Cletus

Sorry for your trouble.

Wokeness is providing resistance to real awakening, which is giving it strength. That’s pretty good! Good luck with your sale bro, contrived resistance is the worst.
 
I mean. They are Nazi Eagles. Pulled from Roman and Napoleonic imagery and repurposed by the Nazis. Which straight up sucks. Swastika pulled from Buddhism and Hinduism and used by Nazis which straight up sucks, and SS pulled from thousands of years of pagan imagery and also sucks now.

Feels bad these guitars exist, and that people are willingly putting this bullshit on guitars that didn’t come with them, but if you want to be a racist piece of shit be my guest it’s a free country.

Just don't be surprised when there are consequences for being a shithead.
 
Sorry dude, there is a difference. Nazism went to a whole other level of hate and racism, and I won't argue with any company that frowns upon these symbols to the point of banning them. They basically represent the worst of the worst and should not be taken lightly.
 
vultures":2nqejy9v said:
If you can't see why, then you are pretty ignorant.
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Krull":2nqejy9v said:
Where's the woke seven string crowd on Daemoness guitars. The medieval era was a shitty point in history. :aww:
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Yeah! If you can't ban everything then you can't ban Nazis!!!

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mnemonic":2bpunuw2 said:
Communist iconography still okay I bet.
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Yeah, I see kids wearing the symbols at shows, little do they know of the 100+ million Communism killed I think Lemmy knew. :LOL: :LOL:
 
mnemonic":1e7nxzrl said:
Communist iconography still okay I bet.
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Oh you know it is...and they killed way more than the Nazis. Both are antithetical to our system....and both are leftist....the two extreme sides of the socialist coin.
 
I mean... The eagle symbol is really the least Nazi symbol isn't it? They stole a lot of their symbols from other cultures, but the eagle was actually a part of German culture long before the Nazis and is still the German Coat of Arms today, while the swastika, the SS symbol etc were dropped. The Nazi eagle always had a swastika in its talons, which is not included in those stickers.

I'm all for no Nazi stuff, but this one kind of feels like caving to ignorance.
 
OMG a guitar with imagery on it, I just can't handle this. I am literally shaking. This changes EVERYTHING.
 
Krull":37r5jec1 said:
Fair enough. I wasn't aware Hanneman was a Nazis. Thanks for the lesson.
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I guess you are being sarcastic here. For the record, Jeff's father fought in WWII and came home with a German pistol (or something like that). Jeff got interested and started collecting Nazi memorabilia. Although Slayer got criticized for "Angel of Death", the members are in no way fascists or right extremists.

I have owned an ESP CS Hanneman signature, urban camo with the eagles. Sick guitar for sure. The version with SS-daggers is a step too far for me.

As someone pointed out already, the Nazi's (ab)used several historic symbols that are now associated with the Nazi regime. It depends on your background whether you want such a symbol on your guitar or not. I will say this, however. Even today I still cannot imagine what people have endured during WWII. The impact it had on my family and many others make me feel uncomfortable with guitars like these, including the Iron Cross guitar (Hetfield). So I decided not to have guitar like that at all anymore (one of the reasons why I sold it). I understand that context is important, but people have short memories and the common perception is just different.

As for Reverb, I do not expect them to have this kind of historical knowledge.
 
I don’t know who said it, but I’ve always liked this quote: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

I don’t agree with nazi socialism or communism for that matter. There’s ton of shit I don’t like or agree with or would ever buy, but I’d feel the same way regardless of the subject. It scares me when “artists” agree with censoring things they don’t like. Maybe he can put a PMRC sticker on there instead.
 
Krull":23ifbr37 said:
Laurens":23ifbr37 said:
Krull":23ifbr37 said:
Fair enough. I wasn't aware Hanneman was a Nazis. Thanks for the lesson.
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I guess you are being sarcastic here. For the record, Jeff's father fought in WWII and came home with a German pistol (or something like that). Jeff got interested and started collecting Nazi memorabilia. Although Slayer got criticized for "Angel of Death", the members are in no way fascists or right extremists.

I have owned an ESP CS Hanneman signature, urban camo with the eagles. Sick guitar for sure. The version with SS-daggers is a step too far for me.

As someone pointed out already, the Nazi's (ab)used several historic symbols that are now associated with the Nazi regime. It depends on your background whether you want such a symbol on your guitar or not. I will say this, however. Even today I still cannot imagine what people have endured during WWII. The impact it had on my family and many others make me feel uncomfortable with guitars like these, including the Iron Cross guitar (Hetfield). So I decided not to have guitar like that at all anymore (one of the reasons why I sold it). I understand that context is important, but people have short memories and the common perception is just different.

As for Reverb, I do not expect them to have this kind of historical knowledge.
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Thanks Wikipedia. So was Jeff's dad a Nazis then? Banning images and statues will solve all the world's problems.
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I think my post is pretty clear, but if you want to be an asshole, be my guest.
 
Haha so people are actually having a hard time separating nazi imagery from other freedom of speech/expression subjects? Amazing, well done.
 
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