Ceriatone Yeti or Splawn Nitro?

[AngryGoldfish]

So recently I've been finding my Soldano Hot Rod Avenger 50 to be too modern and 'glassy' sounding, and I was hoping to replace it with something more vintage and with stronger lower mids. I understand that no one will have AB'ed the Nitro and the Yeti, but any thoughts or advice would be appreciated no matter what it is.

I play doom, stoner rock, post-metal, post-rock, alternative, and most forms of psychedelic rock. I usually play guitar with the tuning quite low (A - E) and don't use high output pick-ups. I have a Matamp 2x12 cabinet at the moment that runs with the Soldano. It has Vintage 30's that I hope to change to K100's eventually.

I'm looking for massive low-end, not too bright, not too fizzy, versatile, and meaty. Any thoughts?

 

[jasonmwnf]

So recently I've been finding my Soldano Hot Rod Avenger 50 to be too modern and 'glassy' sounding, and I was hoping to replace it with something more vintage and with stronger lower mids. I understand that no one will have AB'ed the Nitro and the Yeti, but any thoughts or advice would be appreciated no matter what it is.

I play doom, stoner rock, post-metal, post-rock, alternative, and most forms of psychedelic rock. I usually play guitar with the tuning quite low (A - E) and don't use high output pick-ups. I have a Matamp 2x12 cabinet at the moment that runs with the Soldano. It has Vintage 30's that I hope to change to K100's eventually.

I'm looking for massive low-end, not too bright, not too fizzy, versatile, and meaty. Any thoughts?

Dear lord i hope some people chime in with their opinions. You basically ripped the thoughts right out of my head! I play doom, stoner rock, post-metal, etc. the same as you and am trying to find the perfect amp with basically the exact same criteria you are. The amps I've been considering are a Soldano SLO, Ceriatone Chupacabra (wondering why you were thinking about the yeti instead?) or an Orange Thunderverb 50 (and mayyyyybe a Diezel Herbert). I'm not in a position to try out ANY of those amps so the more discussion the better! I'm relying on clips/opinions only.

You playing in a band AngryGoldfish?

 

[Khoi]

what you are describing is exactly the Nitro.

 

[Nico]

Herbert

 

[RedB4Black]

We had my Nitro and my friend's Chupacabra (not a Yeti but close enough) next to each other a few weeks ago. Both are great, but if you want low end, there's no beating the Nitro with KT88s

 

[yngzaklynch]

We had my Nitro and my friend's Chupacabra (not a Yeti but close enough) next to each other a few weeks ago. Both are great, but if you want low end, there's no beating the Nitro with KT88s

Are you saying the Nitro with KT88s has more low end than the Diezel Herbert????

 

[RedB4Black]

^I meant in comparison to the Ceriatone, but yeah it is right up there with what the Herbert and Uber have for low end, but the Nitro is much more tight and focused.

 

[Axe-Man]

My Yeti doesn't have huge bottom end through my Orange 212 (v30s) compared to a modern voiced amp. It can shake the house no problems but when driven hard, it needs volume to put out a solid bottom end with high gain IMHO. It's tight as though...no flub or looseness surprisingly for a Marshall type amp. I find the bottom end great at volume but I'm not into huge bassy amps. Through a 4x12 it likely would be much better as I recently compared it to a Rockerverb 200 with 6550s through a 4x12 and that did have more bottom end. The Yeti was no wall flower though and sounded pretty darn awesome through the Orange 212.

 

[skoora]

If the Nitro is as tight as other Splawns it's going to be way too "metal" or stiff for Stoner rock and doom stuff. I don't like super loose low end like some stoner rock guys do (not a huge fuzz user) but it needs that little bit of give and sag that spreads out on the attack but you still have attack. I wouldn't consider a Splawn for that kind of stuff.

