Despite new criticism, Trump told Walz in 2020 he was 'very happy' with his handling of George Floyd protests

[Floyd Eye]

You know "the Perfecf Drug?" Ill do that one

Do Terrible Lie.

 

[japetus]

Do Terrible Lie.

Literally my favorite

 

[JohnnyGtar]

I’ll let you in on a secret Johnny. Politicians lie. Especially in the middle of an election. The fact that this is lost on you worries me that you might do something drastic when the most popular black woman in the Democratic Party and her rich old white running mate can’t cheat enough to win.

Cheat? Dude, that's funny. Harris and Walz are gonna smoke Trump and Vance on November 5th.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Literally my favorite

His stupid bass player dicked me out of an agreed deal I had on an SVT2 non pro on TB several years ago. I think he was playing with Beck at the time though. Took me another year to find one, but when I did I found it about 20 miles away out in Washington. What a dickhead.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Cheat? Dude, that's funny. Harris and Walz are gonna smoke Trump and Vance on November 5th.

Like I said. Very committed. To the point of stupidity.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

Like I said. Very committed.

To the point of stupidity.

 

[NowYou'rePlayingWithPower]

You know "the Perfecf Drug?" Ill do that one

Of course I know that one.
He wrote it for me.

This seems like the right thread for it so I'll do a mix of a song or two, since they're kind of simple/repetitive.
Post high noon (I think that's 12:59:59pm) tomorrow or lose your participation trophy before you even get one!

 

[84superchamp]

I don’t get the controversy; almost everyone can do one thing right sometime in their life , even a VP candidate.

 

[311boogieman]

I’ll let you in on a secret Johnny. Politicians lie. Especially in the middle of an election. The fact that this is lost on you worries me that you might do something drastic when the most popular black woman in the Democratic Party and her rich old white running mate can’t cheat enough to win.

That and people change their minds too.

Trump started off as a Democrat before he got smart(er). He also donated to the Clinton campaign and went to their wedding IIRC.

Next.

 

[7704A]

Found a transcript of the phone call Trump's praise is pulled from: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/politics/wh-governors-call-protests/index.html?cid=ios_app

Also read the article... interesting read... for the wrong reasons. It provides quotes from Trump specifically praising the last few days, the days after Walz called in the National Guard. E.g.:

"I was very happy with the last couple of days, Tim," Trump continued. "You called up big numbers and the big numbers knocked them out so fast it was like bowling pins."

and

We’re strongly looking for arrests. You have to get much tougher. You’re gonna get over it. I know Gov. Walz is on the phone and we spoke and I fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days, I asked him to do that. You know, a lot of me – we have all the men and women that you need. But people aren’t calling them up.

Emphasis mine.

The article tries to play this as a gotcha:

Trump's contemporaneous approval of Walz's decision-making in the wake of George Floyd's murder undermines one of Republicans' most vocal lines of attack against the vice presidential nominee. Critics have accused Walz of stalling the mobilization of the National Guard to quell rioters who set fire to 1,500 buildings, caused some $500 million in property damage, and were linked to at least three deaths.

But then self-owns in the next paragraph by detailing how Walz did actually wait before sending in the guard after receiving city government request for the NG?

Walz, himself a 24-year veteran of the National Guard, ultimately summoned more than 7,000 guardsmen to the Twin Cities. But that decision came 18 hours after Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey initially asked the governor to activate military personnel.

and later on it also mentions that Walz took responsibility for any delay in the state's response:

Days later, however, Walz told a reporter that "if the issue was that the state should have moved faster, that is on me."

And Trump's praise wasn't unconditional either, the article says as much, and the transcript says as much. Here's a chunk of the call transcript were Trump specifically mentions that they waited to use the national guard:

TRUMP: So the best example, I alluded to it a couple of seconds ago, is Minneapolis. It was incredible what happened in the state of Minnesota. They were a laughingstock, all over the world. They took over the police department. The police were running down the street, sirens blazing, the rest of them running, it was on camera. And then they wiped out, you probably have to build a new one. I’ve never seen anything like it and the whole world was laughing. Two days, three days later, I spoke to the governor, the governor’s I think on the call and he’s an excellent guy, and all of a sudden –


And I said you gotta use the National Guard and take numbers (INAUDIBLE). They didn’t at first, then they did, and I’ll tell you that’s true, I don’t know what it was … those guys, third night, fourth night, they walked through that stuff like it was butter. They walked right through and you haven’t had any problems since and I mean they know – they’re not going to go there, they’re going to go some other place. But once you called that and you dominated, you took the worst place and you made it – they didn’t even cover it last night because there was so little action. So, you dominated, you dominated.

Later in the phone call, Trump more directly criticizes the delayed use of the guard:

TRUMP: OK, good. I think that’s a good idea. I must tell you it got so bad a few nights ago that the people wouldn’t have minded an occupying force. I wish they had an occupying force in there. But for some reason, I don’t know what it is governors don’t like calling up a lot of…the guard. We have thousands and thousands of people waiting to be called up. Is that a correct statement, general?


MILLEY: 350,000.


TRUMP: 350,000. You have 350,000 people and they call up 200. Tim used that the first night (INAUDIBLE). What happened is after that he said let’s go and I’ll tell you, this was like magic.

