Cool PRS finish I have not seen before

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I have a pretty cool PRS, I really enjoy it. My Andersons are better guitars and for 10k I'd rather custom order two of them to my specs and then have money left over.
 
I'm not a fan of the PRS stuff. That one is a beauty though but the price tag is really steep.
 
I like it (except the pink) but why does PRS get to use real ebony while Gibson has to use whatever they can scrounge up instead of the real thing on their custom lesters??
Not cool
 
If you get to know the guys at the smaller saw mills, you'll discover that people are getting ripped off for tops like that. I could get a wood blank for a top like that for under 50 bucks and the saw mill guys will think they are making a killing off me. Lol
 
Looks really cool but i bet i could get a suhr that looks just as good if not better for half the price...
 
My last PS ME:

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Got quite a few from Wild West. Just down the street from me. Good people.
 
I think PRS is currently making major profit off "perceived value." If anyone ever saw the actual markup or margin in one of these guitars they'd probably want to take to the streets with pitchforks and torches. Every company is guilty of it, just some WAY more than others.

And, like yeti and Hoff, I've never played a PRS (And I've played quite a few) that actually felt playable--there was always something wrong. I'm going to pay top-dollar for THAT? No... In this case you're paying for the name, just like with Gibson, Suhr, Anderson, etc. I'm betting their margins are anywhere from 25-70%, depending on the model.

Thoughts?
 
The question that always comes to my mind on these private stock guitars; is there really $10,000 worth of material, time and craftsmanship? Sure they're pretty guitars, but I don't really understand how they justify charging that much for a guitar. I can see spending $10k on a car, but on a guitar? :no: Granted the prices they charge are relative to what people are willing to pay. I guess if someone, namely myself, doesn't have the kind of money to afford a price tag like that it seems outlandish really. That's not a knock against the guys who can afford them, but from where I come from it just doesn't compute.
 
racerevlon":3ai607ss said:
I think PRS is currently making major profit off "perceived value." If anyone ever saw the actual markup or margin in one of these guitars they'd probably want to take to the streets with pitchforks and torches. Every company is guilty of it, just some WAY more than others.

And, like yeti and Hoff, I've never played a PRS (And I've played quite a few) that actually felt playable--there was always something wrong. I'm going to pay top-dollar for THAT? No... In this case you're paying for the name, just like with Gibson, Suhr, Anderson, etc. I'm betting their margins are anywhere from 25-70%, depending on the model.

Thoughts?
There is certainly a lot of markup on PRS' Private Stock guitars. But one thing that may not be well-known is that when you order a Private Stock, you can actually go to PRS in Maryland and hand pick every piece of wood for your guitar out of their wood library. They are there with you during this process, answering questions about how different kinds of wood might sound together, and lending their guitar building experience to help you make your choices. I'm not saying this totally justifies the price - but it definitely adds to the cost to spend this kind of time with a customer at a guitar manufacturing location.

Regarding your impression that PRS don't feel playable to you - that's the exact opposite of my experience. And actually, PRS' playability right out of the box and tight build quality are some of the reasons they shot to the moon in popularity in a relatively short time. I have owned over 100 of these guitars over the years, and although they weren't all magical, they all played and sounded great.

I once bought a PRS and it shipped so that it was arriving the day of a gig. Based on their fantastic playability from the factory, I picked up the guitar from UPS on the way to the gig, unwrapped it, tuned it, and played the gig with it. It was great.

Having said that, PRS guitars definitely feel much different than Gibsons or Fenders. And that's a good thing. Paul Reed Smith never set out to directly copy any other guitar, but to take the best of what was out there and add to it. But if Gibsons or Fenders just feel 'right' to you, then a PRS might never feel just right. And that's cool. One of the reason you find that PRS owners are often such fanbois is because they had often been searching for years for the guitar that played and felt perfect, and they found it with PRS. I know I did.

I've owned (and gigged) expensive Private Stocks, but my favorite model is the Singlecut 245. It's one of the most moderately priced USA-made PRS guitars, and it plays absolutely great. As far as fit, finish, and playability, a standard production PRS is on par with a custom shop Gibson, so to me, they are the best value out there.
 
