5.
 
ledvedder":1bgn346b said:
I honestly can't imagine ever running it higher than halfway. I've never gotten my DSL past 5.

If you don't crank the amp you've got nothing to worry about. :)
 
Even if you crank the amp you have nothing to worry about.
 
At the moment, I have 1 greenback and 1 WGS et65 in my cab.
 
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