Maybe look for a used Laney AOR100 from the 80's. I love the tone The Sword gets with those on Age Of Winters. A JCM 800 2203 with gain maxed gets a great tone that has that give in the lows for heavier down-tuned stuff. Definitely not just an 80's cock rock, revival amp.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

This is what I was worried about: the Nitro would be too stiff and focused for what I wanted. The Herbert is not what I'm looking for. Although I absolutely loved the amp when I tried it last year, it wasn't what I was looking for. To begin with, I don't need all those features. Two channels, at most, is all I need, and more than one loop or six power valves is never something I feel like I'd ever use at home. It has way too much gain as well, although so does my Soldano.

Isn't the Yeti going to be similar to the JCM 2203? I always imagined the 800 to be a hot-rodded Plexi of sort, anyway, right? The Laney AOR isn't what I want. I just can't trust the quality of Laney's older, and even newer gear. I've heard too many horror stories, as they say, regarding them. I need something that isn't already very old, something that I won't have to worry about for at least 10 more years. Amps aren't like cars, and rust, granted, but they do eventually start becoming unreliable.

Regarding the JCM800 2203, are you talking about the reissue or are you referring to the originals from the 80's?

I'm not looking for that woofy Herbert/Triple Rectifier low-end. It's more bass that I'm looking for, if you know what I mean. The Model T doesn't seem to have, from the clips at least, that thumping low end unless you play it loudly, which is the way it should be in my opinion. What is also has is an emphasis on the lower mids and bass frequencies, as if the guitar was actually a bass guitar.

 

[FourT6and2]

The Yeti and Chupa are hot-rodded 2203s. Low-end is not in their vocabulary. If you want to play, de-tuned, a JCM800-based circuit is not the answer.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

I'm looking for massive low-end

Nitro will definitely give you that, even the EL34 equipped ones. Too much for me personally, there is alot of low end in that amp.

 

[Digital Jams]

I'm looking for massive low-end

Nitro will definitely give you that, even the EL34 equipped ones. Too much for me personally, there is alot of low end in that amp.

Massive low end = mix cluster fuck.

 

[RedB4Black]

Keeping the bass and resonance knobs low on the Nitro will keep the low-end under control, but there is no escaping the tight/focused nature of the amp. I always play on OD1, when OD2 is engaged, it gives it more fullness at lower levels of bass/resonance, but it compresses too much.

I suggest you get a Marshall JVM and add a mercury choke and OT.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

The Yeti and Chupa are hot-rodded 2203s. Low-end is not in their vocabulary. If you want to play, de-tuned, a JCM800-based circuit is not the answer.

I know you have experience with this, but I'm positive there are plenty of people who use an 800 type amp with a detuned guitar. I think Torche use 800s and they tune to Z. Seriously.

 

[Digital Jams]

I have never played a stock 800 that would not sound like a bag of dicks when tuned down looking for massive low end, the 800 is made to rip through a mix while a bass player held the low end.

 

[jasonmwnf]

What about the Orange Thunderverb 50 (or 200)? Those are supposed to have a nice bottom end. Down are using them with good results!

 

[Chris O]

The Yeti and Chupa are hot-rodded 2203s. Low-end is not in their vocabulary. If you want to play, de-tuned, a JCM800-based circuit is not the answer.

^^This. Not sure why you're thinking Yeti either, as that is Ceriatone's "more vintage" attempt. The Chupa is HOTTT, but not a low end shaker, at least in the 50 watt class.

 

[skoora]

I have never played a stock 800 that would not sound like a bag of dicks when tuned down looking for massive low end, the 800 is made to rip through a mix while a bass player held the low end.

I agree with this. You'll get a good solid but not "massive" low end and it will mix great with a good bass tone and sound huge. Think of all the great Death Metal bands tht tuned to C or lower in the late 80's/early 90's. They were using Marshall's and pedals. Plus if you got a reissue with the loop you could put an EQ in the loop for big bass at lower volumes. Entombed from Wolverine Blues on is pretty much 6 knob Marshall's and Boss pedals. They have a very big guitar sound and it's a little loose but still articulates well.

 

[Lublin]

I'm looking for massive low-end

Nitro will definitely give you that, even the EL34 equipped ones. Too much for me personally, there is alot of low end in that amp.

Massive low end = mix cluster fuck.

A-fuckin-men.