I didn't find the "I don't blame you" quote in the ABC article, but I did find it in this AP article: https://apnews.com/article/tim-walz-trump-audio-riots-george-floyd-3b349ec2a8611f242333b76512a82d4f. The quote is from the same phone-call discussed in the ABC article. Here it is in the context of Trump's full paragraph:

TRUMP: But the police force didn’t take it over. And I don’t blame you. I blame the mayor. I mean, I’ve never seen anything like it where the police were told to abandon the police house and it was ransacked and really destroyed…you know millions and millions of dollars are going to have to go back and fix it. I don’t know. You’ll (INAUDIBLE)

So it looks like Trump doesn't blame him for the police house being ransacked. Possibly also doesn't blame him for the police's response to a what Walz details a few blurbs up:

WALZ: But I think, again, Mr. President, I hope, you asked (INAUDIBLE) it’s going to be very critical. There are (INAUDIBLE) legitimate anger and here our problems wouldn’t be … if we cannot be (INAUDIBLE) we’ve got to have the resources to maintain (INAUDIBLE) and we’re going to have to transition back. (INAUDIBLE) overwhelming here is the transition back is the catalyst that started (inaudible) what happened with Minneapolis police department. So (INAUDIBLE) a lot of (inaudible) specific leaders and the peaceful protests and obviously (INAUDIBLE) … I think the guidance is you’ve got to get a handle on it with that force. That is absolutely (INAUDIBLE). And then the transition in the next phase is trying to get those (INAUDIBLE) for the peaceful protests and (inaudible) to do things that we have to look at of how do we get reform. And (INAUDIBLE) a tragedy that I still (INAUDIBLE) we avoided was the truck speeding down the highway with thousands of protesters … at that point in time we do not know…that was a (INAUDIBLE) … of whether it was going to be intentional. As it turned out, it was a confused and scared driver who didn’t want to leave the interstate, turned into that, saw (INAUDIBLE) pulled out of the vehicle. Some of you recall that it looked like…during Rodney King. But the truck never (INAUDIBLE) but he was (INAUDIBLE) he said that that crowd was about (INAUDIBLE) and they pulled him in which deescalated the situation and as (INAUDIBLE) said, last night was calm and (INAUDIBLE)

The wording makes it a little less clear if that's the case though, but probably?

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Anyhow, so the article takes Trump's praise of Walz calling in the national guard (eventually), spins that as Trump praising his response as a whole, tries to play that as a gotcha against criticisms of Walz waiting to call in the national guard, then proceeds to detail how Walz delayed calling in the national guard. Weird self-own. The "I don't blame you" quote isn't in the linked article (that I can find with a quick Ctrl-f search), but is in the AP article, where it's taken out of context:

Trump, in the June 1, 2020, call, described Walz as “an excellent guy” and later said: “I don’t blame you. I blame the mayor.” The president didn’t criticize the governor at the time.

Hilariously, it also claims Trump didn't criticize the governor at that time, despite that same phone call containing several instances where Trump criticizes the governor's behavior both directly and indirectly as detailed in some of the quotes I posted above. Anyhow, in context Trump is talking about who he blames for the police force behavior (the mayor, apparently) and not about the national guard stuff.

So, yeah. Weird self-owning article and some out-of-context stuff.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Found a transcript of the phone call Trump's praise is pulled from: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/politics/wh-governors-call-protests/index.html?cid=ios_app

Also read the article... interesting read... for the wrong reasons. It provides quotes from Trump specifically praising the last few days, the days after Walz called in the National Guard. E.g.:

and

Emphasis mine.

The article tries to play this as a gotcha:

But then self-owns in the next paragraph by detailing how Walz did actually wait before sending in the guard after receiving city government request for the NG?

and later on it also mentions that Walz took responsibility for any delay in the state's response:

And Trump's praise wasn't unconditional either, the article says as much, and the transcript says as much. Here's a chunk of the call transcript were Trump specifically mentions that they waited to use the national guard:

Later in the phone call, Trump more directly criticizes the delayed use of the guard:

I didn't find the "I don't blame you" quote in the ABC article, but I did find it in this AP article: https://apnews.com/article/tim-walz-trump-audio-riots-george-floyd-3b349ec2a8611f242333b76512a82d4f. The quote is from the same phone-call discussed in the ABC article. Here it is in the context of Trump's full paragraph:

So it looks like Trump doesn't blame him for the police house being ransacked. Possibly also doesn't blame him for the police's response to a what Walz details a few blurbs up:

The wording makes it a little less clear if that's the case though, but probably?

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Anyhow, so the article takes Trump's praise of Walz calling in the national guard (eventually), spins that as Trump praising his response as a whole, tries to play that as a gotcha against criticisms of Walz waiting to call in the national guard, then proceeds to detail how Walz delayed calling in the national guard. Weird self-own. The "I don't blame you" quote isn't in the linked article (that I can find with a quick Ctrl-f search), but is in the AP article, where it's taken out of context:

Hilariously, it also claims Trump didn't criticize the governor at that time, despite that same phone call containing several instances where Trump criticizes the governor's behavior both directly and indirectly as detailed in some of the quotes I posted above. Anyhow, in context Trump is talking about who he blames for the police force behavior (the mayor, apparently) and not about the national guard stuff.

So, yeah. Weird self-owning article and some out-of-context stuff.

Uh oh. Johnny gone be mad bro

 

[Geo]

Wait, I was told DT lies about everything. You libs need to make up your minds, it's not easy to follow when you keep contradicting yourselves.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

Uh oh. Johnny gone be mad bro

Not at all. I listened to the entire call before I started this thread.

 

[311boogieman]

I think it is all pretty funny.

The real question is: Who is going to protect you, your rights and your Country? Harris or Trump?