Can you guys see what's serial number of this recto??

[GJgo]

As much as we like to geek out on the Rev C-F, myself included, for the OP- remember that the G is still the sound of the 90s. When I want to get this specific WHUMP sound out of a Recto, the C-F & Multi-Watt (F in sheep's clothing) just won't quite get there.

 

[braintheory]

As much as we like to geek out on the Rev C-F, myself included, for the OP- remember that the G is still the sound of the 90s. When I want to get this specific WHUMP sound out of a Recto, the C-F & Multi-Watt (F in sheep's clothing) just won't quite get there.

No argument there, but the question is if one wants to nail the sound of a band in the '90's or just try to get the best sound they can (for what they like of course) without concern about what era or style their sound would be classified as. I don't think the majority of recto users are necessarily trying to nail a '90's sound, but maybe I'm wrong and the the C or D I think is what the 90's should've been instead haha

 

[GJgo]

I believe that there's a pretty wide berth between the average Recto player and guys like us geeking out on high end gear forums. For example, most guys I know personally that own Rectos do their own thing and don't socialize about gear. I'd suspect by Recto serial numbers alone, since they've made over 60K Rectos by now, that these guys outnumber us forumites as much as 1000:1.

So then, I do believe the average Recto player is trying to emulate the sounds their favorite bands that used them made, just like the average (high gain) Mark player is trying to emulate Metallica sounds. Just purely by the numbers & probabilities.

That being said, I agree that the Rev C is- among the Recto family- THE best tone & feel. However, I see it is a hybrid between a Rev F and a Mark III and not really a traditional "recto" sound. However, it is a holdover from the 80s hard rock / Metal sound and I totally get how & why the Rev G came to be- and it was smart on Mesas part- to quickly adapt to the brand new sounds that quickly took over.

 

[braintheory]

I believe that there's a pretty wide berth between the average Recto player and guys like us geeking out on high end gear forums. For example, most guys I know personally that own Rectos do their own thing and don't socialize about gear. I'd suspect by Recto serial numbers alone, since they've made over 60K Rectos by now, that these guys outnumber us forumites as much as 1000:1.

So then, I do believe the average Recto player is trying to emulate the sounds their favorite bands that used them made, just like the average (high gain) Mark player is trying to emulate Metallica sounds. Just purely by the numbers & probabilities.

That being said, I agree that the Rev C is- among the Recto family- THE best tone & feel. However, I see it is a hybrid between a Rev F and a Mark III and not really a traditional "recto" sound. However, it is a holdover from the 80s hard rock / Metal sound and I totally get how & why the Rev G came to be- and it was smart on Mesas part- to quickly adapt to the brand new sounds that quickly took over.

I get how many see the mark resemblance, but to me I think it’s sound is all recto, just better. I guess it’s mark-like in being more 3D and better, quicker in feel and response, but it doesn’t to me really have a mark-like tone (not as smooth, tight or dense in the note quality or as attacky)

One of my friends locally is one of those guys with killer gear that doesn’t socialize about it or go on forums. He’s got a Rev D, F, G and maybe others. He plays modern-ish tech death stuff. He’s a killer rhythm player. You’re probably right though that most guys get these gear pieces to sound like someone else. I just never cared for that approach

 

[GJgo]

Where I see the Mark resemblance in the Rev C is in the extra tightness, rawness of the gain structure, and most importantly the liquid leads. That is not a normal Recto feature! Considering the first Recto was built on a Mark IV chassis, I figured it's not that far of a stretch.

Also to me, the Rev C sounds best with traditional Marshall speakers (like the MkIII), where Rectos (and MkIVs) generally sound best with V30s- the anti-Marshall speaker. Anyway, that's totally up to each guy's ears!

 

[dave74]

Where I see the Mark resemblance in the Rev C is in the extra tightness, rawness of the gain structure, and most importantly the liquid leads. That is not a normal Recto feature! Considering the first Recto was built on a Mark IV chassis, I figured it's not that far of a stretch.

Also to me, the Rev C sounds best with traditional Marshall speakers (like the MkIII), where Rectos (and MkIVs) generally sound best with V30s- the anti-Marshall speaker. Anyway, that's totally up to each guy's ears!

What do you consider traditional Marshall speakers? T75 loaded 1960, or do you mean vintage Marshall greenback loaded cabs?

 

[GJgo]

I tried the Rev C with some good older Greenbacks, G65s, T75s as well as some new Redbacks along with the V30s of course. The Greenbacks were phenomenal. The V30s were my least favorite, and I'm a V30 guy. That said I know everyone hears things differently so..

 

[iff]

Remember that a G can be made into an F quite easily. I'm going to eventually mod my 95 G (#62xx) to F specs since I'd rather have the middle ground between C and G. I like fatter lows but would like the gain to compress and saturate more without having to crank the gain knob near max.

Also you can run a Mr. Scary hot-mod in the 2nd preamp tube position iirc. That will do something close to an F mod tone.

I thought the usual mod that's out there was to rev C specs - what's the rev F mod like?

 

[dave74]

I thought the usual mod that's out there was to rev C specs - what's the rev F mod like?

I think the main difference between G and F is the gain and presence pot values. I know the gain on the F is a 1meg pot.

 

[peterc52]

Remember that a G can be made into an F quite easily. I'm going to eventually mod my 95 G (#62xx) to F specs since I'd rather have the middle ground between C and G. I like fatter lows but would like the gain to compress and saturate more without having to crank the gain knob near max.

Also you can run a Mr. Scary hot-mod in the 2nd preamp tube position iirc. That will do something close to an F mod tone.

Do you know how to mod a G to F? Also have you tried a mr scary mod in your G? I have one on the way

 

[dave74]

Do you know how to mod a G to F? Also have you tried a mr scary mod in your G? I have one on the way

I just know the gain and maybe the presence pots are swapped, and that is most of the difference right there.

The hot mod actually goes into the V3 position of the rectifier rev-G. I have not tried it myself but am very interested. It's sure not cheap.