Can anyone tell me why this is so expensive ?

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I had a focus 3000 back in I want to say 87, that I brought brand new and remember it being just over $400.00
I could've sworn that these focus's came out a little later on.. my headstock read Kramer and below it was focus 3000 whereas these were the opposite.

Edited.. Just read some history on them as I forgot the exact dates.. so these were made earlier as a kind of precursor to the Baretta ? More resembling a pacer though ?

Over 2k for this :confused: :confused:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Authent ... 20fdd859fa
 
alienxnation charges way over average asking. They do have some nice guitars though.
 
Put that money towards a used VH4. Great amp! Way better than a 5153.
 
I'd rather take the 2k and buy a brand new Splawn quick rod with some left over.
I would have 2 amps that shit on the vh4 rather than just one. Splawn QR would eat it up on gear one alone.
 
Kramers are wierd. It's hard to tell where that thing was made. At one point in the earlyto mid 80's Kramer made everything in the Neptune NJ plant. Late 80's almost nothing was made there except the Specter bass guitars. All the top of the line Kramers were all basically ESP's, even the Nightswans. The parts were shipped in from ESP and the guitars were just assembled in NJ, the mid level and lower line Kramers were all Hondo's imported in. When I worked there we removed all the tags that said Made In Korea or Tawain and replaced them with "Proud To Be An American Company"

I only worked there for around 6 months. No surprise they went down the shitter.
 
danyeo":8biyx873 said:
Kramers are wierd. It's hard to tell where that thing was made. At one point in the earlyto mid 80's Kramer made everything in the Neptune NJ plant. Late 80's almost nothing was made there except the Specter bass guitars. All the top of the line Kramers were all basically ESP's, even the Nightswans. The parts were shipped in from ESP and the guitars were just assembled in NJ, the mid level and lower line Kramers were all Hondo's imported in. When I worked there we removed all the tags that said Made In Korea or Tawain and replaced them with "Proud To Be An American Company"

I only worked there for around 6 months. No surprise they went down the shitter.
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:lol: :LOL: Wow. Just wow. I thought about buying a vintage Baretta a few months ago, then found a nice mint Hamer USA for a deal. Then I thought about a vintage Focus, esp made...2-300 bucks. Never new most Kramer's were esp anyway. Not that its a bad thing....but I assumed the Baretta was USA. Focus for 300..made by ESP..or Baretta USA for 1K...made by ESP!
 
Yeah, I don't know what I'm missing here...they want 2K for a guitar that I can buy for 3-400 at Guitar Center.com?? There are 4 on their website right now???? They all look clean..vintage 80s.....?
 
That AlienX guy is a joke. Everything he lists for sale is like 10x normal price.83-84 Barettas bring over $1k because of EVH. That guitar has the big hockey stick headstock like the 83 Baretta.83 Focus is basically the budget model of an 83 Bareretta that EVH had in the no bozo ad. Probably why he thinks it's worth a lot. I bought a Focus with an OFR for $225 off Music Go Round last year.
 
I had a focus 1000 in the early eighties I bought brand new for about $700 I believe it was... It said on the neck plate "Neptune NJ" but mine had a pointy headstock and was hot pink.... gotta love the eighties...lol.

it definitely wasn't a great guitar even back then so I can't see how it could be worth much today unless I'm missing something...
 
http://www.vintagekramer.com/focus.htm

I had a Kramer Focus 2000. It was my first playable guitar. I bought it in 1984 (or 83?) for $225 from my older brother's college roommate. I played that until exclusively through '86 and continued to play after I got "better" guitars until I finally bailed on it in early '88. It was a surprisingly good guitar. Mine had the original Floyd with no fine tuners but it stayed in tune well. About 10 years ago (I'm somewhat guessing) I bought a pallet of old Kramer parts (bodies, necks, and every other part on a guitar including Floyds, pickups, etc.) from someone who was selling off the remnants of Kramer. It was DIRT cheap. Paid $350 I think shipped and I was able to put 15 complete Floyd units together. I built about a dozen guitars from it and then parted stuff off for a while and then sold the rest of it all for a considerable profit and this was way before Kramer reemerged. There were parts from most eras and I believe it was mostly ESP made. Last time I looked on Ebay, I was dying laughing. People asking $20 to $100 for a trussrod cover. I had several quart sized bags of trussrod covers, backplates, and every other plastic part. When I sold stuff the rest of what I had, you couldn't get a nickel for any of it.
 
Looked at the Ebay ad. Yikes, what does a Beretta go for these days? I can't even look. Lot's of decent 80's guitars in a similar mold going for cheap:
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/msg/5061007154.html

It amazes me what a few popular endorsements will do to gear prices. Could be a fantastic investment if you could predict it. Of course you would have to strike while the prices were high as they're sure to fall as fast as they rose.
 
This is reminiscent of the mid-80's when everyone was playing hot pink and green hair metal guitars and you couldn't give Les Pauls away. Then Slash showed up on MTV holding a Les Paul and the prices shot thru the roof almost overnight. :)
 
romanianreaper":1ew5x5tm said:
This is reminiscent of the mid-80's when everyone was playing hot pink and green hair metal guitars and you couldn't give Les Pauls away. Then Slash showed up on MTV holding a Les Paul and the prices shot thru the roof almost overnight. :)
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i remember it ALMOST to the day. a local store had a wineburst red custom that i was saving for in 1987....and literally i swear, 2 weeks later, i had the 100$ to put down on it, and it had gone from 700$ to 2050.00....it hung on that wall for near 8 years!!! I went back to buy it again after i got out of the army and it was gone. i ended up with a different red les paul that i love just as equally, but still..... i've never seen one like it, and probably never will....it had a mythical deep red, figured top that had this really slight flame/burnished look to it....

:cry:
 
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