The Dragons Breath and Vampire are beautiful finishes..steep prices. I wouldn't keep thoses in the cases. Shark Driver's is sweet!
 
racerevlon":1stkf1ut said:
I think PRS is currently making major profit off "perceived value." If anyone ever saw the actual markup or margin in one of these guitars they'd probably want to take to the streets with pitchforks and torches. Every company is guilty of it, just some WAY more than others.

And, like yeti and Hoff, I've never played a PRS (And I've played quite a few) that actually felt playable--there was always something wrong. I'm going to pay top-dollar for THAT? No... In this case you're paying for the name, just like with Gibson, Suhr, Anderson, etc. I'm betting their margins are anywhere from 25-70%, depending on the model.

Thoughts?


dooredge":1stkf1ut said:
The question that always comes to my mind on these private stock guitars; is there really $10,000 worth of material, time and craftsmanship? Sure they're pretty guitars, but I don't really understand how they justify charging that much for a guitar. I can see spending $10k on a car, but on a guitar? :no: Granted the prices they charge are relative to what people are willing to pay. I guess if someone, namely myself, doesn't have the kind of money to afford a price tag like that it seems outlandish really. That's not a knock against the guys who can afford them, but from where I come from it just doesn't compute.


it's so funny, i was thinking the same thing as both of you.
look at this carvin....having posted about it at 205am last night...and then waking up today to read your posts reflective of what i said was refreshing to me. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=125768

again though, l think if you have the money, and you want it GO FOR IT!!!!!!
there's some sweet axes in that website.....i wouldn't be ashamed of owning any, providing they fit my hands right and resonated with me the way i look for.

im debating my next guitar be a custom carvin build. i dont flip guitars, so, i'll get something that i'll keep for a long time. i think they make awesome guitars, and in the USA...can't go wrong there. im just unsure of their necks.
 
dooredge":28q2ytel said:
The question that always comes to my mind on these private stock guitars; is there really $10,000 worth of material, time and craftsmanship? Sure they're pretty guitars, but I don't really understand how they justify charging that much for a guitar. I can see spending $10k on a car, but on a guitar? :no: Granted the prices they charge are relative to what people are willing to pay. I guess if someone, namely myself, doesn't have the kind of money to afford a price tag like that it seems outlandish really. That's not a knock against the guys who can afford them, but from where I come from it just doesn't compute.

I agree 100% with this. It seems insane to me. Even if I had more money than I could spend, it wouldn't even seem necessary even then to spend $10K on a guitar like this. It's like racerevlon said, you're basically just paying for the name and all that goes with it. I own a couple of Suhrs myself and do I think they are overpriced? Sure, to an extent. But, with their prices you are able to get incredible customer service, guitar models custom built to your specs, and peace of mind knowing that they have a commitment to going the extra mile on build quality. So, it's definitely worth the extra cost to me. And, most importantly....they simply work for me like nothing else I've ever had. Not to mention, $2K - $4K pricing for most custom built Suhrs is a far cry from spending $10K on a guitar like this one. I also don't have a problem with PRS models that are in the $2K - $4K region. But, once you go beyond that, it's really beginning to get ridiculous. If you've got the money to spend, okay sure....you might go a bit beyond that. But, $10K??? Hell nah..... :no: There are just too many "more than adequate" options in the $2K - $4K price point, IMO.
 
I never paid full pop for mine, I got them used (except for a ME that had sit in a dealers private office stash for years and I got a killer deal on it) The PRS stuff I have now I've had for years and they have been as good or better than anything I've ever owned (Gibson, Anderson, Fender, Charvel, Jackson) I could never pay what they want new, but I was patient and got some amazing sounding/playing pieces for great prices because I was not in a hurry.
 
I LOVE PRS guitars. I have 14 at present. But I must be honest, that "Dragon's Breath" finish doesn't do it for me. I totally appreciate the talent it takes to do it. But the looks? Meh...
 
Brad737":11czuosd said:
I LOVE PRS guitars. I have 14 at present. But I must be honest, that "Dragon's Breath" finish doesn't do it for me. I totally appreciate the talent it takes to do it. But the looks? Meh...

keep necrobumping Brad, you're almost to 50 posts! Spam on brother!
 
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