Delay settings for vocals? (Lexicon MX200)

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hey guys,
We (my band) use a mixer and poweramp setup in our rehearsal studio. So I recently picked up a Lexicon MX200 Multieffects unit to use mainly for Reverb/Delay settings for vocals.

http://www.lexiconpro.com/ProductIndex. ... oductID=12

But for the life of me... I cant seem to get a good Delay/Reverb setting for vocals. it either seems to be too harsh, or sounds good "washed up" with too much delay.

any suggestions for delay/reverb settings that I could try for vocals that you guys can suggest?


Thanks guys
 
Set Ch 1 for the vocal hall - Try pre delay at 9 o'clock, start with decay and variation at Noon. Dial back decay to shorten the reverb time if it's too huge and the variation knob is essentially a high-cut on the reverb tail that will darken the sound of the verb. I'd give the Vocal plate a listen too. The early diffusion on the plate will probably have you dialing back the decay a lot.

Set Ch 2 for digital delay. Pre-Delay sets delay time. Decay sets feeback/repeats. Variation controls a ducker that kills the delay tail/repeats when new signal is present at the input.

I'd start with the Decay set fully anti/counter-clockwise and add repeats once you find a delay time you're happy with-move it to 9 o'clock and see what that get you. I'd keep the ducker set fully clockwise to bypass the ducker. Play with the ducker once you have the delay and repeats set.

The ideal situation would be to tap the tempo button to the tempo of each song to get a very general, in-time delay going -you can then easily choose 1/4-note, 1/2-note or what ever. Otherwise a setting of 115-120ms give you a rock-a-billy slap back FX. A setting in the 330-350ms range will give you a 1/4-note delay for a 120bpm song. Depending on the music, this could be a good set-it and forget for rehearsal range.

If you're using taking one-output from the 200 to one-channel on your mixer -use the mix controls on the 200 to control how much of each FX you have in the mix. If you're using both outputs on the 200, one for each FX, to two-separate channels on the mixer, set the mix knobs on the 200 fully clockwise to Wet and use the channels on the mixer to control the amount of FX in the mix. You can use the channel EQ to tailor the sound too -like roll of low-end to focus effect and keep them from making the mix muddy.

Hope this helps.

Delay calculator:
http://www.thewhippinpost.co.uk/tools/delay-time-calculator.htm
 
we use the same unit for our live vox
blends on both channels on 50% or so
ch 1, chorus, not too wet.
ch 2 tape echo. two repeats, big roll off.
blend on the board to taste.
cant remember the exact settings off the top of my head, but I do know it makes the vox super fat and they fill the room nicely.
 
Tnjpekar":1h5caynw said:
we use the same unit for our live vox
blends on both channels on 50% or so
ch 1, chorus, not too wet.
ch 2 tape echo. two repeats, big roll off.
blend on the board to taste.
cant remember the exact settings off the top of my head, but I do know it makes the vox super fat and they fill the room nicely.
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Maybe if you get a chance, you can write down the settings for me to write?


Thanks
 
scredly said:
Set Ch 1 for the vocal hall - Try pre delay at 9 o'clock, start with decay and variation at Noon. Dial back decay to shorten the reverb time if it's too huge and the variation knob is essentially a high-cut on the reverb tail that will darken the sound of the verb. I'd give the Vocal plate a listen too. The early diffusion on the plate will probably have you dialing back the decay a lot.

Set Ch 2 for digital delay. Pre-Delay sets delay time. Decay sets feeback/repeats. Variation controls a ducker that kills the delay tail/repeats when new signal is present at the input.

I'd start with the Decay set fully anti/counter-clockwise and add repeats once you find a delay time you're happy with-move it to 9 o'clock and see what that get you. I'd keep the ducker set fully clockwise to bypass the ducker. Play with the ducker once you have the delay and repeats set.

The ideal situation would be to tap the tempo button to the tempo of each song to get a very general, in-time delay going -you can then easily choose 1/4-note, 1/2-note or what ever. Otherwise a setting of 115-120ms give you a rock-a-billy slap back FX. A setting in the 330-350ms range will give you a 1/4-note delay for a 120bpm song. Depending on the music, this could be a good set-it and forget for rehearsal range.

If you're using taking one-output from the 200 to one-channel on your mixer -use the mix controls on the 200 to control how much of each FX you have in the mix. If you're using both outputs on the 200, one for each FX, to two-separate channels on the mixer, set the mix knobs on the 200 fully clockwise to Wet and use the channels on the mixer to control the amount of FX in the mix. You can use the channel EQ to tailor the sound too -like roll of low-end to focus effect and keep them from making the mix muddy.

Hope this helps.

Delay calculator:
http://www.thewhippinpost.co.uk/tools/delay-time-calculator.htm
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I just found this post after searching Google for this topic, as I've just bought one of these units, and I'm having the same problem.
I have to say that this is THE best answer I've ever seen anyone give for this type of question.
I've just this minute joined the group, just so I could comment.
I'm wanting to use mine just for going live through OBS on my PC and live into Facebook, I mainly sing ballads, from the likes of Elvis Presley etc, and I've been looking for that lovely sounding reverb to suit them, but not having much luck to be honest, so I was wondering if you had a starting point for the type of reverb I'm looking for, before I get too old lol, I'm 65 almost now.
Any help would be much appreciated.
I'm actually going to try the settings you've suggested to the other guy tomorrow lol.
 
Furyboy1940 said:
I was wondering if you had a starting point for the type of reverb I'm looking for
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He was already asked 14 years ago to write the settings down and still hasn't replied. He hasn't posted for 7 years and the other guy 9 years.

IOW, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Welcome to the forum and congrats on the 14-year necro-bump mate. :LOL:
 
Monkey Man said:
He was already asked 14 years ago to write the settings down and still hasn't replied. He hasn't posted for 7 years and the other guy 9 years.

IOW, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Welcome to the forum and congrats on the 14-year necro-bump mate. :LOL:
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Oh right, well I guess I'll just use his original answer as a starting point then, I've only just had the unit, but I've had one or two others years ago, but never been able to nail that sublime sounding ballad reverb.
I was spoilt once many years ago at a local Karaoke night in Mansfield UK, got up and sang Can't Help Falling In Love by Elvis, and was blown away by the sound.
The guy actually recorded me singing it and played it back a bit later in the night, it sounded lovely, so I'm trying to get something close to that.
The main issue I'm having though, is that when I listen through my studio monitors while singing live, it sounds ok, but then when I record in OBS and play it back, the effects don't sound as up front as they did through the monitors.
Yes I do turn my monitors off when recording by the way lol ?
Thanks for replying anyway ?
 
I've just realised guy's, it was the original answer that I was referring to, not the one who was asked to write settings down.
I've found some useful info elsewhere though, apparently number one setting is a good place to start for what I'm looking for, so I'll give it a go lol.
I had a play around yesterday before I found the info, without much luck again.
 
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