Clean Boost to tighten up bass and give a bit more for leads

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Everyone has their favorite flavor, mine is the Krankshaft. Soooo much more transparent than a Maxon OD808 and less expensive than boutique pedals. Metal box, true bypass at the switch.
 
what about an onboard preamp. little circuit in your guitar? like the old stratoblaster. when down medium to they add nice sparkle and slight bass boost.
 
I think my "predicament" (love that word :P ) is that I don't want an increase in bass but I also don't want all mid and treb. I've got the bad monkey to do the mid hump, i really just want to tighten my SL+ module. I modded it slightly to get that Soldano vibe so for me the mid is prominent enough. Just want it tightened. Reading more about clean boosts, i think as the gain goes up, so does the bass so not sure I want one of those. I just got home so about to try my RC in the loop instead of on the floor. On board preamp might be interesting too, i had not thought of that!
 
Kapo_Polenton":1qov3l5e said:
..Reading more about clean boosts, i think as the gain goes up, so does the bass..
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Right. ANY TIME you add gain (not gain as in distortion) the bass increases, there's no way around it. To counteract that, you need a high-pass, which is why the FB is cool because it's bass control is pre-clipping, a high-pass in other words. If you just cut the bass with a typical boost/cut control, you're affecting the mids due to the broad slope and due to the fact that the bass is already in the circuit. If you get rid of it first, problem solved.
 
Klark":3knrisih said:
Kapo_Polenton":3knrisih said:
..Reading more about clean boosts, i think as the gain goes up, so does the bass..
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Right. ANY TIME you add gain (not gain as in distortion) the bass increases, there's no way around it. To counteract that, you need a high-pass, which is why the FB is cool because it's bass control is pre-clipping, a high-pass in other words. If you just cut the bass with a typical boost/cut control, you're affecting the mids due to the broad slope and due to the fact that the bass is already in the circuit. If you get rid of it first, problem solved.
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Yeah, it's rarely a good idea to shove too much low end into a clipping stage, but sometimes it works. With boosts, not so much.

Kapo, out of curiosity, was it the sound of the SD-1 you thought was artificial, or the way it felt to play it?
 
Kapo, out of curiosity, was it the sound of the SD-1 you thought was artificial, or the way it felt to play it?
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Well, because I like to spare my hearing and play/listen into an SM57, I find that the SD-1 adds this artificial tone on the top end. That said, I was just playing without monitoring head phones and i really don't notice it as much. I think i might actually have develloped an extremely picky ear! Throw in delay and verb and a lot of it gets washed out. What i like about the SD-1 is the grit. Is there a mod that makes it more transparent? I found a link today on a two cap mod to make a bad monkey more transparent. Would be interesting to find anothe rmonkey to do this too so I could have one modded for the hump and the other flat.
 
Absolutely! Mod C4 to .022uF and the pedal becomes more transparent on the high end, but retains that signature SD-1 open feel and grit.
 
Kapo_Polenton":213eeicd said:
I like the sound of that MXR line boost from my searches soo far. Anyone have any experience with it?
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Got it. Liked it. Bought the Boost/OD because I thought it was going to be good, turns out not nearly as good as just the boost on its own. Then I got the Mk.4:23, and that's just an entirely different animal altogether... Koko, Xotic, everything - the Mk.4:23 slays...YMMV.

Just sayin',
V.
 
Absolutely! Mod C4 to .022uF and the pedal becomes more transparent on the high end, but retains that signature SD-1 open feel and grit.
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That easy eh? Worth a try..
 
haha thanks Casey but i've just realised that I need to shell out cash for a line delay/verb unit because my serial and parallel loop on my lynch box doesn't take pedals so for the time being.. i am not going to spend another dime on overdrives!
 
Kapo_Polenton":h4u6vcwt said:
haha thanks Casey but i've just realised that I need to shell out cash for a line delay/verb unit because my serial and parallel loop on my lynch box doesn't take pedals so for the time being.. i am not going to spend another dime on overdrives!
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I saw that. Check out my post in your thread, :thumbsup:
 
Klark":1g40n0vy said:
CaseyCor":1g40n0vy said:
I've got a Fulltone Fat Boost 2 I'd be willing to part with :thumbsup: PM me if interested.
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I originally had the fb2 and it's also cool, just a little grittier than the fb3. You can stay nice & clean with the fb2, just kinda gotta leave the drive below noon and the volume below 1 oclock.
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This is almost exactly how I tend to run my Fulldrive 2. The drive is actually almost off, but not quite off and the volume is around 1 o'clock. I then use the boost when necessary and adjust to taste. This is how I set it for an overdriven amp channel. If I am playing clean, I will set the pedal much differently, as it excels are many different sounds.
 
Kapo_Polenton":339y1jjg said:
I was looking at some of the fulltone stuff as well.. I notice a bunch of you guys have OCD's on your boards. How do you find those pushing Marshall style circuits? organic sounding? Hard to tell from youtube clips but they seem to fit well as boosts also.
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I highly recommend the OCD for boosting Marshall's and Marshall type amps. Particularily the V4 model, in LP mode you get a more transparent boost without a mid hump. It will tighten up the bass and extend sustain. In HP mode it adds some gain, lowend and warmth. Maybe a touch of mids as well. These pedals are very organic, smooth and dynamic.
 
Dunno if it's exactly what you are looking for but when I owned a Lynch Box I used the MXR GT OD Custom Shop pedal for what you describe. Worked a treat. I had the KH2 and Brahma modules for the dirty stuff and it sounded good. I just ran the pedal at 0 gain, volume at 10 and tone added for personal taste.
 
raz where were you 3 days ago when I needed this info! :thumbsup: good call .. I think though for now (after dropping some cash on the G Major 2), I'll just hold tight with the Green monkey. I dig it.. Any other tips you want to share about your lynchbox is welcome though. I'm still learning where to find the best tones. For the most part level at 12 and master volume doing the rest.Keeps it tight.
 
Haha sorry dude, I don't visit here often. Plenty of info over at the MTS Forums - I picked up a lot of good ideas etc there.

For me, when I tweak my sounds on the MTS, I set everything on the modules to 12 o'clock and then just tweak to taste. As tone is subjective, it's a good place to start. Then just mix in the highs and lows on the master controls and away you go!

One piece of advice nearly everyone mentions on the MTS forums and something I found out the hard way, don't unplug your Footcontroller from the amp while the power is on :( You will blow all the Midi fuses lol.

I saw in you other thread you got a G Major. When you run it, make sure you use the Kill/Dry function otherwise it sounds crap in the loops.
 
I have the Suhr ISOBoost and think it sounds great. It's basically the KoKo Boost without the mid-boost.

Chuck
 
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